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Post by Yuna on Jun 23, 2016 8:15:56 GMT
Tons of chainstrike and bullseye in 5*, it's a mess. ^ no..in the 5*.. only 1 chainer, 1 instant kill, 1 rip and 1 hero hunter guy....these 4 are the ones that will wreck u ...I dun believe there is any bulleyes.... u need 2 special crits to counter chainer and ripper and be lucky that hero hunter and instant kill drop out in the first 1-5 cards...else u are screwed.... There is, indeed, 1 Bullseye creature. I also don't see how whether or not Hero Hunter is among the first 1-5 cards deployed or not changes anything. I'm pretty sure there's a glitch in the 5-star version where Hero Hunter will always gets its bonus, even if it's facing a creature, so you'll need something with Frost Armor or that is immune to Physical Damage to place in front of it.
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Post by ✿Akame✿ on Jun 23, 2016 8:55:29 GMT
Rampart rules there
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Post by SquagglyCat on Jun 23, 2016 14:28:23 GMT
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jun 23, 2016 14:30:26 GMT
no..in the 5*.. only 1 chainer, 1 instant kill, 1 rip and 1 hero hunter guy....these 4 are the ones that will wreck u ...I dun believe there is any bulleyes.... u need 2 special crits to counter chainer and ripper and be lucky that hero hunter and instant kill drop out in the first 1-5 cards...else u are screwed.... There is, indeed, 1 Bullseye creature. I also don't see how whether or not Hero Hunter is among the first 1-5 cards deployed or not changes anything. I'm pretty sure there's a glitch in the 5-star version where Hero Hunter will always gets its bonus, even if it's facing a creature, so you'll need something with Frost Armor or that is immune to Physical Damage to place in front of it. Yea i noticed that too. has to be a glitch.
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Post by nowar on Jun 24, 2016 4:02:36 GMT
Ok, so now all of us came to the conclusion that Protean 4* can be beaten easily with any high HP hero and bunch of Bless creatures. No doubt about it. However, people only managed to beat Protean 5* with Judgement. I heard some rumors about a possibility of beating Protean 5 with high-level predator with a high healer deck. Even "Narato" said in one of his videos. Can someone confirm this? Has someone ever beaten Protean 5 with any hero other than Jugdement? Or is this a myth? Thanks homies!
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 24, 2016 4:45:37 GMT
Ok, so now all of us came to the conclusion that Protean 4* can be beaten easily with any high HP hero and bunch of Bless creatures. No doubt about it. However, people only managed to beat Protean 5* with Judgement. I heard some rumors about a possibility of beating Protean 5 with high-level predator with a high healer deck. Even "Narato" said in one of his videos. Can someone confirm this? Has someone ever beaten Protean 5 with any hero other than Jugdement? Or is this a myth? Thanks homies! Yeah I heard him say it can be beaten by a predator but he never showed how it was done. I for sure think its very possible to finish Protean 5 with a Lv10 Predator easily because once it reaches Lv10 it reduces all physical damage and magic damage by 50% and it just becomes a huge tank in soaking hero damage. I currently have my Predator at Lv7, 120/130 shards to get to Lv8, Hero Vigor V Rune Lv6 25k/32k exp. to Lv7. Once I level both of those up again, ill try it again and see how far i can make it. I also need to unlock Dragonlord off the dungeon map which im hoping to do once aquire my new cards from meld event. I'll make sure to post what the results are.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 24, 2016 7:00:50 GMT
Ok, so now all of us came to the conclusion that Protean 4* can be beaten easily with any high HP hero and bunch of Bless creatures. No doubt about it. However, people only managed to beat Protean 5* with Judgement.
