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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 18:31:54 GMT
*Edited* After storyteller sugestion (thx btw), i decided not only to include an index in the OP but also write down all the rules I've been abiding by. This project started some months ago when i had the crazy idea of trying how far one can go relying as little as possible in the luck factor of the game. Meaning i decided to play the game by using only cards any player is guaranteed to get along the way and nothing else. The rules of this project go like this: - i cannot use any gems at all. Drawing on altar, buying extra energy, mall refreshes, extra attempts on shard exploring, melding using gems and any other possible uses for gems are strictly forbidden. (Ok, if you want to be picky i did buy the alchemy levels ) - drawing cards from the altar using coupons is also off the table - 5* runes i obtain from glory will stay unused until i achieve my goals, meaning i will only use 1-4* runes, this is because 5* runesare extremly rare to obtain through glory and therefoe fall into the luck category. 4* aren't also that abundant, but i decided to use those because I might be crazy but I'm not masochist. - I cannot use cards i get from mazes or gauntlet. - basicly my pool of usable cards are the ones u can get from guild, shard exploring, gauntlet mall and explorer's map completation rewards and nothing else, the only exception is the Flame Brave we all get at the begining since everyone gets that one as well. - Also all heroes have to be obtained from shard farming and not from altar or boosters. I believe that covers all of it unless I'm forgeting something. As for the goals I expect to achieve in this project: - completing all exploere's map at least on easy difficulty (or get as close as possible ) - Reach 1st spot in my Arena - Get into a respectable position in tournament (for now somewhere inside top1000 seems a good goal) Now for the index: Page 1 - Rules of the game Page 2 - All dungeons up to 6-3 Page 3 - 6-4 up untill 7-2 Page 4 - 7-3 up to 8-5 Page 5 - 8-6 up to 8-10 Page 6 - 8-11 up to 9-11 Page 7 - 10-1 up to 10-10 Page 8 - no dungeons, just random chit chat Page 9 - 10-11 up to 11-4 Page 10 - 11-5 up to 11-8 Page 11 - 11-9 up to 11-10 Page 12 - 4th level Chambers decks Page 13 - 11-11 up to 12-11 and 5th level chambers Page 14 - 13-1 up to 13-3 Page 15 - 13-4 up to 13-5 Page 16 - 13-6 up to 13-7 Page 17 and 18 - random chit chat Page 19 - 13-8 up to 13-9 Page 20 - 13-10 and Journey's end That's it for now, I wil try my beat to keep the index updated as i go along. A big thank you to all members that read this thread. Although this project is giving the greatest fun ever playing this game it certainly helps having a few people cheering and it's also a good ego boost to receive praise every now and then. Thank you all for the support. Regards, Somar
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 18:47:23 GMT
Oh so it's like a SoaponaRope simulator then?
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Post by xenas on Jun 14, 2015 19:31:58 GMT
Option 2
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Post by grzechu✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 19:56:15 GMT
Option 2,mostly because alchemy
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Post by maxp83 on Jun 14, 2015 20:00:23 GMT
Option 2 once you've achieved your goals you can have a blast spending all you've accumulated
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Jun 14, 2015 20:15:17 GMT
Hi all, I always liked to try new stuff and so I will create a new account with the following purpose: Play the game using only cards that can be adquired by farming. Meaning i will try to get as far as possible in all game feats (dungeons, trials, tournament, etc) using only cards that can be obtained from dungeons (completation rewards), exploring, gauntlet, guild maps and seals. Nothing else. Only exception will be the flame brave and magic weaver u get at the begining since it's also obtainable by everyone. I will not use any crits drawn from the altar. The only use I will give the altar is coin draws for EXP fodder and runes (GP draws only, no gems) and that's it. Also won't be using crits from booster packs of any kind. I do have a little decision to make and i'll leave that to the forum members that want to vote here. What to do with gems and coupons? Option 1 - Use them for regular draws, booster and chests and use those crits only for melding the skills onto cards i can use. Option 2 - Go for pure farmable crits only and dont use a single coupon or gem at all. I will leave the poll open for some time and after that create my account and get things going. I will also use this thread to post progress every now and then. Basicly this is meant to be a simulation of how far an "unlucky" f2p player can go in this game. And that's it. Whish me luck. PS: I will also be needing a guild somewhere along the way, so any takers are welcome to post here. Option 2 is very similar to how I play the game. I started mid January. I have never gotten a single 5* from coupons/maze/spins/packs. My only nonfarmable meld is a fa centaur chief. I do use gems on to get to 45% on meld days and shop refreshes. At this point, I never use coupons/maze/spins/packs to see how far I can go w/o luck. I've been able to beat a bunch of thor and arma guys in tourney but it has gotten more difficult lately. My best tournament rank was 45. I clear gauntlet in 10-15 minutes now.
