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Post by icezaius on Jan 10, 2017 23:10:09 GMT
I just evolved one and got FA! Woooohoooo! Who needs to YOLO the melds when you can do that Yuna!? I will find you. And I will kill you. If you find me.....I feel certain you will indeed kill me!
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Post by .ruby. on Jan 10, 2017 23:38:53 GMT
Thanks to IGG's free Flare Summoner, i've cleared map 11.11 after pending for 2 weeks. Now to kill 3 Snow Harlot at guildmap 5.10 is piece of cake.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 10, 2017 23:42:51 GMT
This card has very good potential to kill the game if not nerfed. Unholy rites with rec2 Summoner and garbage sacrifice cards would be 'Game Over'.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 10, 2017 23:49:57 GMT
Maybe Titania will come back to meta
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Post by Yuna on Jan 11, 2017 0:02:06 GMT
Maybe Titania will come back to meta Except Rampart counteracts Chainstrike. She'd be inflicting less than full damage to the Flame Summoners that actually get chainstruck (as opposed to the one she hits).
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 0:19:20 GMT
Maybe Titania will come back to meta Except Rampart counteracts Chainstrike. She'd be inflicting less than full damage to the Flame Summoners that actually get chainstruck (as opposed to the one she hits). Yeah it was a joke Yuna, but scary combo with Rites remains even more terrifying. That's why the smile... Otherwise I had no problem dealing with him so far... With skill upgrade he gets retreated/locked and simply rages heroes waay too much... Can be countered if overused. However I agree with you that nerf is needed. That can be done nicely and make him double edged sword... Does his skill goes through ward This could also be both good and bad. But for certain he needs some kind of fixing.
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Post by Yuna on Jan 11, 2017 0:21:48 GMT
Hellfire/Burn does not go through Ward. It's a double-edged sword against Ward, though. It burns out Ward quickly since each activation activates ward but it also makes you lose a lot of HP very quickly because... you know, each activation activates ward.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 1:11:46 GMT
Yep seems that Druidess (who else) is the only counter to this scary combo. And given how many players amassed Summoners it will be fun I agree IGG has to do something regarding this mess. One reward card will not fix it... Fun times...
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 1:21:25 GMT
I'm also curious what would Capricorn think of it She'd be more than pissed off
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Post by justnr1k on Jan 11, 2017 1:37:09 GMT
I'm also curious what would Capricorn think of it She'd be more than pissed off LMAO XD She even slaps anyone who tries to disposal her, I'd die laughing on how a sac capricorn would slap them to death in her first turn of being summoned. Idk if her slap goes thru rampart but it'd be funny
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 1:51:09 GMT
I'm also curious what would Capricorn think of it She'd be more than pissed off LMAO XD She even slaps anyone who tries to disposal her, I'd die laughing on how a sac capricorn would slap them to death in her first turn of being summoned. Idk if her slap goes thru rampart but it'd be funny She is doing direct dmg. No way to avoid her tantrums LOL. Ramparts blocks basic dmg only.
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Post by Yuna on Jan 11, 2017 2:11:55 GMT
LMAO XD She even slaps anyone who tries to disposal her, I'd die laughing on how a sac capricorn would slap them to death in her first turn of being summoned. Idk if her slap goes thru rampart but it'd be funny She is doing direct dmg. No way to avoid her tantrums LOL. Ramparts blocks basic dmg only. Yes there is. As of the latest patch, Capricorn no longer activates Fervent if her last hit hit a creature that is Storm Warded and thus she takes damage from Storm Ward. She'll still activate Fervent for each hit from Hellfire's Burn that she takes, but you can block it with Storm Ward at no cost.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 5:00:50 GMT
She is doing direct dmg. No way to avoid her tantrums LOL. Ramparts blocks basic dmg only. Yes there is. As of the latest patch, Capricorn no longer activates Fervent if her last hit hit a creature that is Storm Warded and thus she takes damage from Storm Ward. She'll still activate Fervent for each hit from Hellfire's Burn that she takes, but you can block it with Storm Ward at no cost. Yes Yuna, exception is mighty Ward ofc. but we are talking motral decks, with focus on countering Summoner's hellfire. As a mater of fact, if we want to be complete purists lets add Granite Dragon. He can also block up to 95% of any dmg received... Summoners vs Capris are hell of fun to watch Peace.
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Post by razor on Jan 11, 2017 11:18:27 GMT
I will be a slapping marathon but summoners will win cuz of the stacking damage of hellfire
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 11:58:54 GMT
Slapping and burning incoming... Hurrrrayyy. Hopefully Warlock will clean it and stacking limited. However warded Capricorn is scary although I'm far far away from that Also they would piss off VS often to cast requiem every turn... Not so scary than as it looks like.
