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Post by zairto on Jul 29, 2016 11:05:06 GMT
Wait. 16 white equipment = 4 green = 1 blue equipment. Not purple! damn, now it costs 3 purple mats but it's still better because of the 98% chance I guess. With corvin method, all my 4 tries return orange
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Post by corvin on Jul 29, 2016 11:09:29 GMT
Can any Mathematics Specialist tell me the most efficient Forumla to craft a Lvl5 material? Tanisomsford posted it here: "purple plus white, plus a white item, crafts a purple item 98%, orange 2%. This purple item, plus two purple material, creates orange lv1 items at 98%" For 3 purple and 3 white materials you get 1 gold material.
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Post by ozzy on Jul 29, 2016 11:15:56 GMT
damn, now it costs 3 purple mats but it's still better because of the 98% chance I guess. With corvin method, all my 4 tries return orange my one try returned purple :/
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 12:46:36 GMT
Just to make it clear:
To craft a Lv1 white equipment, we need 2 Lv1 white materials
So the equation is:
Lv1 White equipment = 2 Lv1 White materia Upgrade to Lv1 Green Equipment = 4 x Lv1 White equipment = 8 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Blue Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Green equipment = 32 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Purple Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Blue equipment = 128 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Orange Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Purple equipment = 512 Lv1 White material
Conclusion, it is not worth to get a orange material by using upgrading method.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jul 29, 2016 13:02:02 GMT
I did some calculations a while back and figured out that it'd take like 85 days to upgrade a lv 5 white sword to a lv 5 orange sword. Super inefficient.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 13:13:44 GMT
How many orange materials we get if we dismantled Lv5 orange equipment?
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 13:16:42 GMT
I did some calculations a while back and figured out that it'd take like 85 days to upgrade a lv 5 white sword to a lv 5 orange sword. Super inefficient. For Lv1 Orange equipment, it takes about 43 days. Days to upgrade two Lv1 Orange Equipment almost similar with one lv5 Orange Equipment. lol
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Post by drair on Jul 29, 2016 13:20:58 GMT
Think the most optimal way to create a gold is the following: Use 2x16 white material to create 16 lvl 1 white equipment ... Upgrade this 16 equipment to one purple lvl 1 equipment Then use 2 puple material and the purple equipment to make a gold lvl 1 equipment (98+% chance) This way you only pay 2.5 purplуe material (32 white is equal to 0.5 purple) for a gold material Wait. 16 white equipment = 4 green = 1 blue equipment. Not purple! No 16 white material is equal 8 green lvl 1 equipment
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Post by ozzy on Jul 29, 2016 13:22:09 GMT
So I got a lvl3 purple equipment using two gold two purple (freakin bullshi) do you know a better way to dismantle it (like in the case of Lvl1 purple) than dismantling it directly and getting two purple materials?
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 13:28:27 GMT
Wait. 16 white equipment = 4 green = 1 blue equipment. Not purple! No 16 white material is equal 8 green lvl 1 equipment 16 white equipment is equal to 1 blue equipment lah.. corvin is correct.
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Post by drair on Jul 29, 2016 13:41:16 GMT
Just to make it clear: To craft a Lv1 white equipment, we need 2 Lv1 white materials So the equation is: Lv1 White equipment = 2 Lv1 White materia Upgrade to Lv1 Green Equipment = 4 x Lv1 White equipment = 8 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Blue Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Green equipment = 32 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Purple Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Blue equipment = 128 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Orange Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Purple equipment = 512 Lv1 White material Conclusion, it is not worth to get a orange material by using upgrading method. You are so right, most be the sun in Thailand that gets to me :-)
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 13:45:15 GMT
Just to make it clear: To craft a Lv1 white equipment, we need 2 Lv1 white materials So the equation is: Lv1 White equipment = 2 Lv1 White materia Upgrade to Lv1 Green Equipment = 4 x Lv1 White equipment = 8 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Blue Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Green equipment = 32 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Purple Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Blue equipment = 128 Lv1 White material Upgrade to Lv1 Orange Equipment = 4 x Lv1 Purple equipment = 512 Lv1 White material Conclusion, it is not worth to get a orange material by using upgrading method. You are so right, most be the sun in Thailand that gets to me :-) One can get severe sunburn if exposed too long under the sun in Thailand..
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Post by japoon on Jul 29, 2016 15:04:31 GMT
You are so right, most be the sun in Thailand that gets to me :-) One can get severe sunburn if exposed too long under the sun in Thailand.. Then, is there any most efficient way for getting 5* (Orange) materials? - Saving 2* (Green) Materials for upgrading? - Or crafting Lvl1 Orange Equipment and Dismantling it? Which way is the most efficient?
