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Post by near on Feb 10, 2017 21:24:48 GMT
What is the best way to farm these?
Exploring for ~ 400 Energy and only got 2. Is it just my Luck or are drop rates so bad?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 10, 2017 22:42:40 GMT
Drop rate is awful every time when this kind of event is running.Also there is some factor of luck but overal drop rate is just discusting.My advice is never to do that kind of event.
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Post by Yuna on Feb 11, 2017 2:47:01 GMT
You don't because the prizes are crap. Do Mazes instead to level up.
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Post by cozy on Feb 11, 2017 4:39:40 GMT
It's a decent way to level up Hydra if you have one. I got 10 shards today. Star plus two 40 gem energy purchases only. Generally the second tier is achievable with this level of effort. Over the course of the event I should just get 70.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 11, 2017 9:46:59 GMT
Drop rate is awful every time when this kind of event is running.Also there is some factor of luck but overal drop rate is just discusting.My advice is never to do that kind of event. I must disagree with you. or at least with this event which currently on. But this is my first time I take part in this shard collection s*** . If you check the price list Top 3: Gardian Dragon, Top 4-6: Sylvan Enchantress, Top 7-10: Sigard, Top 11-50: Sacred wolf Sacred wolf the worst rare 5* creature i can imagine. And if you are a high end player like yuna probably the rest of the creatures also mean nothing to you. So this event is not for top players that's true. But as for me Sigard worth to go for. Currently I am number 7(wanderdeer). If translate it in gems ~ 1500 so far. It's a 5 days event so if it will stay like that I will have it on tuesday for ~7500 which I don't think is that bad. If i spend just a little more I could have Sylvan Enchantress which was on sale couple of days ago for 24K if I remember correctly. But I am not interested in her. So if you compere it the original price you can have her for less than half of the price that normally costs. + you can have server rewards 20 ticket and 10 hydra shard. My main hero is hydra so for me worth a bit of investment
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 11, 2017 10:38:00 GMT
Sure mate,i understand,its your opinion. Best of luck to stay at top until the end and to get your reward
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 11, 2017 19:20:35 GMT
Sure mate,i understand,its your opinion. Best of luck to stay at top until the end and to get your reward No worries my friend I will try my best....I missed you...What is the wether like in Serbia?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 11, 2017 19:37:15 GMT
Sure mate,i understand,its your opinion. Best of luck to stay at top until the end and to get your reward No worries my friend I will try my best....I missed you...What is the wether like in Serbia? cold and windy,around 10 degree...but i like winter more than summer
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 13, 2017 1:12:53 GMT
Drop rate is awful every time when this kind of event is running.Also there is some factor of luck but overal drop rate is just discusting.My advice is never to do that kind of event. I must disagree with you. or at least with this event which currently on. But this is my first time I take part in this shard collection s*** . If you check the price list Top 3: Gardian Dragon, Top 4-6: Sylvan Enchantress, Top 7-10: Sigard, Top 11-50: Sacred wolf Sacred wolf the worst rare 5* creature i can imagine. And if you are a high end player like yuna probably the rest of the creatures also mean nothing to you. So this event is not for top players that's true. But as for me Sigard worth to go for. Currently I am number 7(wanderdeer). If translate it in gems ~ 1500 so far. It's a 5 days event so if it will stay like that I will have it on tuesday for ~7500 which I don't think is that bad. If i spend just a little more I could have Sylvan Enchantress which was on sale couple of days ago for 24K if I remember correctly. But I am not interested in her. So if you compere it the original price you can have her for less than half of the price that normally costs. + you can have server rewards 20 ticket and 10 hydra shard. My main hero is hydra so for me worth a bit of investment With the exception of a shard event that has a top end prize like druidess, the shard events tend to be close to these gem economics you are posting. Those mid level prizes, like Sigurd in this case, are ones that you can expect to pay about 5000-8000 gems for what is mostly a very rare 5 star card. For many of us star or f2p accounts, it's a good deal. But yes, the key is avoiding shard events that have prizes that attract too much whale attention. Good luck on the Sigurd bro!
