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Post by gonash on Nov 13, 2016 17:12:07 GMT
Which Heroes are the best counter against those 5 Star Heroes ;
VS , SA , Arma , Warlock, Captivator, Warbringer , Judgement , Druidess , Oceanus , Alchemist , Thor, Light Hand, Odin , Overlord etc...
Thanks a lot for your time !
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Post by spizz0 on Nov 13, 2016 17:20:08 GMT
Quite a long list here , however pure hero countering is not as good as you may think in this game. You also need a solid deck in order to counter enemy's one. VS -> countered by Warlock (remove effect) Warbinger -> Warlock can NOT remove his effect, so I think he has no counter. Druidess -> Basically no counters for her. A solid druidess deck wins against all the others (yeah there happen some exceptions ofc) Arma/SA/Overlord -> rage control Captivator -> Warlock plus the new heroes with Lucidity talent Judgment -> No particular hero here, just avoid multiple mass damage, otherwise his spell with heal the f.uck out of them. Oceanus -> Lucidity talent. Alchemist -> You need to have as few as possible immunities and FA in your deck. Thor/Light Hand/Odin -> Why you need a counter for them? No one uses those heroes in pvp
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Post by Obliviscaris on Nov 13, 2016 20:55:17 GMT
Spizz is basically right - however, I'd like to add, from my experience, that Warbringer would be the best matchup counter for Druidess imo, as his skill goes through Ward (not initial damage, the DoT it applies), pair it with Kitsune and you've got yourself a nice control DoT deck.
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Post by ℜ★God on Nov 13, 2016 21:07:31 GMT
One does not simply counter Druidess.
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Post by Matt on Nov 13, 2016 21:36:04 GMT
One does not simply counter Druidess. Other/higher Druidess
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Post by ℜ★God on Nov 13, 2016 21:51:14 GMT
One does not simply counter Druidess. Other/higher Druidess IGG balancing in a nutshell.
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Post by Obliviscaris on Nov 14, 2016 1:11:12 GMT
One does not simply counter Druidess. You'd be surprised how many times my Warb deck won against Unclean's, Iceskull's and others Druidess'
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Post by suave1975aaa on Nov 16, 2016 0:29:09 GMT
Only Aquarius is the best counter for all hero..period.... but honestly, I would rank druidess as number 1 without much counter as this ward is special as it is both offensive and defensive.. number 2 war bringer no counter but warlock with healing able to somewhat slowdown the deterioration.... the next in line would be VS/SA....
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Post by ZanderX10 on Nov 16, 2016 1:06:11 GMT
I also want to add that judgment has a huge counter which is rip. Both druidess and the law eq skill render judge useless when rip activates. If not for the rip effect judgment would counter druidess well.
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Post by suave1975aaa on Nov 16, 2016 2:14:51 GMT
I also want to add that judgment has a huge counter which is rip. Both druidess and the law eq skill render judge useless when rip activates. If not for the rip effect judgment would counter druidess well. anyway it is all in their "balance" mindset...like new 5* have lucidity and old do not have so people can shelf the Oceanus, captivator to buy more new heroes....
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Post by Topspin on Nov 16, 2016 3:57:37 GMT
Agree on druidess being a counter to druidess. 😂
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Post by Yuna on Nov 16, 2016 6:00:58 GMT
One does not simply counter Druidess. You'd be surprised how many times my Warb deck won against Unclean's, Iceskull's and others Druidess' That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive.
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Post by barleylime on Nov 16, 2016 12:06:46 GMT
I find that Wight + Torment is a good counter to Judgment. It doesn't matter if the Earth Embrace triggers every turn. Wight's Death Curse will grow and grow and eventually kill the creature even though the creature has Earth Embrace. Slowly,... as more and more creatures get killed, and less and less creature on enemy board, the Earth Embrace triggers less because the enemy rage build slower.
As for Warlock being a counter to Captivator.... it doesn't work for me. What deck buildup would be good for Warlock to counter Captivator? My current Warlock deck is full human (with several Frost Armor) but no recycle or revive.
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Post by Yuna on Nov 16, 2016 13:14:42 GMT
I find that Wight + Torment is a good counter to Judgment. It doesn't matter if the Earth Embrace triggers every turn. Wight's Death Curse will grow and grow and eventually kill the creature even though the creature has Earth Embrace. Slowly,... as more and more creatures get killed, and less and less creature on enemy board, the Earth Embrace triggers less because the enemy rage build slower. As for Warlock being a counter to Captivator.... it doesn't work for me. What deck buildup would be good for Warlock to counter Captivator? My current Warlock deck is full human (with several Frost Armor) but no recycle or revive.There's your problem.
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Post by Obliviscaris on Nov 16, 2016 22:23:26 GMT
You'd be surprised how many times my Warb deck won against Unclean's, Iceskull's and others Druidess' That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. Haha, you're something else indeed.
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Post by Yuna on Nov 17, 2016 15:07:38 GMT
That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. Haha, you're something else indeed. "Oh, your Warbringer killed off my Kumiho and Kitsune? That's cute. My 2nd Kumiho just revived my Kitsune ("revived" for Kitsune) and another creature at the same time."