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Post by tanisomsford on Jul 29, 2016 15:11:35 GMT
Okay. Purple + white = purple lv1 item
Purplelv1 + purple + purple = gold lv1 item
Gold itemlv1 + gold, + white + white = gold lv3 item at 73.5%
Not a guarantee, but it took 1 gold + 3 purples to dismantle into 2 golds.
If you dont want 74%, you can bump it to 85% by adding an extra purple. This costs more than 2 orange because of all the white you sink into it, but you get to dismantle into different oranges. At lv3 they can dismantle into any of the four in the group.
***busy bees last night, I post and go to bed, and wake up to two pages of this, lol!
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Post by berseker on Jul 29, 2016 16:01:13 GMT
Hey all! Good thread! It is helping me to understand equipment A question here...what would be the process to get a level 5 orange item? (Sword, etc) Txs in advance for the help! (And if my question makes no sense...please bare with me)
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Post by zairto on Jul 29, 2016 17:55:22 GMT
So, we can use other type equipment to sacrifice. Then I can use All kind of material to produce my Boots:
First, Craft lv1 orange Sword then use it to craft lv2 orange Next, Use Sword to craft lv3 orange Belt. Finally, use Belt to craft lv5 Boots
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Post by Doomkin✪NFS on Jul 29, 2016 20:04:05 GMT
FYI, 4 gold mats + lvl5 gold equipment = ~43% chance at a lvl5 gold craft. Let that sink in.
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Post by vagou on Jul 29, 2016 22:23:43 GMT
FYI, 4 gold mats + lvl5 gold equipment = ~43% chance at a lvl5 gold craft. Let that sink in. Yep, no way to get higher than 42.5%. I hate this RNG, I failed 6 times in a row...!!!
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 29, 2016 22:27:41 GMT
FYI, 4 gold mats + lvl5 gold equipment = ~43% chance at a lvl5 gold craft. Let that sink in. Yep, no way to get higher than 42.5%. I hate this RNG, I failed 6 times in a row...!!! u win...I had 5 purple in a row and tot it was bad.....
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Post by japoon on Jul 29, 2016 23:36:32 GMT
Yep, no way to get higher than 42.5%. I hate this RNG, I failed 6 times in a row...!!! u win...I had 5 purple in a row and tot it was bad..... I guess it is another trap set by IGG. IGG "told" us the percentage is 42.5% but who knows? Maybe the actual percentage is 22.5%. At least the statistics here didn't support the 42.5% figure. It is another illusion like the Lucky Flip. I am 100000% sure that the probability of drawing a 5* materials isn't 1/9!!! (If one of the Flip is Orange Material)
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Post by sblip on Jul 30, 2016 0:08:39 GMT
Hey all! Good thread! It is helping me to understand equipment A question here...what would be the process to get a level 5 orange item? (Sword, etc) Txs in advance for the help! (And if my question makes no sense...please bare with me) The best way to get a lvl 5 orange equipment is to make a lvl 3 orange equipment and then use all orange materials and the lvl 3 orange equipment as sacrifice. We're still trying to figure out the 'optimal' way to transmute / upgrade materials and equipment as to maximize returns. A lot of it is going to come down to RNG. If you successfully craft a lvl 1 orange equipment from 2 purple equipments, you effectively get 1 orange material for the price of only 2 purple materials, instead of 4. If you lose and get a purple equipment, you still dismantle it for a purple material and effectively only lose 1 purple material. Thus far I have had better than average success doing this.. something like 8 successes and 4 failures.. and the rate for orange lvl 1 equipment with 2 purples as sacrifice is only listed a 48.67%
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Post by sblip on Jul 30, 2016 0:55:14 GMT
There is a big caveat to doing this purple -> orange mats thing... lvl 1 equipment only uses jawbone, talon, gnarl, steel, sawtooth, and fur. grass, leaf, stardust, crystal, extract, and feather cannot be made in this way You can craft level 2 equipment and dismantle it, but the % chance with 3 purples is only 24%.. waaay lower than 48%. Not worth it. If someone can figure out a way to do this for these other materials, speak up.
