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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 25, 2017 12:01:57 GMT
I am trying to set up a dedicated deck for making big damage. I need a hero with battle cry+war hungry/Berserk. I have two reasonable choice in my mind. Odin or Bladmaster.
Blademaster skill is very tempting. Does it apply in gm as well? Because 20% health there is a lot. and it's level 1. and its quite easy to farm
I don't think Odin is bad at all for this purpose. (and i have 65 shards of him) His skill make max 2000 damage and reduces the max hp which can be very handy.
Any suggestion or idea?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 12:15:21 GMT
Odin is great for gm damage, his skill can stun enemies to gm. Blademaster never tried don't know if his skill works on gm (olso for Oceanus?). Maybe someone can confirm.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Feb 25, 2017 12:21:02 GMT
Blademaster is 10x better than Odin. That's all.
If you're going to dedicate a hero put effort into BM, it's super strong at higher levels.
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Post by barleylime on Feb 25, 2017 12:23:44 GMT
Blademaster is 10x better than Odin. That's all. If you're going to dedicate a hero put effort into BM, it's super strong at higher levels. Why do I see many more Armageddon and so few Blademaster in Tourney if BM is stronger than Arma.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 25, 2017 12:50:31 GMT
Blademaster is 10x better than Odin. That's all. If you're going to dedicate a hero put effort into BM, it's super strong at higher levels. Why do I see many more Armageddon and so few Blademaster in Tourney if BM is stronger than Arma. you forgot one thing. I was asking people's advice on a special hero to make as many damage as it possible in one go
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Feb 25, 2017 12:52:15 GMT
Blademaster is 10x better than Odin. That's all. If you're going to dedicate a hero put effort into BM, it's super strong at higher levels. Why do I see many more Armageddon and so few Blademaster in Tourney if BM is stronger than Arma. Wut? I never said it was better than Armageddon. That being said a lv10 BM might be better than lv 10 Armageddon, but low levels Arma is better. BM needs far more deck specialism too.
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Feb 25, 2017 12:54:41 GMT
i use odin as warhungry / berserk. Because odins hero skill isnt cleared by mantra. And has 40 % chance to stun enemy creatures. WIth BB8 graboid, BB8 michael, FA michael, sac8 graboid and saggitarius - i can do up to 1 200 000 damage in two/ three rounds. I plan to record it and put in youtube.. I want use blademaster in tourney soon. So far lvl 1.. .)
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Post by icezaius on Feb 25, 2017 12:57:38 GMT
For big GM damage I would go with Odin for b/wh combo. Blademaster actually has a use elsewhere cause he can be really good once he's levelled a bit. Odin not so much. Unless you are happy with your current 3 tourney heroes and neither of these is going to replace them, in which case I would say just use whichever you can get cheapest/easiest cause its not worth sinking huge resources into.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 25, 2017 13:02:07 GMT
i use odin as warhungry / berserk. Because odins hero skill isnt cleared by mantra. And has 40 % chance to stun enemy creatures. WIth BB8 graboid, BB8 michael, FA michael, sac8 graboid and saggitarius - i can do up to 1 200 000 damage in two/ three rounds. I plan to record it and put in youtube.. I want use blademaster in tourney soon. So far lvl 1.. .) you know what....I was hoping this because I heard odin skill can go through druidess storm ward as well. Bug or not bug... I think IGG meant it like that. That's a very good selling point. and please share videos on youtube about your tactic. I would love to see them. But BM skill at level 10: 800 damage + istakills creatures with less than 38% health. In a guild map...is still very respectful
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Feb 25, 2017 13:07:44 GMT
i use odin as warhungry / berserk. Because odins hero skill isnt cleared by mantra. And has 40 % chance to stun enemy creatures. WIth BB8 graboid, BB8 michael, FA michael, sac8 graboid and saggitarius - i can do up to 1 200 000 damage in two/ three rounds. I plan to record it and put in youtube.. I want use blademaster in tourney soon. So far lvl 1.. .) you know what....I was hoping this because I heard odin skill can go through druidess storm ward as well. Bug or not bug... I think IGG meant it like that. That's a very good selling point. and please share videos on youtube about your tactic. I would love to see them. Yes, he goes through. But not sure if its bug or not. Yeah, i will try to make it soon with help of equipment - sword (20 % to activate) and warhungry (100%) + berserk(75%) + bb9(50%) + warlust(100%) + battlecry(100%) - sometimes when all activates, it does one shot over 180 000 damage :-) and same with BB8 graboid. up to 3x 132 000. Saggi just 20 000 + 2x 25 000 his skill direct damage..
