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Post by orgoth on Nov 15, 2015 2:59:56 GMT
Wight beats overlord in skills Overlord beats wight in talents fair?
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Post by doggystyle on Nov 15, 2015 3:08:12 GMT
Yep, thats why people with weak decks (like me) would rather have overlord than wight.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 15, 2015 5:15:43 GMT
The reason I see for Overlord being used in top 50 tournament decks is that it can turn tables when it can eat a paragon or a Revive creature. Overlord sits at full rage doing nothing while your cards do all the work, one enemy dies that is immediately eaten by overlord and the game starts to change. Paragon is the weakest card without Dodge or immunity, it can be taken down easily.
I am not top tournament player or anything but that is how I see it. Having an Overlord myself, I think he is weaker than Wight yes but a more 'useful' Hero for tournament in my opinion. But that should not mean I recommend him for a first hero from tournament, you are probably just better off with Judgement, captivator or Warlock. Don't go for Overlord, you will spend 3 months or more just trying to make a decent deck to work with him.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 15, 2015 6:30:25 GMT
Ol is a terrible heroes. I have a protection 7/deathless9/cripple 9 and I'm doing a lot better in tournament since I removed it.
I would rather use Wight, lvl 10 Dr/pred/zerker than Ol.
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Post by Jonathan on Nov 15, 2015 7:01:38 GMT
lose the cripple and try cull also. I might surprise you a little bit.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 15, 2015 8:38:04 GMT
I didnt like cull enough to keep it.
Only use I have for Ol is as a nice sticker.
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Post by thundergod on Nov 15, 2015 9:39:00 GMT
I didnt like cull enough to keep it. Only use I have for Ol is as a nice sticker. I think the Ol sticker looks a little ugly.
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Post by Jonathan on Nov 15, 2015 9:57:06 GMT
I didnt like cull enough to keep it. Only use I have for Ol is as a nice sticker. I think the Ol sticker looks a little ugly. It is the ugliest sticker in the game. Always thought that lord bones was.
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Post by deadsun on Nov 15, 2015 10:40:14 GMT
I've always felt his head looks way too tiny.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 15, 2015 17:34:44 GMT
I didnt like cull enough to keep it. Only use I have for Ol is as a nice sticker. I think the Ol sticker looks a little ugly. Yep but a sticker is a sticker gotta catch em all lol.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Nov 15, 2015 18:49:26 GMT
My Wight hammers my OL, and that said, my OL Had Protection 7/ Deathless 10 and Group Tactics, even after spending such an insane amount of glory on him to get those skills, I hand no second though about shelving him. As I said before, the only way you can make OL viable is having the right cards to build a deck for him, otherwise any lvl 5+ 4* hero beats him.
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Post by tchex on Nov 16, 2015 19:23:01 GMT
The explorers portal is great for overlord - I waited 4 months to beat the map with double kitsune/kuhimo and it was only possible because of overlord eating one of them. People might say he is like balrog but he has much better skills and health available.
Only players who say he is bad are the very top - 99% of players in the game can use him effectively
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 16, 2015 23:39:31 GMT
The explorers portal is great for overlord - I waited 4 months to beat the map with double kitsune/kuhimo and it was only possible because of overlord eating one of them. People might say he is like balrog but he has much better skills and health available. Only players who say he is bad are the very top - 99% of players in the game can use him effectively And why do you think the top players are on top? Not just because they spend money like some seem to think, but rather because they make good decisions like not using ol.
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Post by deadsun on Nov 16, 2015 23:50:15 GMT
The explorers portal is great for overlord - I waited 4 months to beat the map with double kitsune/kuhimo and it was only possible because of overlord eating one of them. People might say he is like balrog but he has much better skills and health available. Only players who say he is bad are the very top - 99% of players in the game can use him effectively And why do you think the top players are on top? Not just because they spend money like some seem to think, but rather because they make good decisions like not using ol. Yet over 1/5 of the top 50 tourney players (11 of them including your guildmate iser) are using OL. So, either he isn't bad, or being a top player doesn't mean you make good decisions. Which is it? I would postulate that yes, they are in the top 50 because they are making good decisions, and one of those good decisions is to use OL because they've realized that, while he may not be one of the best 5 star heroes by any stretch, he isn't crap tier.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 17, 2015 0:17:20 GMT
And why do you think the top players are on top? Not just because they spend money like some seem to think, but rather because they make good decisions like not using ol. Yet over 1/5 of the top 50 tourney players (11 of them including your guildmate iser) are using OL. So, either he isn't bad, or being a top player doesn't mean you make good decisions. Which is it? I would postulate that yes, they are in the top 50 because they are making good decisions, and one of those good decisions is to use OL because they've realized that, while he may not be one of the best 5 star heroes by any stretch, he isn't crap tier. have you take a little look at Riser Ol deck before commenting. Of course 99% of the players got sac cancer and other top 10 cards in the game... His ol deck would be goof with any heroes becuase the cards in are super op. Beside that, most ol in top 50 are free wins, ask any members who is high ranked enough to fight them on a regular basic. Either the deck is super op because of the cards it use, not the heroes, or its a free win. Ol is crap tier.
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Post by tchex on Nov 18, 2015 1:11:24 GMT
When you say the top players made "good decisions" instead of spending you really mean they abused massive loopholes in the game like stealing an entire guilds worth of 5 star shards after kicking everyone once the energy was maxed, then using those overpowered 5*melded decks to win tens of thousands of gems in the guild war before that was fixed....
To use a sporting analogy, telling players overlord is rubbish is like saying the Olympic bronze medalist is useless - he is still damn good and going to beat 99.9% of anyone he encounters.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 18, 2015 2:53:04 GMT
LOLOLOLOL ol an Olympic medalist.
Just go for it, get 3 ol and get top spot on tournament.
As for myself, I will take the tips top dogs give me instead of arguing with a regular casual player. Do as you want.
Top dogs are all HaXor!
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Post by deadsun on Nov 18, 2015 5:17:10 GMT
LOLOLOLOL ol an Olympic medalist. Just go for it, get 3 ol and get top spot on tournament. As for myself, I will take the tips top dogs give me instead of arguing with a regular casual player. Do as you want. Top dogs are all HaXor! So... you just said you are arguing what people told you and not from actual experience. You might want to look up the appeal to authority fallacy.
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Post by ℳarty on Nov 18, 2015 5:58:23 GMT
If you take a bit time to read, I already stated I have a fully skilled ol my self and it suck.
So my personal experience + the experience of some of the best Dh players is more than enough to make up my mind about Ol.
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Post by orgoth on Nov 18, 2015 9:55:00 GMT
Overlord for the isnt bad, any 5* creature is an improvement in game but if you want to go to top tournament decks the only way overlord can use his skill is a lucky disposal, or instakill, or a paragorn (which could very well be cloned).
The main disadvantages for OL are... his faction talent (the best one ussually) isnt going to help against paragorn a similar cheaper hero balrog is available, and a better version armageddon is also available. third mortiis main advantage is disposal rebirth,revive spam decks/rainbow decks and at end game play (by the time sac8 garboid, im9 sentry angel is technically useless) every 5* hero can do rainbow decks.
it is not that overlord is bad, outclassed by the other options would probably be a better word
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Post by tchex on Nov 18, 2015 13:01:36 GMT
I think that is quite a good way to sum up, he is competitive until you hit the mass immunity/revive.
Until the mines he was one of the only 5 stars who was easily farmable- that's a pretty major criteria for me when it comes to cards, I don't like to rely on random draws for rare stuff.
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