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 14:02:37 GMT
Thanks,
I have managed to get a sigurd eventually. I must say it's a very decent creature. it's really good for not just mid game I believe. A FA or a dodge meld is definitely required for end game.
I think my success to go through map 13 and reach 14/2 it was partly because of him. His ice veil skill is really handy. Saved my a** many times. It got a decent attack as well with bullseye. The only drawback is his defence which is not existing. I have spent just over 10k gems to get him but no regret. If I see him I would go for him again. That's for sure.
What do you think dodge or FA would be better on him?
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Post by monkeylord on Feb 23, 2017 14:33:11 GMT
Thanks, I have managed to get a sigurd eventually. I must say it's a very decent creature. it's really good for not just mid game I believe. A FA or a dodge meld is definitely required for end game. I think my success to go through map 13 and reach 14/2 it was partly because of him. His ice veil skill is really handy. Saved my a** many times. It got a decent attack as well with bullseye. The only drawback is his defence which is not existing. I have spent just over 10k gems to get him but no regret. If I see him I would go for him again. That's for sure. What do you think dodge or FA would be better on him? neither, immunity
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 14:44:55 GMT
Thanks, I have managed to get a sigurd eventually. I must say it's a very decent creature. it's really good for not just mid game I believe. A FA or a dodge meld is definitely required for end game. I think my success to go through map 13 and reach 14/2 it was partly because of him. His ice veil skill is really handy. Saved my a** many times. It got a decent attack as well with bullseye. The only drawback is his defence which is not existing. I have spent just over 10k gems to get him but no regret. If I see him I would go for him again. That's for sure. What do you think dodge or FA would be better on him? neither, immunity I really would like to argue with you but....again you are monkeylord. so you must be right. BUT.... why immunity?? What about direct damage? you must know something which i dont
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Post by xychant on Feb 23, 2017 16:17:05 GMT
I really would like to argue with you but....again you are monkeylord. so you must be right. BUT.... why immunity?? What about direct damage? you must know something which i dont to protect it mainly from rqt. fa is good in earlier stages but then again in midgame you see lots of disposals. also later fa is less important cause aoe direct dmg skills are a huge dmg source fa helps nothing against it and the big hardhitters are bullseye anyway. taurus, octavius, soulshrew, scorpio and so all ignore your fa with their aoe abilities. so immu 9 y. also high lvl immunity rune heals for a lot of hp. dmg is bad anyway and his main purpose is lockdown and cc assistance anyways.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 17:43:21 GMT
I really would like to argue with you but....again you are monkeylord. so you must be right. BUT.... why immunity?? What about direct damage? you must know something which i dont to protect it mainly from rqt. fa is good in earlier stages but then again in midgame you see lots of disposals. also later fa is less important cause aoe direct dmg skills are a huge dmg source fa helps nothing against it and the big hardhitters are bullseye anyway. taurus, octavius, soulshrew, scorpio and so all ignore your fa with their aoe abilities. so immu 9 y. also high lvl immunity rune heals for a lot of hp. dmg is bad anyway and his main purpose is lockdown and cc assistance anyways. Fair enough what you said BUT....how many RQT is in your deck? Taurus, octavios, soulshrew, scorpio and so on all ignore immunity as well. And what about direct damage?