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 25, 2017 13:21:29 GMT
you know what....I was hoping this because I heard odin skill can go through druidess storm ward as well. Bug or not bug... I think IGG meant it like that. That's a very good selling point. and please share videos on youtube about your tactic. I would love to see them. Yes, he goes through. But not sure if its bug or not. Yeah, i will try to make it soon with help of equipment - sword (20 % to activate) and warhungry (100%) + berserk(75%) + bb9(50%) + warlust(100%) + battlecry(100%) - sometimes when all activates, it does one shot over 180 000 damage :-) and same with BB8 graboid. up to 3x 132 000. Saggi just 20 000 + 2x 25 000 his skill direct damage.. And I like your avatar....brother
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Feb 25, 2017 13:31:56 GMT
Yes, he goes through. But not sure if its bug or not. Yeah, i will try to make it soon with help of equipment - sword (20 % to activate) and warhungry (100%) + berserk(75%) + bb9(50%) + warlust(100%) + battlecry(100%) - sometimes when all activates, it does one shot over 180 000 damage :-) and same with BB8 graboid. up to 3x 132 000. Saggi just 20 000 + 2x 25 000 his skill direct damage.. And I like your avatar....brother oh, didnt noticed it cool, bro i like yours as well But on topic - i just managed to record one shot Spirit siren in GM with 191 K health with my BB8 michael. Wait for it..
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 25, 2017 14:11:28 GMT
Thanks for the video. Couple of questions, how come that you made a hit of 191842 with Michael in one go when it clearly says attack: 98524 ??
Also, can you set up your hero with two war hungry instead of berserk+ war hungry?
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Post by xychant on Feb 25, 2017 14:23:41 GMT
Thanks for the video. Couple of questions, how come that you made a hit of 191842 with Michael in one go when it clearly says attack: 98524 ?? Also, can you set up your hero with two war hungry instead of berserk+ war hungry? does tze instkill from bm rly apply in gm? and y his skill dmg is capped at 1k. that is the reason he went so unpopular, noneless pretty dope on high levels. it is only the base dmg. i guess the bb dmg comes from odin skill. i think the dmg would be even higher but the spiritsiren did not had that many life left. and y. in a big guild such a huge dmg is not that good. you want as many guys hit on the stage for most points for everyone. in smaller ones it is nice:)
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Feb 25, 2017 14:23:45 GMT
Thanks for the video. Couple of questions, how come that you made a hit of 191842 with Michael in one go when it clearly says attack: 98524 ?? Also, can you set up your hero with two war hungry instead of berserk+ war hungry? I think you can have only one times certain skill. That hit is because of equipment. It says attack 98 524 and without further notice it does double damage (my sword is about 20% chance to activate.. )
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Feb 25, 2017 14:27:49 GMT
Thanks for the video. Couple of questions, how come that you made a hit of 191842 with Michael in one go when it clearly says attack: 98524 ?? Also, can you set up your hero with two war hungry instead of berserk+ war hungry? does tze instkill from bm rly apply in gm? and y his skill dmg is capped at 1k. that is the reason he went so unpopular, noneless pretty dope on high levels. it is only the base dmg. i guess the bb dmg comes from odin skill. i think the dmg would be even higher but the spiritsiren did not had that many life left. and y. in a big guild such a huge dmg is not that good. you want as many guys hit on the stage for most points for everyone. in smaller ones it is nice:) I am in my own guild with two friends. So i need as much damage per hit as possible.. .)
