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Post by saitama on Mar 10, 2016 19:11:06 GMT
I've found the easiest 4 and 5 star Grimoire to beat is the survival one where you get the protean rune shards. Having Judgement with a Hero Vigor V rune at level 5+ is the best and then a bunch of FA oracles. However, since I do not have those this is what I use: lvl 84 Royal Guard lvl 4 blessing, Hero Vigor V (hero has 70k hp) 2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager Mythril Drone Hippolyta anything else that has blessing on it.
What I started doing was instead of laying down an entire line of cards I would just play one card (which will survive for 2 rounds) and let the hero take all the hits. When that card is destroyed, I play one card again and repeat. Once blessing is ready I play 3 cards so they can survive at least 3 rounds. By doing this I am able to easily survive 10 rounds of combat with more than 20k health left on hero and about 4 cards left. I make sure to space out the cards with bless on them so that they aren't all destroyed in the first few rounds.
When I go for the 5* shards it gets a lot harder. This time instead of 3 cards I only play 2, one of them being able to heal the hero. I've also swapped out Royal Guard for Predator, Berserker, or Dragon Rider since they take damage for the hero as well. The best of the 3 is Berserker because of the 3 boars, but if you have a Predator or Dragon Rider who can summon at level 5 then use him instead. Hope this helps!
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Mar 10, 2016 22:09:34 GMT
Thanks for this post mate. Since i also dont have 5* hero i find this very useful.But have to work a little more to prepare my deck for that,still missing some crucial staff but im close to get it done. Again nice post.Cheers!
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with "FA Frost Rager" you mean Bless Frost Rager right? Thank you very much by the way
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 11, 2016 2:54:20 GMT
I've found the easiest 4 and 5 star Grimoire to beat is the survival one where you get the protean rune shards. Having Judgement with a Hero Vigor V rune at level 5+ is the best and then a bunch of FA oracles. However, since I do not have those this is what I use: lvl 84 Royal Guard lvl 4 blessing, Hero Vigor V (hero has 70k hp) 2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager Mythril Drone Hippolyta anything else that has blessing on it. What I started doing was instead of laying down an entire line of cards I would just play one card (which will survive for 2 rounds) and let the hero take all the hits. When that card is destroyed, I play one card again and repeat. Once blessing is ready I play 3 cards so they can survive at least 3 rounds. By doing this I am able to easily survive 10 rounds of combat with more than 20k health left on hero and about 4 cards left. I make sure to space out the cards with bless on them so that they aren't all destroyed in the first few rounds. When I go for the 5* shards it gets a lot harder. This time instead of 3 cards I only play 2, one of them being able to heal the hero. I've also swapped out Royal Guard for Predator, Berserker, or Dragon Rider since they take damage for the hero as well. The best of the 3 is Berserker because of the 3 boars, but if you have a Predator or Dragon Rider who can summon at level 5 then use him instead. Hope this helps! So you've beaten 5* With this setup? The math isn't making a lot of sense to me bud. They don't do blast, since you don't hurt the hero, but the group of ten do 15,000 hero damage per turn. They have full board strength by attack turn ten, so you get five full turns of this onslaught, Or 75,000 damage. The leadup ten turns(dropping cards per turn)does An additional 82,500. This is ONLY the soul eater10 damage. Now we add the ten minus two cards getting a direct attack on the hero, one of whom is likely to be the hero hunter one. That's an additional 9500 damage for the five full strength attack turns, or 47,500 damage. The leadup ten turns is approx. 25,000-30,000. Making for a grand total hero damage of 225,000-230,000 hero damage when we factor in two cards on the board the whole battle. Assuming those two cards you use are bless creatures, then we have 15 attack turns of 2000 hero healing, or 24,000 heal. This brings the hero damage down to only 200,000-205,000 hero damage. Am I missing something in your deck build? Could you, maybe, go a little deeper detail into your 5* deck build please?
