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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Aug 28, 2016 15:22:46 GMT
My main account is currently at Game Level 87 and I have a few 5* heroes, but still have difficulty because I don't have the strongest ones, and have not been able to level up the ones that I have very far yet, for the most part.
I realize this question is very subjective and depends a lot on the deck, but I would appreciate it if some of you that are high up in the game and have a lot of experience, would give me your thoughts as to which 5* heroes are the best to use against other 5* heroes like Oceanus, Captivator, Blademaster, Spirit Arbiter, Vile Songstress, Warlock, etc. I'm talking Arena and Tournament battles here for the most part, since they're the ones where we can pick our opponents, as well as Dungeon Maps in Maps 13-15. I have completed Map 13 on easy.
I have Armageddon Lvl 6, which was very strong for awhile, but now is getting beaten down by stronger Oceanus decks, as well as Caps, Vile Songstress, Warlock, and Spirit Arbiter. Since I'm primarily f2p I don't have a lot of the high-end 'exotic' cards that the whales and dolphins do. My best cards (not including any melds) are: Bewitcher, Cancer, Paragon, Killer Queen, Alice, Kumiho (but alas no Kitsune yet), Oinari, and Sagittarius x2. Armageddon does well against most 4* hero decks, and with a deck that includes Alice and Paragon, wins almost 100% against Wight.
My other current 5*'s heroes are: Hydra Lvl 4, Judgement Lvl 2, Blademaster Lvl 3, and Thor Lvl 2 (didn't try to get him....just kept getting free shards from Mines, and I can't see much use for him so haven't put much effort into doing aything with him). Working on Cap, whenever her shards show up in Tourny Mall, which of course still isn't very often.
As a for instance, I had a very hard time beating the Odin led deck in Dungeon Map 13-11 on easy. The battle guides helped some, but not much. Finally I decided to use my Blademaster, even though he is only Lvl 3 (that Odin is Lvl 1), and I haven't been able to get Protection on him, so have to go for at least four Neanders in the deck. After tweaking the deck a couple of times I was finally able to beat it.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Aug 28, 2016 18:13:30 GMT
Based on what you have your best bet is judgement to lvl 5, while waiting for captivator shards, and blade master as far as he can go. Blade doesn't do near as much damage after calculation nerf but can still do well to clean up if your deck is solid. Between the saggis and some other good crits you should be able to pump out some good dmg. I run 2 saggis and use judgementioned as my main and can regularly take rank 2 in my arena. Jaberou is rank 1 so it's a "no contest".
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Aug 31, 2016 2:55:58 GMT
Based on what you have your best bet is judgement to lvl 5, while waiting for captivator shards, and blade master as far as he can go. Blade doesn't do near as much damage after calculation nerf but can still do well to clean up if your deck is solid. Between the saggis and some other good crits you should be able to pump out some good dmg. I run 2 saggis and use judgementioned as my main and can regularly take rank 2 in my arena. Jaberou is rank 1 so it's a "no contest". Thanks, zanderx10. But what 5* heroes should I be able to take on using Judgement and which ones should I avoid?
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Post by Riche✪NFS on Aug 31, 2016 12:31:21 GMT
Not sure about 5* but I find judgement to be weaker to Wight than most.
Note I'm still finishing my non hydra 5*'s but if you care, personally would go with level 3 Blademaster over level 2 Judgement or the Armageddon. I would switch to the Armageddon if the opponent is weak against disposal and probabaly never switch to the Judgement except for pve unless you really have a good deck for it.
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Post by ℜ★God on Aug 31, 2016 14:03:28 GMT
Captivator is strong against most heroes (except Warlock and Druidess).
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Post by ZanderX10 on Sept 10, 2016 1:54:46 GMT
Based on what you have your best bet is judgement to lvl 5, while waiting for captivator shards, and blade master as far as he can go. Blade doesn't do near as much damage after calculation nerf but can still do well to clean up if your deck is solid. Between the saggis and some other good crits you should be able to pump out some good dmg. I run 2 saggis and use judgementioned as my main and can regularly take rank 2 in my arena. Jaberou is rank 1 so it's a "no contest". Thanks, zanderx10. But what 5* heroes should I be able to take on using Judgement and which ones should I avoid? my judge at lvl 5 can fight any hero (except druidess). There's no way to block a high lvl SA. Captivator used to give me problems but not so much any more. deck content is a huge factor.
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Post by whispydan on Sept 10, 2016 13:58:41 GMT
Using Alice in a mortii deck is just asking for trouble from Oceanus in my opinion..
