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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Nov 6, 2015 3:49:13 GMT
I just like making fun of both camps.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Nov 6, 2015 3:53:16 GMT
We just group up with a couple guilds and each sends a few members that want to participate in GW and they go top 3 it. I think there are ways to make it at least semi worthwhile. GW could use some more competition when you guys cap out tourney. I'm sure GC and the guys that actually know what they are doing would love it. Literally hundreds of gems up for grabs
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Post by Jonathan on Nov 6, 2015 12:45:58 GMT
Well small by small you make it big.
Lets do some approx maths: 1st guild position is around 350 gems/ member + some gems in solo ranking(100 - 150 gems.. top 10 even better) = approx 500 gems + some thousands GP(around 35k gp, humor me)
So 2 times a week, 4 1/2 weeks per month should be roughly 4000+ gems and more than 150K gp just by placing top 1 in guild wars. For each member participating, of course.
What are we talking about?! GC is doing good and, congrats to them. The rest is, or should be, silence.
Small + small + small = big
I am not the naruto math specialist but doing some rough calculus on this issue, GC should focus on what are they doing. As for ranking a guild's strength for from the point of view of guild wards AND tournament AND arena ranking is just a waste of time. Each guild has her own objectives and goals.
My 2 cent.
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Post by mortivore on Nov 6, 2015 13:43:54 GMT
...just by placing top 1 in guild wars... There is also another way to look at it. 50 members playing GW 12 hours 9 times a month is 5400 hours of work. A google search gave me that a work year is 2,087 hours - to put it into perspective(blame google if this number is wrong). While a guild spending 30 min each gw get ~60% of the rewards. Just to be clear, im not against GW. But i think the GW feature is badly made. To much work for little reward. Also timezone for event gives huge advatages for US players.
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Post by drakkan on Nov 6, 2015 14:28:22 GMT
Just to be clear, im not against GW. But i think the GW feature is badly made. To much work for little reward. Also timezone for event gives huge advatages for US players. Totally agree. Especially about timezone issue .. I cannot play last 5 hours of GW .. I can still make 100k+ but with lots of effort .. but it kind of bothers me that I need to put that much effort so I can be competitive because of shorter timeframe .. Its like we play basketball .. and one team plays 5 min longer .. (as its not enough that I cannot claim 4th energy .. 45energy daily = 40% of star income)
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Post by Jonathan on Nov 6, 2015 15:13:15 GMT
...just by placing top 1 in guild wars... There is also another way to look at it. 50 members playing GW 12 hours 9 times a month is 5400 hours of work. A google search gave me that a work year is 2,087 hours - to put it into perspective(blame google if this number is wrong). While a guild spending 30 min each gw get ~60% of the rewards. Just to be clear, im not against GW. But i think the GW feature is badly made. To much work for little reward. Also timezone for event gives huge advatages for US players. It is badly made and it is a disadvantage for people with different timezone (even tho i played an all the timezones possible and saw pluses and minuses on all) But saying that you play this 12h 9 times a month this i doubt it. The Guild Wars are not for strategy unless you are a masochist is just do balance teams so you can win. This strategies don't require that much planing, Morti. You are not making a plan to become president of US. And if you can commit 5 minutes each hour, it will not be non-stop. The point is to commit to that goal. It is just a goal for some guilds, which in their opinion just because they win each time it means that for that event it makes them the best. As for the event as it is, those rewards for placing top are a plus added up to the other rewards which, from my point of view count. Being a semi f2p. And yes, we all, are entitled to an opinion. But when a thread starts with "Determining the actual strongest guild in WARS.." i guess, GC is by far the best. Only for this event. Royal are focused on decks for.. tournaments and, in general, having the best cards possible. And this also makes you the best for this event.. the tournament. And excuse me for saying this, but tournament is based on the person and not the group. I mean is good, that more than half of you are top 50 but your common goal is to pump up your decks individually(with the help of your mates, of course). And if it would have been a individual pvp event, for sure royal would be up there. But until now, only the Guild Wars is the event that guilds, with their strategies, try to finish top. And even with the donuts rewards it is a meter for determining which guild(as a group not a person) has the better strategy. I am attacking GC, everybody attacks them and win yet they still finish top. Why? I guess is strategy. So, trying to use coefficients and other indicators to say that a Guild who has some members are better than a bigger guild that finishes 1st well is wrong. This is not FIFA preparing the next Champions League number of teams according to the: how strong is the national championship, how many wins did it had the national team and bla bla bla. So let this event to the others. Let them be the best for the event. Until the team that will take serious the Guild Wars will come and take them down, GC are no1. Sorry for writing a book here.
