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Post by Eladion on Mar 8, 2016 20:01:02 GMT
Yes BB8 Michael is needed. Paw master lvl7 Placement: Michael first (obviously), rest doesnt matter. But AP need to kill the immune creature. Runes: Need to add HP runes to all creatures except michael, as you want Pawmaster to target him as much as possible I bet that bloodrage Michael with a high br rune will do the trick. A level8 br rune grants 32% to do double attack. The skill itself adds 160 damage every turn. It also has an innate health reduction, so Paw will likely target him. The only concern is keeping him alive until you land all those oracles.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 8, 2016 21:11:35 GMT
I'd be curious if anyone figures out exactly how Paw's skill works. There's a ton of potential there if you can avoid raising max hp but I can never get it to work.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 9, 2016 0:05:59 GMT
Why do u need to complete this level 5?.. The rewards is pathetic... Completing level 4 gets u 4 maps versus level 5 5 maps... U dun lose that.much.... I rather spend my time and resources to challenge protean grimoire 5... Still some way to go... You do have a good point asgarth. Personally, if the is an easier autokill deck for the 4* challenge, I would be into that as a good alternative while building the 5*. But FWIW, if the deck needs to be the same basically and long play too, then I'd just rather focus on getting good enough for the five star. Lastly bro, its not about the rune. The skill upgrade system is going to be a craz y game changer IMO. Every skill card matters for the f2p crowd. so far all other grimoire I autoed...even for 4* protean..working on 5* protean... This I dun want to waste so much time to get one extra map tries just ..I hate to manual place deck because it is just damn long to execute...the guild map post wight is already a pain for some maps like those retreat maps where u really need to manually place cards....
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Post by scatterbrain on Mar 9, 2016 13:11:55 GMT
Is there an alternative for those of us who can't farm Michael or don't have Angel Prime (or pawmaster either for that matter. ) Is it worth even attempting it?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Mar 9, 2016 13:53:25 GMT
Is there an alternative for those of us who can't farm Michael or don't have Angel Prime (or pawmaster either for that matter. ) Is it worth even attempting it? a Level 4 would be obtainable through massive magic nuke.
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Post by dhinstructables on Mar 9, 2016 17:16:17 GMT
This last stuff did give me a thought. What deck builds can beat the 4* challenge? Are any of them easy builds on the cheap? I use Judgment with Atom Flare Seraphs and 1 Atom flare Ash beast with Taurus. This sounds like a good deck to use, but I don't think it fits the "cheap" or "easy" descriptions
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I use Judgment with Atom Flare Seraphs and 1 Atom flare Ash beast with Taurus. This sounds like a good deck to use, but I don't think it fits the "cheap" or "easy" descriptions The Taurus is there to aid the Seraphs who can do the job on their own with War Hungry. Their ATK is very high by the time it kicks in. The only thing I haven't figured out is killing the frost armor card without Taurus using this no Drone strategy. An Atom Flare hell knight can take care of those if you have a BB rune which I don't have. To summarise: Condition: Auto 4 star on the cheap Hero: Judgment - War Hungry Creatures; 4 Atom Flare Seraphs 1 Atom Flare Hell Knight with BB rune Put Hell Knight under the Frost Armor card and auto. They should all do their jobs when War Hungry kicks in. The above is a concept since I use Taurus, but I think this is be a good baseline to work with. Maybe you all can think of a better option than Hell Knight. I suggest him for Unbound + a way to get through the frost armor. Edit: If you use Warlock you can use Atom flare Michael / Paladin instead of Hell Knight, provided you can keep your cards alive through the magic every round
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 10, 2016 19:26:14 GMT
This sounds like a good deck to use, but I don't think it fits the "cheap" or "easy" descriptions The Taurus is there to aid the Seraphs who can do the job on their own with War Hungry. Their ATK is very high by the time it kicks in. The only thing I haven't figured out is killing the frost armor card without Taurus using this no Drone strategy. An Atom Flare hell knight can take care of those if you have a BB rune which I don't have. To summarise: Condition: Auto 4 star on the cheap Hero: Judgment - War Hungry Creatures; 4 Atom Flare Seraphs 1 Atom Flare Hell Knight with BB rune Put Hell Knight under the Frost Armor card and auto. They should all do their jobs when War Hungry kicks in. The above is a concept since I use Taurus, but I think this is be a good baseline to work with. Maybe you all can think of a better option than Hell Knight. I suggest him for Unbound + a way to get through the frost armor. Edit: If you use Warlock you can use Atom flare Michael / Paladin instead of Hell Knight, provided you can keep your cards alive through the magic every round The seraphs are bloody GENIUS bud! No one wants em, everyone has so many from their guild adventures. Its pretty great for sure.