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Post by ZanderX10 on Sept 10, 2016 14:24:05 GMT
Judgement is underrated. I know at least half a dozen ppl who use judgement as their main in arena and stay close to the top. The only reason why people don't think he is good is because he is purely defensive while the other mains are (primarily) offensive. No doubt captivator is better in terms of offense and defense combined but other than that your standard f2p heroes are all fairly equal in strength around lvl 5. It all depend on utilization. Once you get to lvl 7 captivator and spirit arbiter (imo) out class the others because of their raw power. Judgement is still as good as oceanus when used properly. Better in most cases unless you are fighting zodiacs often.
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Post by tchex on Sept 10, 2016 22:28:01 GMT
I think less people use judgement these days because there is less small damage spam then there used to be and that is where he really shines, most players who want a healey hero go for warlock for his greater single heal and debuff removal. Of course, there will be times when judgement comes up against a taurus or octavius and proves himself amazing, but there will be a great many more times he only gets a minor amount of healing.
Personally, I like my heroes skill to be able to activate immediately and be absolutely crippling to the enemy team or to give me a significant advantage and the best "free" heroes for that are spirit arbiter, oceanus or captivator - I used armageddon for a long time but found that keeping an enemy dead long enough to resurrect can be very problematic without multiple paragons.
If you want to persevere with judgement then get farming on runes cause you need your cards with really high health to get the best out of him (neander decks with multiple nidhoggs might help with this, especially if you fluke out and get a taurus)
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Post by ZanderX10 on Sept 11, 2016 11:06:54 GMT
I think less people use judgement these days because there is less small damage spam then there used to be and that is where he really shines, most players who want a healey hero go for warlock for his greater single heal and debuff removal. Of course, there will be times when judgement comes up against a taurus or octavius and proves himself amazing, but there will be a great many more times he only gets a minor amount of healing. Personally, I like my heroes skill to be able to activate immediately and be absolutely crippling to the enemy team or to give me a significant advantage and the best "free" heroes for that are spirit arbiter, oceanus or captivator - I used armageddon for a long time but found that keeping an enemy dead long enough to resurrect can be very problematic without multiple paragons. If you want to persevere with judgement then get farming on runes cause you need your cards with really high health to get the best out of him (neander decks with multiple nidhoggs might help with this, especially if you fluke out and get a taurus) you don't particularly need "small" dmg for his skill to work. I have completely tanked taurus hits and similar dmg ranges. It depends on your own board control (and how many crits proc earth's embrace that turn). Warlocks second effect is outstanding but his heals are almost nonexistent compared to judgement. I do full agree though that vigor is your best friend with judge. I rune hero vigor, all vig, faen vig, human vig, neander vig. Looooots of hp. Lots of sustain. Good board presence. Good board presence means more survivability (with earth's embrace) against omega impact, bombard, etc. My best way to argue the diff between judge and warlock is this: warlock is STRONG anti hero and weak anti crit dmg with little sustain. Judgement is moderate anti hero and strong anti crit dmg with heavy sustain. Considering that hero dmg can be that much more crucial at times yes warlock is a strong choice but given the surge in population with access to taurus, cosmic hair, and octavius there's full use of judgements ability and a large amount of rage gain and under the right circumstances can make your side just shy of immortal.
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Post by shofukamachi on Sept 11, 2016 19:05:22 GMT
I'm surprised there is no mention of VS anywhere on this thread...where would she fall on the list?
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Post by Sick. on Sept 11, 2016 19:46:46 GMT
Retreat is a pain in the a** for her, it becomes a problem if you always get your rage taken away because she needs to get her hero power off as many times as possible to disable as many creatures as possible. Also warlocks hero power hits her pretty hard and is not easy to deal with. Thats my experience with her but still she is still a beast of a hero.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Sept 13, 2016 5:48:31 GMT
Retreat is a pain in the a** for her, it becomes a problem if you always get your rage taken away because she needs to get her hero power off as many times as possible to disable as many creatures as possible. Also warlocks hero power hits her pretty hard and is not easy to deal with. Thats my experience with her but still she is still a beast of a hero. not to mention your own retreat tossing disabled cards back into their deck
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Post by Sick. on Sept 13, 2016 5:58:52 GMT
Yes, i forgot to edit my post i meant to say restreat queen temptress is a pain but you are also right if you retreat their crestures the hero powers effect is wasted.
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Post by sblip on Sept 15, 2016 6:57:03 GMT
i stay 4th in my arena with judgement as my hero. The VS, Captivator, and Oceanus above me .. it has nothing to do with the heroes, it has to do with the fact that they have sac Taurus, recycle Octavius, Granite Dragon, revive sisters, aquarius, sac Capricorn, etc. I'm lvl 95, the 3 above me are 102, 103, and 102. So .. I agree that Judgement is underrated.
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