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Post by xychant on Feb 23, 2017 17:45:59 GMT
dont have any yet. but im farming them. most have 2 rtq.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 23, 2017 18:20:43 GMT
to protect it mainly from rqt. fa is good in earlier stages but then again in midgame you see lots of disposals. also later fa is less important cause aoe direct dmg skills are a huge dmg source fa helps nothing against it and the big hardhitters are bullseye anyway. taurus, octavius, soulshrew, scorpio and so all ignore your fa with their aoe abilities. so immu 9 y. also high lvl immunity rune heals for a lot of hp. dmg is bad anyway and his main purpose is lockdown and cc assistance anyways. Fair enough what you said BUT....how many RQT is in your deck? Taurus, octavios, soulshrew, scorpio and so on all ignore immunity as well. And what about direct damage? Direct damage ignores both Immunity AND attack defense skills. Since your creature has a skill that does defend physical attacks ( ice veil), I think Immunity would protect him from more overall attacks then what frost armor would give him. However, having said that, frost armor/Rampart would help ensure far less damage on the average, which is a plus over immunity. In the end, lasting longer on the board is good from an armor perspective. But all it takes is one death/retreat attack, and he is gone for a minimum of 6 rounds if you don't have revive. A final thought, is if your deck has a lot of recycle > revive, then you don't want your cards getting killed as much, because recycle REALLY slows your game play down in tourney ranks 300 and less VS guys who revive more than recycle. In conclusion, my personal opinion would be both are good, but I'd say 60/40 in favor of immunity.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 23, 2017 18:24:54 GMT
Thanks, I have managed to get a sigurd eventually. I must say it's a very decent creature. it's really good for not just mid game I believe. A FA or a dodge meld is definitely required for end game. I think my success to go through map 13 and reach 14/2 it was partly because of him. His ice veil skill is really handy. Saved my a** many times. It got a decent attack as well with bullseye. The only drawback is his defence which is not existing. I have spent just over 10k gems to get him but no regret. If I see him I would go for him again. That's for sure. What do you think dodge or FA would be better on him? Also. I got a sacred Wolf and dropped 1500 gems. That's not much more than 2 booster packs worth. That's a bit of a better price than 32,000 on that lame value pack. Lol!
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 18:25:19 GMT
dont have any yet. but im farming them. most have 2 rtq. Sorry, i didn't mean it that way. When I said it... I meant how many RQT do you see in one deck. 1 or 2. so, why would I meld Immunity on Sigurd? Just to block RQT? For me it just doesn't make much sense. I might be wrong though.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 18:42:36 GMT
Fair enough what you said BUT....how many RQT is in your deck? Taurus, octavios, soulshrew, scorpio and so on all ignore immunity as well. And what about direct damage? Direct damage ignores both Immunity AND attack defense skills. Since your creature has a skill that does defend physical attacks ( ice veil), I think Immunity would protect him from more overall attacks then what frost armor would give him. However, having said that, frost armor/Rampart would help ensure far less damage on the average, which is a plus over immunity. In the end, lasting longer on the board is good from an armor perspective. But all it takes is one death/retreat attack, and he is gone for a minimum of 6 rounds if you don't have revive. A final thought, is if your deck has a lot of recycle > revive, then you don't want your cards getting killed as much, because recycle REALLY slows your game play down in tourney ranks 300 and less VS guys who revive more than recycle. In conclusion, my personal opinion would be both are good, but I'd say 60/40 in favor of immunity. When you said Ice veil is defensive skill yes you are right, but.....it's a completely different from FA or Rampart . You HAVE TO get hit to activate it and which enemy creature will be frozen....you don't know it is random. And I am thinking if you have immunity which blocks some attack completely then ice veil might not activated either. I am not sure but i can imagine.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 23, 2017 19:08:08 GMT
dont have any yet. but im farming them. most have 2 rtq. Sorry, i didn't mean it that way. When I said it... I meant how many RQT do you see in one deck. 1 or 2. so, why would I meld Immunity on Sigurd? Just to block RQT? For me it just doesn't make much sense. I might be wrong though. If you look at your top arena, and the top tourney, the formula for decks are 2-3 RQT's, and now geomancer. RQT's are replaced on a 1-1 basis by Aquarius generally speaking. I personally find I don't face less than 2 retreats in any given deck, at higher level play.
