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Post by zerole on Jun 21, 2016 2:25:03 GMT
So this question has been asked countless times I'm sure, but I imagine the answer will differ depending on each player's situation. This is mine:
-Float between 30-50 in Arena -Float between 1200-1500 in Tournament -Full F2P player -Best Heroes currently are Wight (Lv10), and Berserker, Devil Hunter, Dragon Rider, Paw Master, Royal Guard (all Lv9) -As far as attainable game changing cards go, I've got a Paragon but no Mythril Golem -I've got a lot of good 4* Melds (Disposal Royal Dragon, Rec HB, Sac Twins, BB8/FA Grabboids, Instant Kill Harbingers, Disposal Light Braves, etc) and I'm slowly working on Guild Map 5* Melds (Sac/Sneak Anathema/Pit Dragon, Disposal Spirit Siren, Revive Mimir) -Slowly working on Retreat QT (I've got 2 extra copies for Melding ATM) -I've got about 500K Glory Points I can use
What do you guys think? My gut says SA is best long term, but knowing how long it has taken me to raise 4* Heroes to Lv9+ (and they can be acquired from multiple sources), I'm fairly sure I'll quit or this game will be shut down before I reach Lv5+ on any of these 5* Heroes.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 21, 2016 2:41:32 GMT
Oceanus works at low lvls but the clones are squishy. But squishy on a high cost enemy can still he good especially when factoring runes.
SA at low lvls is nothing compared to 5+ but she still works.
VS is great out of the box.
If you don't feel you will have a long time to invest then I'd say the ranking would be: 1. VS 2. Oceanus 3. SA If you think you will see it through to at least lvl 5 then I rank them at: 1. SA 2/3. Oceanus and VS
They are all good but in my humble opinion this would be the best way to weight them.
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Post by zerole on Jun 21, 2016 2:51:12 GMT
Thanks for your advice. The only thing that makes me wary about VS is that, whether or not its intended, her skill on currently afflicted creatures is cleared if she casts on on some new ones.
If it weren't for Oceanus being unable to learn Lucidity, he'd probably be my default choice since he can get me access to stronger cards than I would ever ordinarily use.
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Post by Absoul on Jun 21, 2016 3:06:29 GMT
VS is good, doesn't need much investment to be decent. Oceanus is stiklar one of the best heroes, needs only to be level 4 to be good. SA gets pretty much hard countered by any good deck with alice, don't really like her that much. Also needs to be level 8 to be good.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 21, 2016 7:54:22 GMT
Lvl 4 VS seems pretty legit. I'm just glad I haven't had to face one with lucidity yet.
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Post by drakkan on Jun 21, 2016 8:28:18 GMT
Spirit Arbiter is good at lvl7+, there aren't many decks that lvl7 cant beat and lvl8 can .. (but still, lvl7 is out of F2P range)
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 21, 2016 8:31:25 GMT
How is the shard increase again per level for 5*.... lvl 1: 10, lvl 2: 20, anyone have full list
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Post by komainu on Jun 21, 2016 10:08:48 GMT
How is the shard increase again per level for 5*.... lvl 1: 10, lvl 2: 20, anyone have full list I am quite sure the shard increase is the same for all heroes 1-5 star
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jun 21, 2016 18:40:39 GMT
Forget about SA, she doesn't belong to the league of pure F2P players, sadly. You can leave Oceanus at lvl 5 and VS at lvl 4.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 21, 2016 18:47:37 GMT
Any hero is f2p...just a matter of time to level 10.... problem is by then new and super op hero will pop up
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Post by zerole on Jun 21, 2016 20:14:46 GMT
It's a matter of practicality.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 22, 2016 13:33:42 GMT
Yup practicality is an issue...investment returns only once u see higher level for SA
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Jun 22, 2016 14:46:52 GMT
Spirit Arbiter is good at lvl7+, there aren't many decks that lvl7 cant beat and lvl8 can .. (but still, lvl7 is out of F2P range) It does make a noticeable difference, I battle with someone in the arena who's SA was 1 lvl below mine and the amount of times I destroyed a creature and he didn't was definately noticeable
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Post by icezaius on Jun 22, 2016 16:53:27 GMT
What are the special talents available to VS, SA, and I guess Alchemist too? Those are the 3 ore mall heroes with better talents than the rest correct?
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Post by ozzy on Jun 22, 2016 17:57:55 GMT
What are the special talents available to VS, SA, and I guess Alchemist too? Those are the 3 ore mall heroes with better talents than the rest correct? Only lucidity and mass charm as far as I know
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Post by corvin on Jun 22, 2016 18:07:32 GMT
What are the special talents available to VS, SA, and I guess Alchemist too? Those are the 3 ore mall heroes with better talents than the rest correct? Mass Charm and Lucidity, I think
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 22, 2016 18:32:59 GMT
What are the special talents available to VS, SA, and I guess Alchemist too? Those are the 3 ore mall heroes with better talents than the rest correct? Mass Charm and Lucidity, I think SA no mass charm I think. Mass charm is reserved for special faen heroes if not mistaken
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Post by ozzy on Jun 22, 2016 18:48:29 GMT
SA no mass charm I think. Mass charm is reserved for special faen heroes if not mistaken
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 22, 2016 19:41:16 GMT
SA no mass charm I think. Mass charm is reserved for special faen heroes if not mistaken oh....I am wrong .. sorry
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Post by icezaius on Jun 22, 2016 22:56:52 GMT
I know alchemist has mass charm also. Are those the only 2 extra/better talents?