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Post by razor on Jan 11, 2017 16:09:31 GMT
I had a rather strange battle in my arena ....my opponent had a couple of flare summoners and a couple of rec 1 HB's My VS is level 3 and requim triggered only twice in the entire match due to his Aquarius and 1st occasion it hit both the HB's that came in together and then hit both the flare summoners who also happened to come in together The guy will be really pissed when he sees the replay
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Post by ruklo on Jan 11, 2017 18:44:44 GMT
Henrietta Cleanse and/or Warlock Prayer, removes Hellfire?
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 19:41:49 GMT
Warlock does not remove it. I also believe it will when they fix it. Not sure about Alice and Henrietas...
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Post by icezaius on Jan 11, 2017 20:53:52 GMT
Henriettas cleanse does not. Not sure abound alice but I doubt it
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 23:12:21 GMT
Just met Summoner in Gauntlet. Alice does clean Hellfire.
Creature is squishy and FB 10 Kitsune with FB rune wiped it out in 2 turns. One lock and 2 hits.
However this was gauntlet and there are no runes, it was vanila Summoner but overall seems to much fuss about nothing...
Triggered VS requiem easily as well. My Kumiho ended battle with more than 6000 health. Others much more...
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 11, 2017 23:48:35 GMT
Just met Summoner in Gauntlet. Alice does clean Hellfire. Creature is squishy and FB 10 Kitsune with FB rune wiped it out in 2 turns. One lock and 2 hits. However this was gauntlet and there are no runes, it was vanila Summoner but overall seems to much fuss about nothing... Triggered VS requiem easily as well. My Kumiho ended battle with more than 6000 health. Others much more... Not impressed so far. It is not definitely the most impressive compared to zodiacs.,. but for majority of the players based who are ftp or small investment, getting a direct damage crits is RARE... so that is the fuss whereby multi copies can be obtained from the FR event....
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 12, 2017 0:02:27 GMT
Just met Summoner in Gauntlet. Alice does clean Hellfire. Creature is squishy and FB 10 Kitsune with FB rune wiped it out in 2 turns. One lock and 2 hits. However this was gauntlet and there are no runes, it was vanila Summoner but overall seems to much fuss about nothing... Triggered VS requiem easily as well. My Kumiho ended battle with more than 6000 health. Others much more... Not impressed so far. It is not definitely the most impressive compared to zodiacs.,. but for majority of the players based who are ftp or small investment, getting a direct damage crits is RARE... so that is the fuss whereby multi copies can be obtained from the FR event.... I sign everything you say! But some top players were also part of fuss so I wondered what the hell is that fuss about. Melding revives, rec2... Btw Gauntlet is full with them. Edit: All my zodiacs came from either: Alice Bond, Faction War and Relic chest shards. I spent real monay for Alice and discounted Druidess in Momoya. So not big spender as well. Sisters from 2 years mines grind. Just to not be missunderstood. Peace.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 12, 2017 0:30:59 GMT
There is a good thing in this hellfire as of now though... With 3 casting of hell fire u prevent Aquarius from.coming out of hibernation or much much much delay that.. also whales can boost the immunity to i10... Also it provides a very important area direct damage... To date afew have that capability... Taurus, Oct,kitsune(5) soul screw (3 crits)...Anyway those guys have unlimited r2 or revive...... Like u said gauntlets if full of them... If I am a newbie level 70-80++.. getting that card FOC is only seconnd to the free mystic given by igg...I would be over the moon
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 12, 2017 0:51:59 GMT
There is a good thing in this hellfire as of now though... With 3 casting of hell fire u prevent Aquarius from.coming out of hibernation or much much much delay that.. also whales can boost the immunity to i10... Also it provides a very important area direct damage... To date afew have that capability... Taurus, Oct, soul screw (3 crits)...Anyway those guys have unlimited r2 or revive... Yep you have the point to a degree (newbie honeymoon)... I personaly can not upgrade immunity so it's out of question to be usefull to me. Regarding Warlock and Aqua we'll see what happens. Offtopic: That's why I love Kitsune bleed in combo with skill upgrade and FB10. And now with FB10 rune... Pff. Unlimted stacking not caring about immunity. Can be dodged yes but not by summoner. Worked full year like a charm. Also perfect revivers not needing recycle. Why would someone waste resources on this crit. Just for fun. And that I can accept. This is the game anyway. I might be missing something big. Maybe after sleep stuff become more clear. Thanks for explanation though! Peace.
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Post by BK✦Singing on Jan 12, 2017 1:23:11 GMT
There is a good thing in this hellfire as of now though... With 3 casting of hell fire u prevent Aquarius from.coming out of hibernation or much much much delay that.. also whales can boost the immunity to i10... Also it provides a very important area direct damage... To date afew have that capability... Taurus, Oct,kitsune(5) soul screw (3 crits)...Anyway those guys have unlimited r2 or revive...... Like u said gauntlets if full of them... If I am a newbie level 70-80++.. getting that card FOC is only seconnd to the free mystic given by igg...I would be over the moon Yes, it is the only area direct dmg I would ever imagine to get, except AB. And it is very helpful to clear explore maps and gauntlet.