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Post by thundergod on Nov 6, 2015 22:19:07 GMT
Not even regarding the fact that guild wars takes too much work for the amount of rewards for most people, the scoring and strategy winning for guild wars is just flawed. You get rewarded a lot more by sending out a million teams that don't get plundered as opposed to sending out strong teams that can get a lot of defenses.
For example, it is really a bad design when you can spam say 10 teams every hour for 2-2.5k points each every hour (since they never get attacked), while teams that make it to say 50k points before getting plundered get about 12.5k points but usually have to wait 1.5-2.5 hours depending on how long it takes to get the team down. Of course, over 12 hours, the constant uptime of the spam strategy will score a lot more then sending quality teams, which sounds like really bad design to me. Takes out the strategy of trying to craft strong teams that can defend a lot of attacks.
I know IGG wanted to prevent single players dominating, but not even 100k carriers get rewarded that much considering how much harder it is to get a high scoring team now(Curse decks everywhere, and the average deck level always increasing) Nowadays, it's hard for top players to get even over 50k before the hero gets cursed down or faces another player's main deck.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Nov 7, 2015 0:20:50 GMT
Being completely different doesn't necessarily make it flawed. There is still a lot of strategy that goes into it. If you keep going the safe route and take treasures that won't get plundered your entire resource pool gets whittled down over the course of the event (creatures and heroes) and you lose a lot of effectiveness.
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Post by thundergod on Nov 7, 2015 2:44:17 GMT
Being completely different doesn't necessarily make it flawed. There is still a lot of strategy that goes into it. If you keep going the safe route and take treasures that won't get plundered your entire resource pool gets whittled down over the course of the event (creatures and heroes) and you lose a lot of effectiveness. Their resource pools never get whittled down because they spam 4/3* creatures and 3/2* heroes and spamming those are more effective then sending out strong teams that will eventually get plundered.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Nov 7, 2015 3:15:29 GMT
2 and 3* heroes get whittled down too. You still have to be able to beat average player decks to get anything at all.
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Post by The Shawarma with Wings on Nov 7, 2015 3:47:42 GMT
Infinity cards and caravans will win GW, I would think.
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Post by orgoth on Nov 8, 2015 9:03:51 GMT
True the high treasure plunders come from the tank decks like my zerker deck once survived 10 attacks (9k cont) then died to a nightraider
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Post by ℜ★Trun on Nov 10, 2015 23:30:41 GMT
I dunno i just sas take the time you spend playing guuld wars and go now your neighbors lawn..use that money to buy gems you get mow rewards and less time invested
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 11, 2015 7:29:16 GMT
Looks like someone was in a good mood. /* please don't use unpolite words, even if you are best buds, someone might understand wrong*/
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Post by orgoth on Nov 11, 2015 8:18:16 GMT
I dunno i just was(omit) take the time you spend playing guild wars and go now(to) your neighbors lawn (in america they can pay you 5 dollars to mow a lawn)..use that money to buy gems you get mow (more) rewards and less time invested
I think thats what he meant
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 11, 2015 13:44:26 GMT
Thanks for editing. My apologies, I didn't mean it to be impolite in any way. it was only a friendly gesture. I guess I am still naive when it comes to posting on forums. Anyways I will try to take care next time.
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Post by ℜ★Trun on Nov 11, 2015 14:23:15 GMT
I type fast on a cell phone..bad at correcting errors my mistake
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2015 11:08:33 GMT
Guild wars is a stupid feature in the game. I was once a member of TotalChaos who used to top GW every week. I was crazy enough to be one of the highest delivery boys, spending all night awake and timing the cooldown of my creatures perfectly to bring in the most possible bounty.
At the end of a looong grind, I would end up with about 300 gems, 20k glory points and about 5k guild credits. This was great when I was a noob - around level 60-70 at the time. This long grind required redbull and eventually landed me up in hospital with severe migraines (aura).
These days, I (and the rest of my guild) send out a single team for guild wars just to get the participation reward which is 8k glory and about 400 guild credits.
Effort VS reward:
Case 1: Do guild wars: Effort Level 10 Reward: Level 3
Case 2: Don't do guild wars: Effort Level 1 (send out a team) Reward: Level 1
I choose Case 2 every time. Guild wars is not worth the effort. In my guild, we make more guild credits than we can use from clearing maps. The only difference being 300 gems twice a week vs 20-40 gems every day from tourney - as a star player I can survive without that small reward and rank in the top 100 in tournament.
Further to the above, if guild wars rewarded something like a paragon or great mystic or maybe 5000 gems to each member of the winning guild, I would definitely invest the time to do it again but as it stands, Guild Wars is complete rubbish and taxing on people's lives.
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