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Post by rembrandt78 on Mar 31, 2017 14:31:19 GMT
With high insight and card insurance and all that . or will I just be disapointed
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Mar 31, 2017 14:36:01 GMT
With high insight and card insurance and all that . or will I just be disapointed Some people burn their gems once and get their desired result but others sometimes burn up to 15k gems without getting the result they wanted.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Mar 31, 2017 15:52:20 GMT
With high insight and card insurance and all that . or will I just be disapointed you will be disapointed
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Post by moonshaker on Mar 31, 2017 16:01:22 GMT
I only got lady bloom after so many attempts. Don't waste gems on it. Use it if you lot of spare 4 stars.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Mar 31, 2017 16:12:08 GMT
I would just keep saving my copies of material until you bonds are at a good spot. Then start going for what you want. I have blown copies in the past and ran out without getting anything. So far I have gotten kitsune, kumiho, and Easter bunny on main, and lady bloom on my alt. I have never used insight. It would be cheaper to just get a good stockpile of gems and protect cards you don't have alot of go without insight multiple times. You could try with 4 creatures protected 2-1 vs not protecting creatures and using insight.
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Post by rembrandt78 on Mar 31, 2017 23:19:37 GMT
Was going for arcane knight. Had 7 copies of each except the flame brave.on the last try I insureded all copies 4 times..ALL for a bunch bloody lords pale dragons and of couple of oracles and one Q T. No knight..
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 1, 2017 3:41:43 GMT
I don't pay for insight or protect cards, just use up extras. So far, axe warden, 2 Easter bunny, dahlia, and archdeva with this method.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 1, 2017 8:18:29 GMT
Same here with less reward though. I used to burn gems for transmutation until I got Lady bloom at first attempt with no insight or protection. After that I think it is not a bad event to burn all my mammoth riders. Even if the transmutation fails I can get some rare or useful 4*. Just remember one thing, use as less gem as it possible and you won't be disappointed.
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Post by icezaius on Apr 3, 2017 0:17:51 GMT
I don't pay for insight or protect cards, just use up extras. So far, axe warden, 2 Easter bunny, dahlia, and archdeva with this method. same strategy here. I've gotten a bunny, Lady Bloom, and a Mimir. Also a few decent 4 stars including a QT and a Twins.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 3, 2017 6:53:49 GMT
I don't pay for insight or protect cards, just use up extras. So far, axe warden, 2 Easter bunny, dahlia, and archdeva with this method. the inly reason I mention protecting cards is because of kumiho. She uses gem locked 4stars.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 3, 2017 8:51:00 GMT
I don't pay for insight or protect cards, just use up extras. So far, axe warden, 2 Easter bunny, dahlia, and archdeva with this method. the inly reason I mention protecting cards is because of kumiho. She uses gem locked 4stars. She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now?
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Post by monkeylord on Apr 3, 2017 11:34:14 GMT
the inly reason I mention protecting cards is because of kumiho. She uses gem locked 4stars. She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now? The only way I've got a prima donna for a long time has been failed transmutes. I think they should allow us to use four star meld cards.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 3, 2017 12:27:01 GMT
She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now? The only way I've got a prima donna for a long time has been failed transmutes. I think they should allow us to use four star meld cards. Yah. I got 1 or 2 from failed Transmutation, but a year ago, there was a short period of time where she was actually available for purchase as one of those daily deal things (you could buy 2 different packs, each of which contained 3 of the 4 creatures need to Transmute either Kumiho or Kitsune. I bought 3 for Kumiho and thank Goodness I did). It's just weird how rare they've made Prima Donna yet Transmutation keeps coming back so often.
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Post by kinghits on Apr 3, 2017 12:28:24 GMT
i planned to use protection and high insight cause i only have 1 copy of each creature for the arcane knight transmution. and ill use any useless creature for 5th creature. i think arcane knight is worth it.
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Post by kinghits on Apr 3, 2017 13:04:38 GMT
i planned to use protection and high insight cause i only have 1 copy of each creature for the arcane knight transmution. and ill use any useless creature for 5th creature. i think arcane knight is worth it. I was just thinking about what i said earlier is it better to farm copies and protect 1 card (flame brave) for the arcane knight card if it better by copies how much copies should i farm and use no insight.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 3, 2017 13:14:57 GMT
Well...as much as you can. You need a lot's of luck to pull it first or second attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 13:16:35 GMT
the inly reason I mention protecting cards is because of kumiho. She uses gem locked 4stars. She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now? I think in Valhalla you can only gather shards from crits that you own(ed). I never got a Wolveria and now wondering how to get one. Fortunately for me Prima Donna dropped in the mines once.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Apr 3, 2017 13:34:26 GMT
She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now? I think in Valhalla you can only gather shards from crits that you own(ed). I never got a Wolveria and now wondering how to get one. Fortunately for me Prima Donna dropped in the mines once. it's only if you've ever owned it AND got it to lvl 10.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 3, 2017 13:34:37 GMT
That's way I like transmutation. When it fails you get high chance to get some rare 4* cards like Wolveria.