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Post by zairto on Jul 30, 2016 2:29:31 GMT
There is a big caveat to doing this purple -> orange mats thing... lvl 1 equipment only uses jawbone, talon, gnarl, steel, sawtooth, and fur. grass, leaf, stardust, crystal, extract, and feather cannot be made in this way You can craft level 2 equipment and dismantle it, but the % chance with 3 purples is only 24%.. waaay lower than 48%. Not worth it. If someone can figure out a way to do this for these other materials, speak up. No. I can only think of adjusting the process. Produce more primary materials (jawbone, talon,...) while prioritize the other to use as orange
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Post by japoon on Jul 30, 2016 3:44:11 GMT
Okay. Purple + white = purple lv1 item Purplelv1 + purple + purple = gold lv1 item Gold itemlv1 + gold, + white + white = gold lv3 item at 73.5% Not a guarantee, but it took 1 gold + 3 purples to dismantle into 2 golds. If you dont want 74%, you can bump it to 85% by adding an extra purple. This costs more than 2 orange because of all the white you sink into it, but you get to dismantle into different oranges. At lv3 they can dismantle into any of the four in the group. ***busy bees last night, I post and go to bed, and wake up to two pages of this, lol! Let me summarize. Forumla 1 Purple + white = purple lv1 item Purplelv1 + purple + purple = gold lv1 item 3 Purple + 1 white materials = gold lvl1 item (98%) = Dismantle into 1 Gold materials Should be good but the materials type limited Forumla 2 Gold itemlv1 + gold, + white + white = gold lv3 item (73.5%) 1 Gold + 3 Purple + 3 white = gold lvl3 item (73.5%) At 73.5% if you success, you can save not enough 1 Purple materials At 26.5% if you unsuccess, you lose 1 Gold +1 Purple + 3 white materials (Lvl3 Purple can dismantle into 2 Purple Materials) The probability is not attractive and too risky in Formula 2
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 30, 2016 4:49:50 GMT
u win...I had 5 purple in a row and tot it was bad..... I guess it is another trap set by IGG. IGG "told" us the percentage is 42.5% but who knows? Maybe the actual percentage is 22.5%. At least the statistics here didn't support the 42.5% figure. It is another illusion like the Lucky Flip. I am 100000% sure that the probability of drawing a 5* materials isn't 1/9!!! (If one of the Flip is Orange Material) Strongly agree. IGG maths is suck. lol
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 30, 2016 4:51:00 GMT
Anyone know how much orange materials we can get by dismantling Lv5 orange equipment?
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Post by ℜ★God on Jul 30, 2016 5:00:42 GMT
^^^Me trying to do the math on this s*** .
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Post by sblip on Jul 30, 2016 6:03:20 GMT
It also seems like particular equipments get particular secondary attributes. I have 3 pairs of purple gloves that give % chance at "Control Success Rate", which is something that is not documented anywhere.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jul 30, 2016 9:58:34 GMT
It also seems like particular equipments get particular secondary attributes. I have 3 pairs of purple gloves that give % chance at "Control Success Rate", which is something that is not documented anywhere. perhaps potency doesn't affect control skills such as delay or the % chance on frost blade, tempest, discord, etc. Control success rate may be the multiplier for those.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jul 30, 2016 18:43:14 GMT
Okay. Purple + white = purple lv1 item Purplelv1 + purple + purple = gold lv1 item Gold itemlv1 + gold, + white + white = gold lv3 item at 73.5% Not a guarantee, but it took 1 gold + 3 purples to dismantle into 2 golds. If you dont want 74%, you can bump it to 85% by adding an extra purple. This costs more than 2 orange because of all the white you sink into it, but you get to dismantle into different oranges. At lv3 they can dismantle into any of the four in the group. ***busy bees last night, I post and go to bed, and wake up to two pages of this, lol! Let me summarize. Forumla 1 Purple + white = purple lv1 item Purplelv1 + purple + purple = gold lv1 item 3 Purple + 1 white materials = gold lvl1 item (98%) = Dismantle into 1 Gold materials Should be good but the materials type limited Forumla 2 Gold itemlv1 + gold, + white + white = gold lv3 item (73.5%) 1 Gold + 3 Purple + 3 white = gold lvl3 item (73.5%) At 73.5% if you success, you can save not enough 1 Purple materials At 26.5% if you unsuccess, you lose 1 Gold +1 Purple + 3 white materials (Lvl3 Purple can dismantle into 2 Purple Materials) The probability is not attractive and too risky in Formula 2 You dismantle the lv1 gold to get a gold material. So its 3 purple + 3 purple, plus 2 white, a green and a blue, and the success rate is over 80%
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