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Post by xychant on Feb 23, 2017 19:13:21 GMT
another problem sigurd probably is not often found in high level tourney, because icevail and forstblade triggers immunity. if an enemy have immunity rune he gets healed alot and also no frost on him. so with that skill nearly useless he is left alone with bullseye and relatively weak bb6.
michael, anathema and pitdragon will surpass him then.
nonless in midgame he is I guess rly nice. can help with a magic based team. and with ice shield from hero he will survive at least a few rounds. and even if he dies, iceveil last 2 rounds.
midgame the biggest threat is disposal or instakill.
i tell you even 1rtq can ruin a whole game for you. qt alone if she hits a safe position can turn the tide. rtq even more. even more then a rec or sometimes paragon affects your game. also of she retreats you. does not even trigger iceveil.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 19:47:51 GMT
another problem sigurd probably is not often found in high level tourney, because icevail and forstblade triggers immunity. if an enemy have immunity rune he gets healed alot and also no frost on him. so with that skill nearly useless he is left alone with bullseye and relatively weak bb6. michael, anathema and pitdragon will surpass him then. nonless in midgame he is I guess rly nice. can help with a magic based team. and with ice shield from hero he will survive at least a few rounds. and even if he dies, iceveil last 2 rounds. midgame the biggest threat is disposal or instakill. i tell you even 1rtq can ruin a whole game for you. qt alone if she hits a safe position can turn the tide. rtq even more. even more then a rec or sometimes paragon affects your game. also of she retreats you. does not even trigger iceveil. I can confirm that ice veil doesn't trigger immunity. I don't know about frost blade though....better if i check it
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Post by xychant on Feb 23, 2017 20:05:09 GMT
clearly a bug then. immunity decription sais negates all effects of talents and skills. then we know igg for its precision.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 20:05:10 GMT
I have checked it in combat. (map 13/4) lots of immunity equipped with rune. And neither ice veil or frost blade can be negated by immunity. only by unbound
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 23, 2017 20:11:57 GMT
clearly a bug then. immunity decription sais negates all effects of talents and skills. then we know igg for its precision. if you think this way, hellfire or impale cannot be negated by immunity. Frost blade from aqurius cannot be negated by immunity. So ice veil neither. Bug or not....this is the way it is.
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Post by xychant on Feb 23, 2017 20:19:46 GMT
clearly a bug then. immunity decription sais negates all effects of talents and skills. then we know igg for its precision. if you think this way, hellfire or impale cannot be negated by immunity. Frost blade from aqurius cannot be negated by immunity. So ice veil neither. Bug or not....this is the way it is. it sais it does not ignore direct dmg.
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 23, 2017 21:07:30 GMT
Either way I'm sure we can all agree sigurd is a pretty good card
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Post by monkeylord on Feb 24, 2017 21:28:53 GMT
Retreat queen is still a boss, and siguard is a nice way to remove them if it has immunity. Shrew does not go though fa btw. It's also nice to avoid random lockdown effects like delay, tempest, deathgaze, etc. Fa and dodge also make you a bit more vulnerable to bullseye rune. But really the main problem is retreat. I like 8+ immunity dudes in most decks unless I've got bot lucidity and divine shield as talents. Possibly 1 less if I run a kumiho too. Less than that and you start to become vulnerable to qt. Between dodge and fa I'd take fa for Sig, mostly because of the flurry ability.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Feb 24, 2017 22:33:19 GMT
Dodge is terrible for sigurd. Immunity is best meld by a mile. FA ok for midgame.
Also sacred Wolf isn't bad at all for grimoire. Very useful in fact, could make a royal guard deck effortless. That alone makes it worthwhile.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Feb 24, 2017 23:45:43 GMT
Frost blade does not proc immunity. Immunity is best meld for any card that does not have base immunity unless it is a dmg dealer. Even then, for some immunity is still best meld.
Current meta has minimum 2 qt unless you have aquarius.
2x revive (on direct dmger) 1x recycle (on direct dmger) 2x aqua 1x torment 1x qt 3 assholes (sac+direct dmg or bullseye)
Instakill disposal decks suck. They have theit place and that at lvl 75.
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