I heard some rumors about a possibility of beating Protean 5 with high-level predator with a high healer deck. Even "Narato" said in one of his videos. Can someone confirm this? Has someone ever beaten Protean 5 with any hero other than Jugdement? Or is this a myth? Thanks homies! You're thinking of Naruto and both of those things were only possible prior to the buff to Protean V Gromoire where all of the enemy creatures became immune to Mythril Drone's Spellbinder.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 25, 2016 1:03:04 GMT
Ok, so now all of us came to the conclusion that Protean 4* can be beaten easily with any high HP hero and bunch of Bless creatures. No doubt about it. However, people only managed to beat Protean 5* with Judgement. I heard some rumors about a possibility of beating Protean 5 with high-level predator with a high healer deck. Even "Narato" said in one of his videos. Can someone confirm this? Has someone ever beaten Protean 5 with any hero other than Jugdement? Or is this a myth? Thanks homies! Yeah I heard him say it can be beaten by a predator but he never showed how it was done. I for sure think its very possible to finish Protean 5 with a Lv10 Predator easily because once it reaches Lv10 it reduces all physical damage and magic damage by 50% and it just becomes a huge tank in soaking hero damage. I currently have my Predator at Lv7, 120/130 shards to get to Lv8, Hero Vigor V Rune Lv6 25k/32k exp. to Lv7. Once I level both of those up again, ill try it again and see how far i can make it. I also need to unlock Dragonlord off the dungeon map which im hoping to do once aquire my new cards from meld event. I'll make sure to post what the results are. Your optimism is awesome bro. But coming From a guy who has a predator 10, he cannot tank enough to survive. A grizzly will have 3000 life. You have to endure 8 rounds of a full board. One full board does 25,000 damage before hero hunter is calculated. A grizzly can get the 500 First attack damage if its a non attack moded one, like benediction, then he must endure the non hero damage at 50%. Suffice to say, he will only be able to likely tank about 8000-10,000 of the full board in a round. That leaves about 15,000 damage per round of the eight full board rounds, or 120,000 damage. You will reduce it by throwing cards in front if that, but we still haven't considered hero hunter extra, or the first seven rounds of card playing to get that full board. Try to remember, we are dealing with a theoretical max hero damage of more than 250,000. You need your cards to survive just to keep the hero alive as much as the hero needs to be able to keep the creatures alive.
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 4:25:03 GMT
Yeah I heard him say it can be beaten by a predator but he never showed how it was done. I for sure think its very possible to finish Protean 5 with a Lv10 Predator easily because once it reaches Lv10 it reduces all physical damage and magic damage by 50% and it just becomes a huge tank in soaking hero damage. I currently have my Predator at Lv7, 120/130 shards to get to Lv8, Hero Vigor V Rune Lv6 25k/32k exp. to Lv7. Once I level both of those up again, ill try it again and see how far i can make it. I also need to unlock Dragonlord off the dungeon map which im hoping to do once aquire my new cards from meld event. I'll make sure to post what the results are. Your optimism is awesome bro. But coming From a guy who has a predator 10, he cannot tank enough to survive. A grizzly will have 3000 life. You have to endure 8 rounds of a full board. One full board does 25,000 damage before hero hunter is calculated. A grizzly can get the 500 First attack damage if its a non attack moded one, like benediction, then he must endure the non hero damage at 50%. Suffice to say, he will only be able to likely tank about 8000-10,000 of the full board in a round. That leaves about 15,000 damage per round of the eight full board rounds, or 120,000 damage. You will reduce it by throwing cards in front if that, but we still haven't considered hero hunter extra, or the first seven rounds of card playing to get that full board. Try to remember, we are dealing with a theoretical max hero damage of more than 250,000. You need your cards to survive just to keep the hero alive as much as the hero needs to be able to keep the creatures alive. Have you tried purchasing the PVE buffs that increase creature health? 50% increase would be reasonable to get and would increase grizzly bear to at least 4500 health. Also did you take in consideration Faen Life Lv10 400+ Health on top of that for Grizzly Bear plus Agile for 3 turns. On top of that theres also All Vigor Health Hero Rune and Faen Vigor Rune. At Lv10 with 80% damage reduction against hero damage and high enough Hero Vigor V rune, your saying its not possible? No way to come even close?
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Post by zairto on Jun 25, 2016 5:03:25 GMT
What about a bunch of snow harlot?
