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Post by Interrupted on May 12, 2017 22:41:30 GMT
Please can someone who has really valid first hand info or expirience share?
Given 243 sparks what to do?
Craft 2 blue Noble Lord or 1 purple?
I crafted several equipment and got 4 different skills. So far I went only for blue ones but got mostly crappy skills:
Law, Harrow (multiple), Muddle but I got Unholy Rites as well.
Muddle and Unholy Rites are awesome combo with Octavius, Shrew and Capri. Law and harrow are never used.
Gloves and Belt are reserved for regular gold equipment.
Also for each equipment I have gold piece as well as sometimes stats are preferable (e.g. Grimoire).
That being said I would like to craft another Helmet (I kept harrow on blue helmet but I'm using regular gold). This time I have mats for Noble Lord equipment.
I know this question has been asked before but are confine, impede, blitz, pacifist or any better skill available on purple only or have at least higher chance to get.
I wasted 200 sparks for redundant harrows and all my crafting expirience leads me to try purple this time as I also consider harrow and law garbage and waste of sparks.
Bare in mind that most likely I will not get additional sparks in foreseeable future. 7 more are achievable for extra safety and full 100% on purple.
P.S. I know BS can be got on blue but please try to not mention it.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on May 13, 2017 11:30:27 GMT
Same frustration here. After many attempts I haven't got any good bonus skill (lots of muddle and harrow) with blue equipment. Though it was just from common material. I know with lord noble equipment has better bonus skill pool but I would like to know too if the chances to get something "special" skill is higher with the higher grade. I try to believe yes. So I voted for go purple. + eventually you will need that extra boost of the purple equipment over the blue.
Just let us know how did it go.
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Post by spizz0 on May 13, 2017 11:37:48 GMT
From what I've heard: Blue noble lord equipment has access to bonus skills (like BS) but not all of them. You need purple+ in order to have access to the whole pool.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on May 13, 2017 13:01:00 GMT
2 blue since it is Noble equip.Bulls#it and Last Resort are in that equip,thats why i would go for more than 1 try for them. Dont want to bring bad luck but if you go for purple that means getting harrow or muddle (probably) with blowing all sparks,but with 2 blue there is glimpse of hope in that second try to get something useful as secondary skill.
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Post by cozy on May 13, 2017 14:06:37 GMT
Make 3 blue.
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Post by moonshaker on May 13, 2017 14:13:44 GMT
I just used 100 sparks for blue Lord and got 40% increase dmg as secondary skill, not good but OK . Now I have 250 sparks may go for 2 more
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Post by Interrupted on May 13, 2017 14:43:56 GMT
Hmm, I was looking at top 100 players to compare skills and stats, also Arena player who recently got THE Skill.
My observation is that whenever I saw confine, blitz, impede, pacifist and other 'normal' high end skills stats confirms that it is purple equipment.
However in regards of BuuullCraaap it was prevalent on blue more than purple.
If assumpion is correct that those better ones are available only on purple equipment and only BC is in blue pool than this makes perfect sense. This would mean that since BC is also in smaller blue pool it has relatively high drop chance...
I can make reation to my previous crafting. All were crafted on Plainwalker sets and pretty much the same as for regular sets - except Rites that were available on blue (I think Plainwalker exclusive as it is now the case with BC on Lord sets). Since majority is crafting blue ones lot of people now have Rites and BC (but not the others).
I made huge mistakes by going for blue ones. I lucked out Rites and it evened sparks expenses to a degree. But given how many crappy skills I got with blue I might have gone with purples. It does make sense that more sparks will give better skills. My common sense was reminding ne of this all the time but I believed others that color does not matter and that it's just luck.
Now regarding BC there are several resolutions that I can predict for either upcoming update or the next.
1) Removal of the skill - unfortunatelly highly unlikely due to refunds - 1%
2) Balancing - more likely - description says that it shall nullify attack and deal # times that as direct dmg. It might be the case that # will actually become fixed sane number. I give this 10% to happen soon. Long term more possible to be.