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Post by kswong on Mar 11, 2016 3:38:30 GMT
Great Tactics for Grimoire lv4.
Definitely not working in lv5. Tanisomsford is right about the hero dmg.
Did the math myself. A combination of 8 oracles/dragonlords can reduce total net hero dmg to around 75k, assumed: -not getting instakilled -drawing drone early -blocking hero hunter guy early (bugged, dealing 6250dmg unblocked)
So.. just not feasible for your simple plan on lv5
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Post by rbwabd on Mar 11, 2016 10:56:05 GMT
I've found the easiest 4 and 5 star Grimoire to beat is the survival one where you get the protean rune shards. Having Judgement with a Hero Vigor V rune at level 5+ is the best and then a bunch of FA oracles. However, since I do not have those this is what I use: lvl 84 Royal Guard lvl 4 blessing, Hero Vigor V (hero has 70k hp) 2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager Mythril Drone Hippolyta anything else that has blessing on it. What I started doing was instead of laying down an entire line of cards I would just play one card (which will survive for 2 rounds) and let the hero take all the hits. When that card is destroyed, I play one card again and repeat. Once blessing is ready I play 3 cards so they can survive at least 3 rounds. By doing this I am able to easily survive 10 rounds of combat with more than 20k health left on hero and about 4 cards left. I make sure to space out the cards with bless on them so that they aren't all destroyed in the first few rounds. When I go for the 5* shards it gets a lot harder. This time instead of 3 cards I only play 2, one of them being able to heal the hero. I've also swapped out Royal Guard for Predator, Berserker, or Dragon Rider since they take damage for the hero as well. The best of the 3 is Berserker because of the 3 boars, but if you have a Predator or Dragon Rider who can summon at level 5 then use him instead. Hope this helps! support other posters who think you actually haven't beaten the 5 star version with your lineup. Btw the easiest grimoire to beat are the other two older ones - just check in this thread for explanation on how to use zora and defiler...
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Post by Yuna on Mar 13, 2016 0:22:02 GMT
I've found the easiest 4 and 5 star Grimoire to beat is the survival one where you get the protean rune shards. Having Judgement with a Hero Vigor V rune at level 5+ is the best and then a bunch of FA oracles. However, since I do not have those this is what I use: lvl 84 Royal Guard lvl 4 blessing, Hero Vigor V (hero has 70k hp) 2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager Mythril Drone Hippolyta anything else that has blessing on it. What I started doing was instead of laying down an entire line of cards I would just play one card (which will survive for 2 rounds) and let the hero take all the hits. When that card is destroyed, I play one card again and repeat. Once blessing is ready I play 3 cards so they can survive at least 3 rounds. By doing this I am able to easily survive 10 rounds of combat with more than 20k health left on hero and about 4 cards left. I make sure to space out the cards with bless on them so that they aren't all destroyed in the first few rounds. When I go for the 5* shards it gets a lot harder. This time instead of 3 cards I only play 2, one of them being able to heal the hero. I've also swapped out Royal Guard for Predator, Berserker, or Dragon Rider since they take damage for the hero as well. The best of the 3 is Berserker because of the 3 boars, but if you have a Predator or Dragon Rider who can summon at level 5 then use him instead. Hope this helps! support other posters who think you actually haven't beaten the 5 star version with your lineup. Btw the easiest grimoire to beat are the other two older ones - just check in this thread for explanation on how to use zora and defiler... Which ones are the two older ones? Also, did you mean to post a link, because I can't find one in your post?
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Post by Gunnerkiller [βκ] on Mar 13, 2016 0:27:14 GMT
support other posters who think you actually haven't beaten the 5 star version with your lineup. Btw the easiest grimoire to beat are the other two older ones - just check in this thread for explanation on how to use zora and defiler... Which ones are the two older ones? Also, did you mean to post a link, because I can't find one in your post? He probably means the Kill the Creatures and Kill the Hero challenges. There are threads for them.