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Post by Yuna on Jun 25, 2016 5:53:32 GMT
What about a bunch of snow harlot? Your hero dies.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 25, 2016 18:14:04 GMT
Since freezing dance works, dies anyone know if flurry works as well, or if it's only freezing dance that can defeat serenity?
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 19:14:50 GMT
no flurry wont work as per on serenty description only "skill" drawing one card on first attempt and equip a high initial rage rune to your hero then draw 2 to 3 cards at the same time will be better so you can survive at early round, the first 5 cards is the key and wait up to round 16 to 18 round then go all out so freezing dance will freeze a lot of creatures make sure your first 5 cards have protection from tempest and some (major s*** ), but problems occur when hero hunter is on the 6th or 7th place you might reconsider countering it or your hero dies
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 25, 2016 21:40:29 GMT
Also, another thing to consider, I can't field this but a lot of you high level guys can, but Kitsune has unbound, and frost blade can take out up to 5 attackers each round. Since you can rune her up pretty hardcore, she may be able to survive with healing ongoing. And having her connect just three or four times completely substitutes two full waves of soul eater. I am uncertain if FB works against serenity. Has anyone tried it?
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Post by barleylime on Jun 25, 2016 21:47:00 GMT
Maybe the new Equipment systems will be able to help in Protean V. By boosting the hero & creature health.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 21:59:27 GMT
Also, another thing to consider, I can't field this but a lot of you high level guys can, but Kitsune has unbound, and frost blade can take out up to 5 attackers each round. Since you can rune her up pretty hardcore, she may be able to survive with healing ongoing. And having her connect just three or four times completely substitutes two full waves of soul eater. I am uncertain if FB works against serenity. Has anyone tried it? refrain on using other creatures that is easy to die remember you need ten bless creatures and as much as possible on one faction to buff them hard, kitsune's frost blade is at skill bracket so its useless, on the other hand judge freezing dance is on talent bracket that's why it works
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 22:06:36 GMT
Also, another thing to consider, I can't field this but a lot of you high level guys can, but Kitsune has unbound, and frost blade can take out up to 5 attackers each round. Since you can rune her up pretty hardcore, she may be able to survive with healing ongoing. And having her connect just three or four times completely substitutes two full waves of soul eater. I am uncertain if FB works against serenity. Has anyone tried it? refrain on using other creatures that is easy to die remember you need ten bless creatures and as much as possible on one faction to buff them hard, kitsune's frost blade is at skill bracket so its useless, on the other hand judge freezing dance is on talent bracket that's why it works I dont think thats true about the skill and talent bracket. Otherwise wouldnt you be able you use for example deep freeze as a talent?
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Post by Yuna on Jun 25, 2016 22:18:59 GMT
Also, another thing to consider, I can't field this but a lot of you high level guys can, but Kitsune has unbound, and frost blade can take out up to 5 attackers each round. Since you can rune her up pretty hardcore, she may be able to survive with healing ongoing. And having her connect just three or four times completely substitutes two full waves of soul eater. I am uncertain if FB works against serenity. Has anyone tried it? Have you, you know, tried playing the Grimoire (or Guild Maps)? The enemy heroes all have Mantra, which is cast at the start of every single turn and clears every single status effect in the game. Every. Single. One.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 25, 2016 22:20:05 GMT
Also, another thing to consider, I can't field this but a lot of you high level guys can, but Kitsune has unbound, and frost blade can take out up to 5 attackers each round. Since you can rune her up pretty hardcore, she may be able to survive with healing ongoing. And having her connect just three or four times completely substitutes two full waves of soul eater. I am uncertain if FB works against serenity. Has anyone tried it? refrain on using other creatures that is easy to die remember you need ten bless creatures and as much as possible on one faction to buff them hard, kitsune's frost blade is at skill bracket so its useless, on the other hand judge freezing dance is on talent bracket that's why it works There, there. You're both pretty wrong. Pretty sure Freezing Dance is also cleared by Mantra.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 22:47:12 GMT