3) After luring players to go for Mega Skill by crafting blue equipment it is being moved to purple exclusive zone and no more blue (or really rarely gives thus skill). I give this option 45% to happen.
4) Nothing changes: the worst possible scenario with high potency to end the game or introduce even bigger power creep although atm I can not comprehend what that would be. 45% from me to happen.
5) Something else or combination of above
Knowing that sw dev is going towards cheaper solutions 3 and 4 are the most possible outcomes.
Having said above I have not come to a decision... Slightly leaning towards purple.
Also in presence of BC last resort is not something... Never had issues with it. Fine balanced skill but not as nearly good as others.
Nerf will come for sure, it's question of time but IGG will take oportunity of this bug as long as possible. Something tells me it's not working as intended. It might as well continue to be as-is bc it's cheapest option and bc it generates tons of cash in this rush for The Skill.
What do you guys think? Does the part of skill distribution by color makes any sense to you?
Has anyone asked or heard if someone has contacted IGG about this? I have already filed bug report regarding BC but will ask this as well as soon as I find some time.
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Post by Interrupted on May 13, 2017 14:45:09 GMT
I just used 100 sparks for blue Lord and got 40% increase dmg as secondary skill, not good but OK . Now I have 250 sparks may go for 2 more Happened to me twice. Both time that very same crappy harrow... Edit: This is the reason I'd like to reconsider since now I can make 2 blue ones but from the start they could have been 2 purple attempts... And I'm not particulary targeting BC but anything decent / different. Blowing ~500 sparks for blue crap... I stopped after 2. This has happened yesterday.
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Post by Interrupted on May 13, 2017 14:45:41 GMT
Why? All my blue stuff are not something... Except Rites. For a chances of getting BC? Very tempting proposal though... Tnx.
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Post by cozy on May 13, 2017 15:48:25 GMT
Why? All my blue stuff are not something... Except Rites. For a chances of getting BC? Very tempting proposal though... Tnx. My thought is that chance of good skill could very well be the same for purple, in which case you are playing the same lottery but spending 2.5x as much. I'd love to see data that backs up either position. I've made four blue and got unholy rites, muddle, and twice harrow. But this data doesn't really help. We'd need to have like 100+ samples on blue and purple to begin to understand.
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Post by Interrupted on May 13, 2017 16:41:07 GMT
Why? All my blue stuff are not something... Except Rites. For a chances of getting BC? Very tempting proposal though... Tnx. My thought is that chance of good skill could very well be the same for purple, in which case you are playing the same lottery but spending 2.5x as much. I'd love to see data that backs up either position. I've made four blue and got unholy rites, muddle, and twice harrow. But this data doesn't really help. We'd need to have like 100+ samples on blue and purple to begin to understand. We can't have that data. What we do have is our Arenas and Tourney. As I said above all top 100 have those better skills on purple. Might be they all craft only purples but I'm not sure. And BS was more present on blue... And me eventhough have small sample never crafted anything good except Rites... And I consider muddle decent. Also what others are saying indicates this very much can be the case as expiriences are similir. From the point equipment is introduced till today I never saw impede, blitz, confine or similar on blue. Do you know anyone? I don't. All blues are muddles, harrows, laws and exceptions like Rites on blue Plainwalker eq. and BS on Lord ones.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on May 13, 2017 21:43:58 GMT
I don't think IGG is so generous to give the same bones skills equally in each grade. There must be some difference. Maybe the pool is the same (I am still doubting) but the chances to get them are different. Must be.
The way I think is you've got three grade. The lower the grade is the more likely you will get a common skill. If I translate it in numbers, lets say with blue you got 10% chance for a special skill. With purple 25% and with gold 100%. So at some point you might be better off if you craft 3 blue with a bonus skill than 1 purple.
But I am still voting for purple. I have almost 200 sparks and won't use it with blue stuff again
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