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Post by Gallows Dodger on Mar 11, 2016 5:54:13 GMT
The Taurus is there to aid the Seraphs who can do the job on their own with War Hungry. Their ATK is very high by the time it kicks in. The only thing I haven't figured out is killing the frost armor card without Taurus using this no Drone strategy. An Atom Flare hell knight can take care of those if you have a BB rune which I don't have. To summarise: Condition: Auto 4 star on the cheap Hero: Judgment - War Hungry Creatures; 4 Atom Flare Seraphs 1 Atom Flare Hell Knight with BB rune Put Hell Knight under the Frost Armor card and auto. They should all do their jobs when War Hungry kicks in. The above is a concept since I use Taurus, but I think this is be a good baseline to work with. Maybe you all can think of a better option than Hell Knight. I suggest him for Unbound + a way to get through the frost armor. Edit: If you use Warlock you can use Atom flare Michael / Paladin instead of Hell Knight, provided you can keep your cards alive through the magic every round The seraphs are bloody GENIUS bud! No one wants em, everyone has so many from their guild adventures. Its pretty great for sure. Okay, but you're relying on a Hell Knight's BB rune activating during the effect of War Hungry, that's a very small window even with a maxed rune.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 10:51:51 GMT
The seraphs are bloody GENIUS bud! No one wants em, everyone has so many from their guild adventures. Its pretty great for sure. Okay, but you're relying on a Hell Knight's BB rune activating during the effect of War Hungry, that's a very small window even with a maxed rune. I agree. That's why I said there may be a better option than Hell Knight. I can only think of Atom Flare Michael or Paladin when using Warlock since he will remove the lockdown.
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Post by tchex on Mar 11, 2016 11:06:31 GMT
The only way I can realistically see this is using a deck full of Michael (farmable from map 14) with a 5 star hero using high level attack boost, war hunger and berserk - he gets a 3x damage multiplier this way so if you have a good attack you will wipe the first five cards out then hopefully not get hurt too badly on their round as well as not being locked down (might need to meld the cards with immunity).
Guaranteed to kill everything, only needs about 3-4 months of farming for materials, and beating some insanely difficult maps to get access to the shards at all
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 11, 2016 16:53:40 GMT
The only way I can realistically see this is using a deck full of Michael (farmable from map 14) with a 5 star hero using high level attack boost, war hunger and berserk - he gets a 3x damage multiplier this way so if you have a good attack you will wipe the first five cards out then hopefully not get hurt too badly on their round as well as not being locked down (might need to meld the cards with immunity). Guaranteed to kill everything, only needs about 3-4 months of farming for materials, and beating some insanely difficult maps to get access to the shards at all Not that this is duplicatable but a Leo in the mix and war hungry could tip the scales reasonably well. 4* has lower life, and a lv10 Leo does 5k raw with no Buffs, add a war hungry to make it around 20k, so if you get a draw with no FA on the left, he adds about 125% to the other Michaels. Actually, terror dragon would do as well as Michael against the non FA cards as well.
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Post by icezaius on Mar 13, 2016 16:50:31 GMT
Has anyone tried this with a 5* hero using berserk and war hungry? Seems like you could get the attack up there pretty easily with the right creatures
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Post by Yuna on Mar 17, 2016 16:12:43 GMT
OK, so this is what I have that's been mentioned insofar, none of them melded: * Lvl 2 Paw Master * 1 Taurus * 2 Scorpios (no one's mentioned them, but will these be useful?) * 2 Angel Primes * 1 Mythril Drone * Healers coming out of my Wazoo (no Oracles, though).
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 17, 2016 23:59:35 GMT
OK, so this is what I have that's been mentioned insofar, none of them melded: * Lvl 2 Paw Master * 1 Taurus * 2 Scorpios (no one's mentioned them, but will these be useful?) * 2 Angel Primes * 1 Mythril Drone * Healers coming out of my Wazoo (no Oracles, though). Do I stand a chance or will I need to do a whole lot of melding? I also have a Lvl 10 Thor. mind blown away...u have a level 10 Thor?
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No wait, that's not my Level 10 Hero. My Thor's Level 5. Sorry, misremembered.
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Post by vagou on Mar 22, 2016 5:04:01 GMT
Why would AP be better than Mikael btw?
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 22, 2016 6:44:13 GMT
You use both. AP instapwns the morti that is invincible to attacks so Michael can kill the rest.