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Post by saitama on Mar 13, 2016 5:43:21 GMT
2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager - Actually meant Bless Frost Rager, not FA Mythril Drone Hippolyta
Other cards I've swapped are FA Devotee (have 2 of them), Bless Swordmaster, Bless Colossus, and bless Horned Beast. I've gotten it to work for me twice. I've lost several times but I have beaten it with this lineup. The key was getting Mythril out early (1st or 2nd turn)and waiting until it's nearly dead before adding more. I used Berserker as hero so I was able to use the Boars in place of a card at times in order to prolong the fight. As I noted it's a lot harder to do the 5 star with this tactic but it is doable.
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Post by corvin on Mar 13, 2016 6:38:32 GMT
2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager - Actually meant Bless Frost Rager, not FA Mythril Drone Hippolyta Other cards I've swapped are FA Devotee (have 2 of them), Bless Swordmaster, Bless Colossus, and bless Horned Beast. I've gotten it to work for me twice. I've lost several times but I have beaten it with this lineup. The key was getting Mythril out early (1st or 2nd turn)and waiting until it's nearly dead before adding more. I used Berserker as hero so I was able to use the Boars in place of a card at times in order to prolong the fight. As I noted it's a lot harder to do the 5 star with this tactic but it is doable. FA Devotee?? Hmm...
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Post by thundergod on Mar 14, 2016 4:30:46 GMT
2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager - Actually meant Bless Frost Rager, not FA Mythril Drone Hippolyta Other cards I've swapped are FA Devotee (have 2 of them), Bless Swordmaster, Bless Colossus, and bless Horned Beast. I've gotten it to work for me twice. I've lost several times but I have beaten it with this lineup. The key was getting Mythril out early (1st or 2nd turn)and waiting until it's nearly dead before adding more. I used Berserker as hero so I was able to use the Boars in place of a card at times in order to prolong the fight. As I noted it's a lot harder to do the 5 star with this tactic but it is doable. I could be wrong, but this seems extremely unlikely to beat the 5* Protean Grimoire. To start off with, I'm going to guess that you don't have high leveled Vitality runes on all of your cards, so it is already low health for the cards to begin with. I am not sure how your cards would stay alive because you have little protection vs Rip/Instakill and you don't have enough heals to keep your cards alive especially if you are using Berserker. Drone won't keep all those cards alive even if it happens to draw first because your cards are still getting hammered by poison, picking off, bullseye, and chainstrike. I've been beating it for a while and it is still a pain to keep your cards alive, especially in the beginning.
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Post by corvin on Mar 14, 2016 8:32:10 GMT
Protean 4* can be beaten by a royal guard hero and a bunch of nonmelded oracles. Without drone. Did test today. You must have hero vigor rune 5* lvl 5-6 and bless runes on oracles. I had lvl 7. Hero casts "blessing" every turn and keeps oracles alive.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Mar 14, 2016 11:33:00 GMT
Protean 4* can be beaten by a royal guard hero and a bunch of nonmelded oracles. Without drone. Did test today. You must have hero vigor rune 5* lvl 5-6 and bless runes on oracles. I had lvl 7. Hero casts "blessing" every turn and keeps oracles alive. Royal guard protects the oracles from chainstrike?
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Post by corvin on Mar 14, 2016 12:31:22 GMT
Protean 4* can be beaten by a royal guard hero and a bunch of nonmelded oracles. Without drone. Did test today. You must have hero vigor rune 5* lvl 5-6 and bless runes on oracles. I had lvl 7. Hero casts "blessing" every turn and keeps oracles alive. Royal guard protects the oracles from chainstrike? Yes, I think so. But I didn't try this. I had fa grand mage in front of chainstrike creature. Next time I will try to use more compact and simple deck with oracles only.