refrain on using other creatures that is easy to die remember you need ten bless creatures and as much as possible on one faction to buff them hard, kitsune's frost blade is at skill bracket so its useless, on the other hand judge freezing dance is on talent bracket that's why it works There, there. You're both pretty wrong. Pretty sure Freezing Dance is also cleared by Mantra. hehe, the hero on protean 5 doesn't activate mantra otherwise putting serenity skill is BS.. StackMasta,play it first level up i say you can give it a couple of tries and see how it works before you speculate what will work and will not work... protean 5 not only attacks your creatures it will destroy your hero as well so you better have a solution for that
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 22:56:15 GMT
There, there. You're both pretty wrong. Pretty sure Freezing Dance is also cleared by Mantra. hehe, the hero on protean 5 doesn't activate mantra otherwise putting serenity skill is BS.. StackMasta,play it first level up i say you can give it a couple of tries and see how it works before you speculate what will work and will not work... protean 5 not only attacks your creatures it will destroy your hero as well so you better have a solution for that So are you saying deep freeze does work then? And i think its pretty obvious protean 5 attacks your creatures and your hero, thats the whole point of surviving 15 rounds.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 22:57:31 GMT
hehe, the hero on protean 5 doesn't activate mantra otherwise putting serenity skill is BS.. StackMasta ,play it first level up i say you can give it a couple of tries and see how it works before you speculate what will work and will not work... protean 5 not only attacks your creatures it will destroy your hero as well so you better have a solution for that So are you saying deep freeze does work then? And i think its pretty obvious protean 5 attacks your creatures and your hero, thats the whole point of surviving 15 rounds. actually it's 32 rounds so using deep freeze i guess your onto deep s***
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 23:00:57 GMT
So are you saying deep freeze does work then? And i think its pretty obvious protean 5 attacks your creatures and your hero, thats the whole point of surviving 15 rounds. actually it's 32 rounds so using deep freeze i guess your onto deep s*** You know what i mean, 15 rounds of being attacked. You still didnt answer the question though.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 23:03:26 GMT
lol i never tried and whats the point? even my four star heroes don't have that crappy skill.. that answers that
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 23:04:07 GMT
lol i never tried and whats the point? even my four star heroes don't have that crappy skill.. that answers that Ahhh okay, i guess were both speculating then. I just wanted to know.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 23:06:45 GMT
i'm not speculating when i answered why freezing dance works.. please refer to opponent skill and understand it carefully, like i said play it couple of times seems debating with you is useless
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 23:10:53 GMT
i'm not speculating when i answered why freezing dance works.. please refer to opponent skill and understand it carefully, like i said play it couple of times seems debating with you is useless Yes but you said because it was a talent. That why I asked with that same logic, wouldnt deep freeze work then? Then you told me i was speculating, assuming you knew the answer already but you didnt because you never tried. So like I said were both speculating.
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Post by hoax on Jun 25, 2016 23:16:34 GMT
i'm not speculating when i answered why freezing dance works.. please refer to opponent skill and understand it carefully, like i said play it couple of times seems debating with you is useless Yes but you said because it was a talent. That why I asked with that same logic, wouldnt deep freeze work then? Then you told me i was speculating, assuming you knew the answer already but you didnt because you never tried. So like I said were both speculating. ok i c your point, after reset i guess its protean 5, ill try my wight's cripple ten and see how it works
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Post by StackMasta on Jun 25, 2016 23:21:42 GMT
Yes but you said because it was a talent. That why I asked with that same logic, wouldnt deep freeze work then? Then you told me i was speculating, assuming you knew the answer already but you didnt because you never tried. So like I said were both speculating. ok i c your point, after reset i guess its protean 5, ill try my wight's cripple ten and see how it works Lol i doubt it will work. But who knows if it does, could make things easier possibly.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 26, 2016 5:52:20 GMT
There, there. You're both pretty wrong. Pretty sure Freezing Dance is also cleared by Mantra. hehe, the hero on protean 5 doesn't activate mantra otherwise putting serenity skill is BS.. StackMasta ,play it first level up i say you can give it a couple of tries and see how it works before you speculate what will work and will not work... protean 5 not only attacks your creatures it will destroy your hero as well so you better have a solution for that Oh, I see...
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