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 20:29:01 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 20:58:37 GMT
go for the first option , at least for the first 5* draw in altar
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Jun 14, 2015 20:59:18 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Haha entropy, I fight that deck in tourney, it's a very solid deck.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 14, 2015 21:02:38 GMT
go for the first option , at least for the first 5* draw in altar it's either all the way or none at all. No point in drawing a single 5* if I'm never gone use it.
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Jun 14, 2015 21:17:02 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Haha entropy, I fight that deck in tourney, it's a very solid deck. ^^ "it's a very solid deck" - I would say its a pain in the a** But of course in a good way, it's really well thought out and works perfectly and can be done by basically anyone. Hats off to ilovesalmon
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Post by vamp on Jun 14, 2015 21:35:47 GMT
Haha entropy, I fight that deck in tourney, it's a very solid deck. ^^ "it's a very solid deck" - I would say its a pain in the a** But of course in a good way, it's really well thought out and works perfectly and can be done by basically anyone. Hats off to ilovesalmon This is a deck I didn't expect to work at all, but I used all 5 arena attempts today and didn't beat it. I expect if I had a second anathema it would have gone down easier. Recycle on harb, HB, instakill in lbs.
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Post by Sytry [Exiled / SC] on Jun 14, 2015 23:58:17 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Slap a Chainstrike rune on your Titania. At lvl 10, it's a better Bullseye (can't be dodged). And Chainstrike runes are only tier 3. xD
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Jun 15, 2015 6:07:44 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Slap a Chainstrike rune on your Titania. At lvl 10, it's a better Bullseye (can't be dodged). And Chainstrike runes are only tier 3. xD Yes that would work, but when I met this guy there were no runes implemented yet
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 7:50:50 GMT
Option 2 once you've achieved your goals you can have a blast spending all you've accumulated not a bad idea. I had no intentions of actually spending anything but who knows, I might change my mind.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 7:51:57 GMT
Ok. The voting is closed. No gems or coupons all the way it is.
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Post by mingying on Jun 15, 2015 7:57:05 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. How many months does it take to farm all that I remembered farming 1 horned beast took me like three weeks
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Post by arabia on Jun 15, 2015 11:54:11 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Slap a Chainstrike rune on your Titania. At lvl 10, it's a better Bullseye (can't be dodged). And Chainstrike runes are only tier 3. xD Lv10 runes are very costly. Paladin is farmable, just 2 Battleblow8 Paladins with Human hero with frost armor will blow that deck away easily lol. Faced that deck once in gauntlet too, beat it with 1 BB8 Paladin and 2 Lv10 Paladin, not a single creature lost.
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Jun 15, 2015 13:18:45 GMT
You can make this team happen: Recycle Horned Beast x 2 Fatigue Horned Beast Faen Mesmer had FA All other had +Faen HP or +Faen ATK That team was nearly indestructible, with Predator level 7 hero you basically cant deal damage to the hero, the Bear also helas the creatures if all the other heals wouldn't be enough and it also brings down your own hero's rage... It wasy crazy, I thought I got him with Titania, but both my Titanias kept missing every turn, so they died in the end Had to throw 3 good teams on it to beat it in the end. Wow ! I'm impressed. To make a good all-around deck like this is very, very smart. But to much time consuming for me, I'm already too far in the mortii side. I have to bow, ilovesalmon
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Post by kakola on Jun 15, 2015 16:17:54 GMT
Get those map guides early on. Will help tremendously in early game.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 18:08:08 GMT
Get those map guides early on. Will help tremendously in early game. thought about it but no. I want to make it as though as possible. So no gems at all. Not for boosters, nor refreshes, nothing. Only farmable crits.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 19:11:01 GMT
Option 2 once you've achieved your goals you can have a blast spending all you've accumulated not a bad idea. I had no intentions of actually spending anything but who knows, I might change my mind. You have to! For science! If you have some way to record it that would be awesome too hah! I really want more information regarding draws, especially with Gems. It's just too expensive to do it for research. Even with super thorough memory scans there's no way to test it without doing something illegal which I wont be doing. The game just sends a request to the server and the server handles the -gems and the +card outputs. Without a peek into the server room there's no way to test it without tons and tons of gems.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 19:12:40 GMT
Oh! Also, you should take a picture of the deck you used for every map. That would really make a phenomenal guide for newbies that doesn't assume people have specific cards.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 15, 2015 19:22:06 GMT
Oh! Also, you should take a picture of the deck you used for every map. That would really make a phenomenal guide for newbies that doesn't assume people have specific cards. Thats the idea. But i will only start map 5 onwards. No point in doing it sooner. I was even only tempted to doing from map 7 and above but will probably do it sooner. BTW the account IGN is LillyAnne (cap L and cap A), if ayone is interested in energy sent daily just add it and i will accept everyone until send cap is reached.
Im at lv17 and on map 4-6. Once things start to get interesting and i have something to show i`ll start posting more stuff.
About the gem drawing video, i can do it, but keep in mind it will still take a while for me to reach that point.