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Post by aketto on Mar 14, 2016 18:28:34 GMT
I tried this today and it worked for Protean 4*, but the hero dies when I try the 5*. The other strange thing I noticed was that the Drone didn't block the magic DMG :/ My setup: 2 Oracles(I7 and FA3), Frost ranger(bless 10), 4 HB(doesn't matter the meld), Naga Mistress(I9), Mythril drone, Sword master / Hero - Royal guard - Blessing 6, Human life 1, Ice shell 1, Dusk shield 1. On all the creatures there are Vitality 5* and 4* runes, Protean 4* runes, upgraded to lvl 6/7. Hero runes: Hero vigor V lvl 6, Faen Vigor 5* lvl 6, All Vigor 4* lvl 8, Heal Amplify 4* lvl 8. With that setup and the strategy saitama gave 4* Protean is easy, but 5* doesn't work.
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Post by scatterbrain on Mar 14, 2016 21:42:48 GMT
Can anyone tell me which is the chainstrike creature, please? I can't see chainstrike mentioned in any of the creatures' descriptions.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Mar 15, 2016 0:37:08 GMT
Can anyone tell me which is the chainstrike creature, please? I can't see chainstrike mentioned in any of the creatures' descriptions. Scatterbrain, it's the 4th skill on one of the Fae's. She has Tempest as her 1st skill.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Mar 15, 2016 0:42:26 GMT
I did today's Grimoire on Level 4, which says you win if you survive 10 rounds of enemy attack. Well, I went to Round 12 and still had hero HP and cards, so I put it on auto and it said that I lost. How is that possible? Does surviving for 10 rounds not mean that if you get to round 11, you win?
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Mar 15, 2016 0:53:48 GMT
Ok, 2nd time through I made it to Round 16 (still on Level 4), and I still lost. What am I missing here? It's making me feel really dumb .
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Post by thundergod on Mar 15, 2016 1:39:15 GMT
Ok, 2nd time through I made it to Round 16 (still on Level 4), and I still lost. What am I missing here? It's making me feel really dumb . They word it weird. 10 rounds of enemy attack means round 20-22 since the enemy attacks every other turn.
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Post by scatterbrain on Mar 15, 2016 8:43:15 GMT
Can anyone tell me which is the chainstrike creature, please? I can't see chainstrike mentioned in any of the creatures' descriptions. Scatterbrain, it's the 4th skill on one of the Fae's. She has Tempest as her 1st skill. Thanks, GG! How are you doing?
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Mar 15, 2016 18:13:39 GMT
Ok, 2nd time through I made it to Round 16 (still on Level 4), and I still lost. What am I missing here? It's making me feel really dumb . They word it weird. 10 rounds of enemy attack means round 20-22 since the enemy attacks every other turn. Man, I know IGG is known for their poor descriptors, but this one really takes the cake. So I guess the key word here is "enemy" attack rounds. Yes, it makes sense, but the player shouldn't have to twist their brain into a pretzel just to figure stuff like this out. Urghhhh!!!! Thanks for your help, thundergod.
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Post by jckson992 on Mar 16, 2016 1:58:50 GMT
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Mar 31, 2016 5:15:04 GMT
I have not been able to beat this Grimoire on Level 4 or 5, as I don't have a Judgement and my Royal Guards are not strong enough to stay alive for the required amount of rounds. I also don't have a ton of Oracles to help keep them blessed.
However, for all those of you despairing about not being able to win Levels 4 & 5, but still wanting to get some rune shards and map draws from this Grimoire, try Level 3. Beating it still gave me 3 rune shards although they're only for a Level 3 rune and you only get three map draws. This setup doesn't win every time, but often enough that I think you will be pleased with it.
I was very happy to discover that there is no Soul Bind on Level 3, so you can use Recyclers in your deck. On both my main and alt accounts, I still had to play manually due to the varying skills of the enemy cards, but was able to win using Level 7 Berserker as hero, Bless cards - 2x Oracle, Frost Rager, Devotee, and Blood Warlock, 1 or 2 Recyclers, Mythril on main account, Jormungund on alt, and the rest, cards with high level Immunity - Spider Queens, Mimir's Tree, etc. The Boars really help to supplement your deck and keep it and the hero alive for the required 20 rounds.