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Post by kinghits on Apr 3, 2017 14:00:31 GMT
im hearing alot of stories of people failing 80-100s transmutation they even spent 1000s of gem on protection and insight and still havnt got their desired card from transmutation...they say beware igg scammers
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:58:01 GMT
Can you give a summary of the conclusion? -EDIT- Checked it myself: 3x transmutation on high insight and all protected. Average hitrate: 6,25%. I guess IGG uses a hitrate like: - 1% none, 2% low, 4% medium, 6% high but that is just my guess. Note. Easter Bunny gave the 5 star already after 7 turns, but the 4-star cards when failed, were bad. Axe Warden and Lord Bones took: 17 and 24 turns, but gave more often rare 4-star cards when failed.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Apr 3, 2017 15:23:16 GMT
Somebody did it for me in another thread. I am going to quote it:
"Average success rate: (17 + 24 + 7) / 3 = 19, cost = 19 * 1450 = 27550 So roughly 28k gem per rare creature, same as the mystics sale price. See, IGG isn't dumb, all these prices do have their reasons."
But as it has been said, you don't need spend on insight you can still succeed.
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Post by kotta on Apr 3, 2017 15:56:12 GMT
She uses a 4-star creature I'm pretty sure there's no way of procuring through normal play. Wolveria shards are only obtainable through Valhalla through normal play, but Prima Donna is unavailable through normal play and it hasn't been up for sale for, what, a year now? I think in Valhalla you can only gather shards from crits that you own(ed). I never got a Wolveria and now wondering how to get one. Fortunately for me Prima Donna dropped in the mines once. I've got 1 wolveria from failed transmutation and around 8 shards from last primal rift.
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Post by razor on Apr 3, 2017 17:29:19 GMT
The only way I've got a prima donna for a long time has been failed transmutes. I think they should allow us to use four star meld cards. Yah. I got 1 or 2 from failed Transmutation, but a year ago, there was a short period of time where she was actually available for purchase as one of those daily deal things (you could buy 2 different packs, each of which contained 3 of the 4 creatures need to Transmute either Kumiho or Kitsune. I bought 3 for Kumiho and thank Goodness I did). It's just weird how rare they've made Prima Donna yet Transmutation keeps coming back so often. I finished a prima donna from primal rifts Thanks for the heads up ....will not burn her for a useless try
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Post by spizz0 on Apr 3, 2017 17:35:30 GMT
I do have 2 prima donna but I don't remember where I got them.. maybe full drops from mines
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Post by Koloi on Apr 3, 2017 19:44:26 GMT
I do have 2 prima donna but I don't remember where I got them.. maybe full drops from mines Yeah, most likely. Got one from mine. 2nd mine is giving shards of Prima Donna and Wolveria iirc.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 4, 2017 3:13:03 GMT
I do have 2 prima donna but I don't remember where I got them.. maybe full drops from mines Yeah, most likely. Got one from mine. 2nd mine is giving shards of Prima Donna and Wolveria iirc. I did not know that. So there IS a source in normal play for her.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 4, 2017 3:13:17 GMT
Yah. I got 1 or 2 from failed Transmutation, but a year ago, there was a short period of time where she was actually available for purchase as one of those daily deal things (you could buy 2 different packs, each of which contained 3 of the 4 creatures need to Transmute either Kumiho or Kitsune. I bought 3 for Kumiho and thank Goodness I did). It's just weird how rare they've made Prima Donna yet Transmutation keeps coming back so often. I finished a prima donna from primal rifts Thanks for the heads up ....will not burn her for a useless try I mean, it's all she's good for. I'd use protection though.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 4, 2017 3:19:39 GMT
I think in Valhalla you can only gather shards from crits that you own(ed). I never got a Wolveria and now wondering how to get one. Fortunately for me Prima Donna dropped in the mines once. it's only if you've ever owned it AND got it to lvl 10. Pretty sure I never leveled up any of my Wolverias and yet I managed to find Wolveria shards in there several times. Also, Transmutation can cost a lot of money, but you can get pretty nifty stuff from failed transmutations. Like Great Mystic. It's always a pleasant shock when something like that happens.
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