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Titania's chainstrike is working. Hits 2 creatures same race. Maybe usefull for 4* grimoire deck.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 23, 2016 15:07:50 GMT
This last stuff did give me a thought. What deck builds can beat the 4* challenge? Are any of them easy builds on the cheap? I use Judgment with Atom Flare Seraphs and 1 Atom flare Ash beast with Taurus. What about atom flare pit dragon? Would that work for this?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 19:43:25 GMT
I use Judgment with Atom Flare Seraphs and 1 Atom flare Ash beast with Taurus. What about atom flare pit dragon? Would that work for this? For sure atom flare pit dragon will be great... just seems like a waste of pit dragons though.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 23, 2016 20:18:22 GMT
What about atom flare pit dragon? Would that work for this? For sure atom flare pit dragon will be great... just seems like a waste of pit dragons though. Heluvalot easier than Taurus. Honestly I want to nail down all four grimoires, so I can do my start gems on grimoire to get 10 draws a day. The skill upgrade system is a game changer. People may not see it, but its there. A guildmate of mine bought those Omni's on The promo last week, and now has a temptress with higher skills than HB. My temptress now has dodge 8. Its unbalanced for sure, but that's the new meta. Might as well stay ahead if the crowd this time.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 24, 2016 6:26:56 GMT
For sure atom flare pit dragon will be great... just seems like a waste of pit dragons though. Heluvalot easier than Taurus. Honestly I want to nail down all four grimoires, so I can do my start gems on grimoire to get 10 draws a day. The skill upgrade system is a game changer. People may not see it, but its there. A guildmate of mine bought those Omni's on The promo last week, and now has a temptress with higher skills than HB. My temptress now has dodge 8. Its unbalanced for sure, but that's the new meta. Might as well stay ahead if the crowd this time. skill game changer are not available... Like immunity..sac..and some more which I cannot think of now... Among the available..the better ones are dodge..Battleblow... Mass heal..gas cloud maybe..
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Mar 24, 2016 6:46:55 GMT
For sure atom flare pit dragon will be great... just seems like a waste of pit dragons though. Heluvalot easier than Taurus. Honestly I want to nail down all four grimoires, so I can do my start gems on grimoire to get 10 draws a day. The skill upgrade system is a game changer. People may not see it, but its there. A guildmate of mine bought those Omni's on The promo last week, and now has a temptress with higher skills than HB. My temptress now has dodge 8. Its unbalanced for sure, but that's the new meta. Might as well stay ahead if the crowd this time. I have started buying grimoire refresh, I stopped doing gem mines. Now I have 2x blood lust 9 swordmasters for guild maps, bloodlust 5 BB8 Techno Chief for the same. Dodge 8+ mass heal 6 recycle HB, Gas cloud 9 Anathema, Life sap 6 (from1) demonic templar , life sap 5(from1) mimir tree and a few more.
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Post by Ominous on Mar 24, 2016 11:29:08 GMT
What about hero with warlust/battlecry - just wait till hero health down to 50%/20% then let rip with BB/Bullseye creatures? (similar to map 14 end maps).
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 24, 2016 16:03:04 GMT
Heluvalot easier than Taurus. Honestly I want to nail down all four grimoires, so I can do my start gems on grimoire to get 10 draws a day. The skill upgrade system is a game changer. People may not see it, but its there. A guildmate of mine bought those Omni's on The promo last week, and now has a temptress with higher skills than HB. My temptress now has dodge 8. Its unbalanced for sure, but that's the new meta. Might as well stay ahead if the crowd this time. skill game changer are not available... Like immunity..sac..and some more which I cannot think of now... Among the available..the better ones are dodge..Battleblow... Mass heal..gas cloud maybe.. I understand what you mean when you say that Asgarth, but you see, the game isn't entirely played on those four skills. And also they're not gonna give imm/sac/FA away that easily. But I really mean the less obvious skills.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 24, 2016 16:12:52 GMT
What about hero with warlust/battlecry - just wait till hero health down to 50%/20% then let rip with BB/Bullseye creatures? (similar to map 14 end maps). AP and four Michaels would be it, but you need more than 32,000 atk. At 1000 base, with both talents at 10, the multi factor hits it for Michaels, but not AP, AND it also hinges on everyone activating the 75% first one. RNG says not likely
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 2, 2016 18:02:10 GMT
Time to revive this topic.
Who can defeat sorceryV grimoire consistently?
Please post your working concept here in this thread.
I haven't finished my atom flare pit dragon yet to play test the suggested method earlier. But will post when I do. A lucky mekd would have saved me weeks and weeks of waiting that's for sure
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2016 18:38:01 GMT
My Berserker is now level 9. I'm test out of deck consisting of three Warlust Anathemas backed up by a bunched of Frost Armor Oracles and a Drone the next time this Grimoire rolls around (should be tomorrow or the day after). My memory is fuzzy, but I might need an Angel Prime also to take down the thing that's immune to physical damage. Or possibly a Taurus.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 3, 2016 16:51:31 GMT
My Berserker is now level 9. I'm test out of deck consisting of three Warlust Anathemas backed up by a bunched of Frost Armor Oracles and a Drone the next time this Grimoire rolls around (should be tomorrow or the day after). My memory is fuzzy, but I might need an Angel Prime also to take down the thing that's immune to physical damage. Or possibly a Taurus. Angel prime works, Taurus works too, but may not get big enough without the extra magic damage
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