The biggest challenge I found is getting a crit in front of the Chainstrike 10 enemy that can stand up to it for multiple rounds. For me it was Jormungund, Mythril, or Spider Queen. When that placement didn't happen is usually what caused me to lose.
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Post by xathrax on Mar 31, 2016 8:12:43 GMT
I'm wondering where people get the Hero Vigor V rune? I've probably spent around 400k glory so far and I have a single Hero Vigor II rune.
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Post by drakkan on Mar 31, 2016 8:59:53 GMT
I'm wondering where people get the Hero Vigor V rune? I've probably spent around 400k glory so far and I have a single Hero Vigor II rune. That's the most frequent Hero 5* rune for me .. but 400k glory is really not much for runes .. if you got more than 3-4 5* runes from that, consider yourself quite lucky..
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Mar 31, 2016 9:08:23 GMT
I've found the easiest 4 and 5 star Grimoire to beat is the survival one where you get the protean rune shards. Having Judgement with a Hero Vigor V rune at level 5+ is the best and then a bunch of FA oracles. However, since I do not have those this is what I use: lvl 84 Royal Guard lvl 4 blessing, Hero Vigor V (hero has 70k hp) 2 FA oracles 2 FA Frost Rager Mythril Drone Hippolyta anything else that has blessing on it. What I started doing was instead of laying down an entire line of cards I would just play one card (which will survive for 2 rounds) and let the hero take all the hits. When that card is destroyed, I play one card again and repeat. Once blessing is ready I play 3 cards so they can survive at least 3 rounds. By doing this I am able to easily survive 10 rounds of combat with more than 20k health left on hero and about 4 cards left. I make sure to space out the cards with bless on them so that they aren't all destroyed in the first few rounds. When I go for the 5* shards it gets a lot harder. This time instead of 3 cards I only play 2, one of them being able to heal the hero. I've also swapped out Royal Guard for Predator, Berserker, or Dragon Rider since they take damage for the hero as well. The best of the 3 is Berserker because of the 3 boars, but if you have a Predator or Dragon Rider who can summon at level 5 then use him instead. Hope this helps! To do the 5* on Protean Grimore, you will need at least lv8 Hero Vigor rune on Judge and you will need luck of the draw while playing it manually for 15mins+ which is a pain. But 4* is easy enough if you run plenty of Oracles.
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Post by xathrax on Mar 31, 2016 10:23:29 GMT
I'm wondering where people get the Hero Vigor V rune? I've probably spent around 400k glory so far and I have a single Hero Vigor II rune. That's the most frequent Hero 5* rune for me .. but 400k glory is really not much for runes .. if you got more than 3-4 5* runes from that, consider yourself quite lucky..
Ok, so I should expect months of farming? To be honest I'd even be thrilled to see a Hero Vigor III rune.
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Post by drakkan on Mar 31, 2016 11:07:42 GMT
That's the most frequent Hero 5* rune for me .. but 400k glory is really not much for runes .. if you got more than 3-4 5* runes from that, consider yourself quite lucky..
Ok, so I should expect months of farming? To be honest I'd even be thrilled to see a Hero Vigor III rune.
It depends on how much glory you get and a bit of luck .. it will drop eventually, its not a rare rune .. (esp that Hero Vigor III )
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Apr 3, 2016 21:40:19 GMT
I'm wondering where people get the Hero Vigor V rune? I've probably spent around 400k glory so far and I have a single Hero Vigor II rune. It just comes when you least expect it. I have one on my alt (lucky drawing account), but my main account has only Hero Vigor Is, II's and III's . Drawing with gems doesn't seem to work for my main account either. I've only spent a few just to see what it would do, but actually only got the same typical I, II and III level runes that I'd normally get with glory.
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