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Post by Yuna on Jan 12, 2017 3:16:36 GMT
There is a good thing in this hellfire as of now though... With 3 casting of hell fire u prevent Aquarius from.coming out of hibernation or much much much delay that.. also whales can boost the immunity to i10... Also it provides a very important area direct damage... To date afew have that capability... Taurus, Oct, soul screw (3 crits)...Anyway those guys have unlimited r2 or revive... Yep you have the point to a degree (newbie honeymoon)... I personaly can not upgrade immunity so it's out of question to be usefull to me. Regarding Warlock and Aqua we'll see what happens. Offtopic: That's why I love Kitsune bleed in combo with skill upgrade and FB10. And now with FB10 rune... Pff. Unlimted stacking not caring about immunity. Can be dodged yes but not by summoner. Worked full year like a charm. Also perfect revivers not needing recycle. Why would someone waste resources on this crit. Just for fun. And that I can accept. This is the game anyway. I might be missing something big. Maybe after sleep stuff become more clear. Thanks for explanation though! Peace. Why would you need to upgrade anything on Kitsune? She doesn't have any skills that can be upgraded. Unless you mean you got Frost Blade 1 when evolving and used countless omni upgrade cards to upgrade it.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 12, 2017 6:53:38 GMT
Immunity on Summoner. No on Kitsune. I was wondering why all the fuss about this card (especially by big guys) as it seems in reality quite unimpreissive and asgarth helped me understand. As anticipated he casted once, raged VS and was wiped in 2 turns by Kitsune. I saw nothing special with that card. Alice seems to remove the status for now only anyway. If you go few posts above you'd see the context. Offtopic: The only thing to upgrade on Kitsune is FB rune
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jan 12, 2017 6:56:33 GMT
Just met Summoner in Gauntlet. Alice does clean Hellfire. Creature is squishy and FB 10 Kitsune with FB rune wiped it out in 2 turns. One lock and 2 hits. However this was gauntlet and there are no runes, it was vanila Summoner but overall seems to much fuss about nothing... Triggered VS requiem easily as well. My Kumiho ended battle with more than 6000 health. Others much more... Not impressed so far. Well, if you met it in gauntlet of course it's squishy. So is basically everything because it has no runes. FS is squishy? You mad or something? A card with immunity and fkn rampart is squishy? If you leave it with its base stats then sure, but once you buff it's hp a bit then good luck killing it without direct damage. And if you're talking direct damage then that's the leveller for all cards, that's hardly a knock for it.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 12, 2017 7:02:37 GMT
Agreed Derpy. I highlighted it was gauntlet w/o runes... Immunity seems to be low and for Kitsune he's (in gauntlet) easy meal. Rages VS a lot as well. Other direct damagers are better, just that. Asgarth helped me understand as stated above.
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Post by Yuna on Jan 12, 2017 9:45:25 GMT
Agreed Derpy. I highlighted it was gauntlet w/o runes... Immunity seems to be low and for Kitsune he's (in gauntlet) easy meal. Rages VS a lot as well. Other direct damagers are better, just that. Asgarth helped me understand as stated above. Kitsune with Frost Blade 10 and Forst Blade Rune is powerful against anyone without Dodge or immunity against Basic Damage. Of course he's weak against her, especially when not runed. There are no Direct Damagers (at least ones that inflict massive amounts of direct damage) in the game who also start out with Unbound. Literally all of them are "susceptible" to FB!Kitsune except those who start out with or are melded with Sacrifice. Flame Summoner is far from weak. Filling up the hero's rage meter quickly is not a weakness. It mean you're inflicting massive amounts of damage. Flare Summoner has a massive advantage on this front, however. All of the damage and rage he generated as Direct Damage occurs after a Hero is set cast their Hero Skill. So Heroes do things in a set pattern: Equipment Skills, Hero Skill, Hero Talents. Flare Summoner's Direct Damage is dished out after Hero Skill but before Hero Talents. So let's say the opponent is at 90% rage when Flare Summoner casts Hellfire. Flare Summoner's Turn ends, enemy's turn starts, enemy reached 100% Rage but "mid-turn", so does not cast Hero Skill during that turn. Flare Summoner's team has another turn to try to reduce enemy rage. Even if Flare Summoner fails to reduce the enemy hero's rage during that turn, that's an entire turn of "wasted" rage. The enemy hero will never get to not "waste" Rage. As an added bonus, because Hellfire's damage is inflicted before Hero Talents, it's also inflicted before enemy hero has a chance to increase max HP and heal creatures with Protection (or similar Talents).
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