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Post by Iceskull on Nov 17, 2016 19:35:42 GMT
You'd be surprised how many times my Warb deck won against Unclean's, Iceskull's and others Druidess' That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10:
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Post by Yuna on Nov 17, 2016 20:01:59 GMT
That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10: Getting a lucky shot in every once in a while due to lucky draws and timing with Aquarius =/= Destroys It's not like you drew your Aquariuses early and I drew mine at the very end. It's not like for every victory you get over me, you need to try an average of 4-8 times while I almost always win against you on the first try. You were also helped by the fact that for some reason, I'd accidentally placed an unruned sacrifice!Granite Dragon in that deck instead of a runed one (a mistake since fixed), but whatever. It was all your hero doing all the work. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
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Post by Iceskull on Nov 17, 2016 20:11:17 GMT
Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10: Getting a lucky shot in every once in a while due to lucky draws and timing with Aquarius =/= Destroys It's not like you drew your Aquariuses early and I drew mine at the very end. It's not like for every victory you get over me, you need to try an average of 4-8 times while I almost always win against you on the first try. You were also helped by the fact that for some reason, I'd accidentally placed an unruned sacrifice!Granite Dragon in that deck instead of a runed one (a mistake since fixed), but whatever. It was all your hero doing all the work. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. Ofcourse you win almost all the time... you have the best Account on that Game im happy if i win and btw 3rd win in a row, go get me again xD
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Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10: Getting a lucky shot in every once in a while due to lucky draws and timing with Aquarius =/= Destroys It's not like you drew your Aquariuses early and I drew mine at the very end. It's not like for every victory you get over me, you need to try an average of 4-8 times while I almost always win against you on the first try. You were also helped by the fact that for some reason, I'd accidentally placed an unruned sacrifice!Granite Dragon in that deck instead of a runed one (a mistake since fixed), but whatever. It was all your hero doing all the work. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. Been wondering, how come you don't upgrade Plunder Vitality in Plague Doctor? Some dude on my friend's list already has it at lvl 10 dealing out 1000 damage to everyone every turn. And it's direct damage so I imagine it works like Taurus's ability in that it ignores immunity and dodge??
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Post by spizz0 on Nov 17, 2016 20:31:53 GMT
Sometimes you are not able to see upgraded skills in enemies' decks
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Post by Just a Morrison on Nov 18, 2016 3:24:00 GMT
Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10: Getting a lucky shot in every once in a while due to lucky draws and timing with Aquarius =/= Destroys It's not like you drew your Aquariuses early and I drew mine at the very end. It's not like for every victory you get over me, you need to try an average of 4-8 times while I almost always win against you on the first try. You were also helped by the fact that for some reason, I'd accidentally placed an unruned sacrifice!Granite Dragon in that deck instead of a runed one (a mistake since fixed), but whatever. It was all your hero doing all the work. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. Enough said GG Lol
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Post by Obliviscaris on Nov 18, 2016 5:45:00 GMT
That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10:
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Post by Yuna on Nov 18, 2016 11:49:02 GMT
Getting a lucky shot in every once in a while due to lucky draws and timing with Aquarius =/= Destroys It's not like you drew your Aquariuses early and I drew mine at the very end. It's not like for every victory you get over me, you need to try an average of 4-8 times while I almost always win against you on the first try. You were also helped by the fact that for some reason, I'd accidentally placed an unruned sacrifice!Granite Dragon in that deck instead of a runed one (a mistake since fixed), but whatever. It was all your hero doing all the work. But keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night. Been wondering, how come you don't upgrade Plunder Vitality in Plague Doctor? Some dude on my friend's list already has it at lvl 10 dealing out 1000 damage to everyone every turn. And it's direct damage so I imagine it works like Taurus's ability in that it ignores immunity and dodge?? Sometimes, skills show up as not upgraded in preview mode, even for your own decks. The Plunder Vitality of the Plague Doctor in one of my Tourney Decks is level 11.
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Post by Yuna on Nov 18, 2016 11:50:56 GMT
Sorry i dont have Triple Sisters but why i need it... if Vile Level 4 Destroys Druidess Level 10: Whose Druidess is that? Because it certainly isn't mine.
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Post by suave1975aaa on Nov 18, 2016 12:41:50 GMT
this thread becomes a whale showcase......
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Post by hetmasteen on Nov 19, 2016 6:25:18 GMT
this thread becomes a whale showcase...... bwahaha it's like walking into a country club and eavesdropping on a conversation about who's yacht is bigger. Then another dude joins in talking about how it's all about that private jet swag. Regardless, I really really wish there was a "view other player's recent tournament matches", to actually see how these top flight games play out.
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Post by Obliviscaris on Nov 19, 2016 13:19:04 GMT
Whose Druidess is that? Because it certainly isn't mine. Iceskull's
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Nov 20, 2016 20:25:32 GMT
You'd be surprised how many times my Warb deck won against Unclean's, Iceskull's and others Druidess' That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. What cards are you calling the "Triple Sisters"? Great Mystic, Oinari, and Fae Firstborn?
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Post by skatje on Nov 20, 2016 20:45:51 GMT
That's because those people don't rely on Triple Sisters for Triple Revive. What cards are you calling the "Triple Sisters"? Great Mystic, Oinari, and Fae Firstborn? 1x Kitsune, 2x Kumiho
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