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Post by tom on Feb 27, 2017 15:42:33 GMT
The reason you seem or Armageddon then Blademaster and tournament . . is because that game has had Armageddon around longer and a his shards were obtained through trials long before blade master existed . . Furthermore I think the trials still drops more Armageddon shards than the Blade Master but I'm not certain of that
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Post by sharvinthakkar on Feb 27, 2017 20:09:48 GMT
you know what....I was hoping this because I heard odin skill can go through druidess storm ward as well. Bug or not bug... I think IGG meant it like that. That's a very good selling point. and please share videos on youtube about your tactic. I would love to see them. Yes, he goes through. But not sure if its bug or not. Yeah, i will try to make it soon with help of equipment - sword (20 % to activate) and warhungry (100%) + berserk(75%) + bb9(50%) + warlust(100%) + battlecry(100%) - sometimes when all activates, it does one shot over 180 000 damage :-) and same with BB8 graboid. up to 3x 132 000. Saggi just 20 000 + 2x 25 000 his skill direct damage.. I use this same strategy and it works very well. 3 Michael BB8 and 2 melded graboids does the trick for me.
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Post by BlackTone on Feb 27, 2017 21:01:23 GMT
Hi ℒ✰Deer I noticed your other post recently: deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/7352/shot-legI'll throw out some other considerations, would hate for you to go all-in on building a good GM damage deck and then realize you may have shot yourself in the leg again. A Guild Map deck is important to help consistent gold farming. There is a cap on the gold you can receive per attack $500k, meaning any damage over 100k damage gives you the same gold. If anything, I would use my crappiest 5 star hero as my GM deck for now, putting on Battlecry/Berserk/Warlust (level 7+ each) on any 5 star hero, you can easily get at least 100k damage and consistent gold income. Another reason is, if you put these abilities on a hero you actually like, these abilities are far less effective together anywhere else in the game, like Arena and Tournament battles. Another important consideration, do you already have both heroes or would you need to use your resources to get them? If Odin is your only 5 star hero, I would make him your GM hero, and save your ore for VS. If you already have both, probably make one your GM hero and use the other one elsewhere in the game.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 27, 2017 23:10:49 GMT
Thanks Blacktone for your advice. I know what you are saying regarding the gold reward in guild maps. there is no difference if i make 1m dmg or 100k dmg. But that's not the point that motivates me. At the moment I can do around 100k dmg. Sometimes less sometimes more. My personal goal is to be able to make about 1m dmg effortlessly. It doesn't mean i want to do it every time. I just want to be able to do it when it's necessary. Whatever the guild needs to keep the balance right. The reason behind this thought is, I am not sure if you have ever been in a guild where the progress was so sloooooow that eventually you had to leave the guild. I've been there actually many times and it's really really frustrating. But hopefully it will be over when finally can join to my next one....oh yeaahh. At the moment I have only Hydra as a hero. But VS is not far away (2 more weeks or max3). But I don't want to use her in GM. For guild maps I have two different deck idea in my mind. 1. A hit and die deck with lots battleblow, warlust bullseye combo with 5-6 creatures. And a hero that can make a good damage in one go. Something like m4rt1n1 shared with us in this thread. For this the reasonable choice is Odin or Blademaster. I think I will go for odin. I have already got 64 Odin shards and it doesn't need to be leveled up (not like BM). + Mantra doesn't cleans his skill. (but i am still wandering what BM can do at level 10 in guild maps) 2. Survival deck with lot's of oracle, frost armor etc. Zora Marauder or Predator as a hero. For this I need a lots of farming and melding which will take time. In my previous thread what you mentioned I was complaining about my own stupidity that i went so far in clearing maps and neglected some basic thing like melding. Now i am concentrating on basic melds like FA Oracle. So I would like to have two different dedicated deck for only guild maps. If you have any suggestion, idea feel free to make a comment.
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Post by Yuna on Feb 28, 2017 0:37:38 GMT
Blademaster is 10x better than Odin. That's all. If you're going to dedicate a hero put effort into BM, it's super strong at higher levels. Why do I see many more Armageddon and so few Blademaster in Tourney if BM is stronger than Arma. What tournament ranks are you at? Armageddon is more common in the lower ranks because the lower ranks are populated mostly by F2P players and people's F2P or near-F2P alts. Also, Blademaster was originally much weaker than he is today, receiving a huge buff less than a year ago. Back then, Vile Songstress also was not available. So, at the time, Armageddon was one of the best Ore Mall heroes. But you very seldom see Armageddon used in the higher ranks today because of all of the things I just mentioned.