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Post by zerole on Jun 23, 2016 0:09:33 GMT
Lucidity is incredibly powerful though.
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Post by drakkan on Jun 23, 2016 9:54:47 GMT
Spirit Arbiter is good at lvl7+, there aren't many decks that lvl7 cant beat and lvl8 can .. (but still, lvl7 is out of F2P range) It does make a noticeable difference, I battle with someone in the arena who's SA was 1 lvl below mine and the amount of times I destroyed a creature and he didn't was definately noticeable You want to say that lvl7 SA is not good? The winrate matters not the amount of killed creature.. but thats hard to measure There are some lvl7 SA in tourney Top20 and imo thats enough of a argument.. up till few days ago, Rafal and Loyan also played lvl7 SA .. SA has some weak points .. that mainly dont have much to do with weather its lvl is 7 or 8 ..
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Jun 23, 2016 10:06:24 GMT
It does make a noticeable difference, I battle with someone in the arena who's SA was 1 lvl below mine and the amount of times I destroyed a creature and he didn't was definately noticeable You want to say that lvl7 SA is not good? The winrate matters not the amount of killed creature.. but thats hard to measure There are some lvl7 SA in tourney Top20 and imo thats enough of a argument.. up till few days ago, Rafal and Loyan also played lvl7 SA .. SA has some weak points .. that mainly dont have much to do with weather its lvl is 7 or 8 .. It can make a huge difference when it comes down to what HP pool the opposing creature has.
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Post by drakkan on Jun 23, 2016 11:34:50 GMT
You want to say that lvl7 SA is not good? The winrate matters not the amount of killed creature.. but thats hard to measure There are some lvl7 SA in tourney Top20 and imo thats enough of a argument.. up till few days ago, Rafal and Loyan also played lvl7 SA .. SA has some weak points .. that mainly dont have much to do with weather its lvl is 7 or 8 .. It can make a huge difference when it comes down to what HP pool the opposing creature has. There is a notably difference of what creature can be killed with lvl8 and lvl7 (some 900HP) .. but if creature isnt killed SA gets some rage (and your creatures can finish it up) .. so its not only about killing creatures. Anyways, my lvl7 SA works pretty well and while lvl8 is surely better, lvl7 is still quite powerful and viable.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jun 23, 2016 13:01:54 GMT
Lv7 SA is damn powerful. Trust me i was lv7 for a good while before i reached lv8.
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Post by scap on Aug 6, 2017 11:08:53 GMT
Hello, I am in a similar situation as zerole (f2p, etc.), has something changed in the meantime? Should I go for VS instead of Oceanus and forget SA? (since I don't think that I could get SA to lvl 3+)
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Post by spizz0 on Aug 6, 2017 11:31:11 GMT
Hello, I am in a similar situation as zerole (f2p, etc.), has something changed in the meantime? Should I go for VS instead of Oceanus and forget SA? (since I don't think that I could get SA to lvl 3+) If you have to chose from scratch, don't go for Oceanus, just focus on VS or SA. Do you have any VS available at lv.4? If not, go for VS lv.4 first: very easy to achieve and damn powerful. If you already have a VS and don't want to play with multiple ones, then go for SA and work hard on her to get at least lv 7-8
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Post by scap on Aug 6, 2017 14:23:01 GMT
Thank you On the wiki it's written that VS is basically a 5 star version of Wight, then I thought that maybe it should be better to have a hero with a new skill (as Oceanus) than two heroes with a "similar" skill (VS and Wight). But since, on the several threads I read on this forum, Oceanus seems to be not recommended I will follow your advice! Clone skill is quite interesting though, it's quite a pain for me in the trials..
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Post by spizz0 on Aug 6, 2017 14:40:45 GMT
Thank you On the wiki it's written that VS is basically a 5 star version of Wight, then I thought that maybe it should be better to have a hero with a new skill (as Oceanus) than two heroes with a "similar" skill (VS and Wight). But since, on the several threads I read on this forum, Oceanus seems to be not recommended I will follow your advice! Clone skill is quite interesting though, it's quite a pain for me in the trials.. VS disables creatures under her requiem while Wight not, this is a huge difference.. I don't see why it is written that she is an improved wight Oceanus is not bad, but he requires more level than VS and, last but not least, he is not as versatile as VS. VS wins over Oceanus imho.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Aug 6, 2017 15:35:42 GMT
Thank you On the wiki it's written that VS is basically a 5 star version of Wight, then I thought that maybe it should be better to have a hero with a new skill (as Oceanus) than two heroes with a "similar" skill (VS and Wight). But since, on the several threads I read on this forum, Oceanus seems to be not recommended I will follow your advice! Clone skill is quite interesting though, it's quite a pain for me in the trials.. VS disables creatures under her requiem while Wight not, this is a huge difference.. I don't see why it is written that she is an improved wight Oceanus is not bad, but he requires more level than VS and, last but not least, he is not as versatile as VS. VS wins over Oceanus imho. she used to not disable until hp fell below a certain threshold. So basically all she did was dot, just like wight. She got waaaay betterm when they buffed hero to disable immediately.
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