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Post by Hitmus2✪NFS(xerks) on Jun 16, 2015 11:44:57 GMT
Option 2. Kind of immediate decision based on curiousity and own interest. Wish you luck Somar!
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 17, 2015 19:42:55 GMT
1st update - Level 25 Acomplishments so far: Dungeon: 4-8 Trials: reached lv19 a couple of times but was unable to beat lv20 so far Gauntlet: Reached LV10 with first attempt and that is were i am now until i get my cards back gems: 986 coupons: 15 Things are slow going. No gems for refreshes means i have no way of geting new heroes and the bazaar refreshes have not been friendly. The closest I am to geting a new hero is 6/40 for a Elder Mawrek. Furthermore, i have no way of geting enough essences to level the crits i have, and my deck is almost exclusivly lv5 cards. This what i've been using so far and it was what i used to achieve everything mentioned above. Mostly I've been farming shards and doing mazes so i can improve stuff before attempting to go further. My biggest obstacle was dungeon 4-6. With low level cards and a weak hero, the venom tyrant tore appart my whole deck some 5-6 times before i finally beat it. Even if i could block it with a frost rager the 3x240 poison dmg was to much for my lv5 cards. Eventually i got the right setup and was able to clear it. 4-8 has another tyrant, so i expect things to be the same there but haven't tried it yet this is it for now, i'll make a new update at lv30 unless i have something worth sharing before that.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 20, 2015 10:24:00 GMT
Update 2 - Level 30 Achievments: Dungeon: 5-6 Trials: Lv25 Gauntlet: LV14 (this is still on my first attempt, i'm yet to complete it for the 1st time) Arena: Rank 2982 gems: 1833 coupons: 27 I've unlocked my 1st thalassa (still at lv0) and i'm already on my way on farming the 2nd. Changed my hero and I'm using nightraider because i needed some more offensive power since my team can buff health a lot better now. I can also farm some more coins from guild now, so i can buy a lot more essences from the altar. I already own 6 frost ragers and 6 treant guides, so my early guild map deck his already in progress and since from now on i can start farming materials i will eventually start melding something to help in guild fights. All i'm missing is unlocking blood warlock to start effectively building my guild deck. This is the deck i used up until now with no exceptions since i dont have any other leveled cards. Also some extra crits i used to achieve wining conditions in some of the maps. That's all for now, next update at lv35 unless something interesting happens inbetween. PS: just for fun i'll leave u with this ss taken from one of my first guild map fights at level 20, bet u my guildmates are proud to have me in the team
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 24, 2015 18:34:36 GMT
Update 3 - Level 35 Achievments: Dungeon: 6-4 Trials: Lv35 Gauntlet: 2 times completed, glad i didn't got any 5* or it would be a pain not to use it. I will not post more updates on gauntlet since it's pretty pointless from now on. It took me 2 days to achieve 2nd completation. Arena: Rank 1582 gems: 3151 coupons: 46 Already got my first 2-star hero - Agni, it's far from the best one but still miles better than stormkaller or nightraider. And since most my deck is faen anyway it helps. Still farming Elder Mawrek and Defiler from bazaar when available and that will be it for 2-star heroes. My main deck still remains pretty much the same but now i have a lv10 thalassa helping things out. I used the deck posted on the last update to get up to dungeon 5-9 and then the new version with thalassa to clear map 5 and up to 6-4 for now. I'm also halfway from a 2nd thalassa and a dream guide away from geting spider queen. Can draw runes from now on, so let's see how that works out since it's the first time I'm playing a new account with runes available this soon. New update at level 40.
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Jun 25, 2015 8:32:39 GMT
Update 3 - Level 35 Achievments: Dungeon: 6-4 Trials: Lv35 Gauntlet: 2 times completed, glad i didn't got any 5* or it would be a pain not to use it. I will not post more updates on gauntlet since it's pretty pointless from now on. It took me 2 days to achieve 2nd completation. Arena: Rank 1582 gems: 3151 coupons: 46 Already got my first 2-star hero - Agni, it's far from the best one but still miles better than stormkaller or nightraider. And since most my deck is faen anyway it helps. Still farming Elder Mawrek and Defiler from bazaar when available and that will be it for 2-star heroes. My main deck still remains pretty much the same but now i have a lv10 thalassa helping things out. I used the deck posted on the last update to get up to dungeon 5-9 and then the new version with thalassa to clear map 5 and up to 6-4 for now. I'm also halfway from a 2nd thalassa and a dream guide away from geting spider queen. Can draw runes from now on, so let's see how that works out since it's the first time I'm playing a new account with runes available this soon. New update at level 40. Fire Rune on Flame Brave and Magic Weaver will help you a lot on this account!
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Post by Somar [BK] on Jun 25, 2015 8:35:58 GMT
Already done. Flame brave has a lv4 fire rune for extra 200 dmg. + a sorcery rune on hero.
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