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Post by sharvinthakkar on Feb 28, 2017 3:20:06 GMT
Hi ℒ✰Deer I noticed your other post recently: deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/7352/shot-legI'll throw out some other considerations, would hate for you to go all-in on building a good GM damage deck and then realize you may have shot yourself in the leg again. A Guild Map deck is important to help consistent gold farming. There is a cap on the gold you can receive per attack $500k, meaning any damage over 100k damage gives you the same gold. If anything, I would use my crappiest 5 star hero as my GM deck for now, putting on Battlecry/Berserk/Warlust (level 7+ each) on any 5 star hero, you can easily get at least 100k damage and consistent gold income. Another reason is, if you put these abilities on a hero you actually like, these abilities are far less effective together anywhere else in the game, like Arena and Tournament battles. Another important consideration, do you already have both heroes or would you need to use your resources to get them? If Odin is your only 5 star hero, I would make him your GM hero, and save your ore for VS. If you already have both, probably make one your GM hero and use the other one elsewhere in the game. In short he is in solo guild and he need to hit hard for 3-4 good players to finish a map in a week.And get 30 shards a day so all can collect.
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Post by barleylime on Feb 28, 2017 10:23:13 GMT
Why do I see many more Armageddon and so few Blademaster in Tourney if BM is stronger than Arma. What tournament ranks are you at? Armageddon is more common in the lower ranks because the lower ranks are populated mostly by F2P players and people's F2P or near-F2P alts. Also, Blademaster was originally much weaker than he is today, receiving a huge buff less than a year ago. Back then, Vile Songstress also was not available. So, at the time, Armageddon was one of the best Ore Mall heroes. But you very seldom see Armageddon used in the higher ranks today because of all of the things I just mentioned. I am between 400 to 600 in Tourney. I barely see any Blademaster.
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Post by razor on Feb 28, 2017 12:32:44 GMT
Well I think the problem with blademaster is that it needs levels and a good deck to click on but once these two requirements are met he can kick some serious a** The reason you see more Armageddons is that they are easier to farm and don't really need levelling ....lvl 1-3 is enough .....also many people use arma as a second hero cuz of deathless as everybody doesn't have many recycles and revives to build 3 strong decks .....arma with 1-2 recycles and undying can still hold his own at times and this is a region where blade master lags If u want to build your 1st deck as a blade master deck its a cool hero but if you wanna build a second deck and don't wanna spend a lot of time farming a lot of shards then arma is hands down the best choice available Also arma is great right out of the box and is very beginner friendly so a lot of players choose him as their 1st 5* hero I think its a combination of these factors that make arma a more prevelant choice than blademaster in the tourney ranks Also to the original question For PvP and dungeons blade master is a superb hero provided u put a little effort in deck building But for GM damage Odin is the king I run a war hungry and berserk Odin deck in guild maps and even in full auto I consistently hit 300k-500k damage depending on maps and I don't even use specialised guild map decks ...just random fun decks or casual experimental decks
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 28, 2017 13:14:24 GMT
My main deck is a lvl 5 BM and it isn't really that amazing. I actually told myself that I should have gotten the other ore heroes instead of him but look, here are some pros and cons. Pros -Really insane field wipeout at high levels. -Great damager at high levels
Cons - can build your opponents rage quite fast. - if skill casts early, chances of a meh damage and no wipeouts. - bad talents - needs a really dedicated deck with burns and KQ combos. - if opponent has high hp creatures, not very good.
BTW the instakill dont take effect in GM.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Feb 28, 2017 13:48:39 GMT
Thanks for your comment it really helped.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 28, 2017 13:50:34 GMT
Thanks for your comment it really helped. you can add me in-game to test my weak deck.
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Post by xychant on Feb 28, 2017 13:56:40 GMT
it may be luck or not but so far blademasters mostly between lvl4-6 get 80-90% beaten by my oceanus lvl 3. wight also wins more and with berserker as comparison it is around 50/50. I mean i saw some crazy activatons where he killed 9 guys at once but it is like a 50meter shot goal. cool to watch, quiet rare and does not win the match.
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