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Post by Nirvana on Jun 1, 2017 12:07:25 GMT
yes it works even with lvl 1 rune. This is great. It's like a free slap. yeah, I watched some replay yesterday, toxicity hit 7 creatures then trigger fervent for 14 times, lmao.
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Post by barleylime on Jun 1, 2017 12:19:29 GMT
So... what are the 3 best runes for Capricorn?
1. Dodge, Violence, Protean 2. Poison, Violence, Protean 3. Poison, Dodge, Protean / Violence 4. Dodge, Protean, Sac 5. Others
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Post by micionero on Jun 1, 2017 12:22:36 GMT
this new fervent is too powerful, I always kill all creatures just with evolved stinger capricorn
anyway, it's also wonderful to see, i can't skip combat anymore, waiting the moment when she enters and do a strage XD
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Post by micionero on Jun 1, 2017 12:23:53 GMT
So... what are the 3 best runes for Capricorn? 1. Dodge, Violence, Protean 2. Poison, Violence, Protean 3. Poison, Dodge, Protean / Violence 4. Dodge, Protean, Sac 5. Others i think the 3 Dodge Poison Violence
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Post by Yuna on Jun 1, 2017 13:37:46 GMT
I evolved a Gas Cloud. It can't go through Immunity. I'm also thinking Picking Off. Also, I gave my one and only Dodge rune to her and when she dodges, she returns direct damage to 3 creatures, and attack 3 times because of this. LOL. I really love the new change to Fervent. Oh, I forgot about that. Time to take my Dodge Runes off my Queen Temptresses.
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Post by icyfist on Jun 1, 2017 15:20:04 GMT
I evolved a Gas Cloud. It can't go through Immunity. I'm also thinking Picking Off. Also, I gave my one and only Dodge rune to her and when she dodges, she returns direct damage to 3 creatures, and attack 3 times because of this. LOL. I really love the new change to Fervent. Oh, I forgot about that. Time to take my Dodge Runes off my Queen Temptresses. QT not best suited for dodge rune anyway...apart from her skill, her stats are poo
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 1, 2017 15:22:13 GMT
Oh, I forgot about that. Time to take my Dodge Runes off my Queen Temptresses. QT not best suited for dodge rune anyway...apart from her skill, her stats are poo dodge rune is great on qt cause it allows her to do dmg. The rune Calc dmg based on the attacker, not on the rune owners stats. But yeah, definately put the dodgems rune on cap, that's potentially 3 extra slaps.
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Post by ningthou on Jun 1, 2017 15:39:47 GMT
I suppose they did this cos of tge storm ward-fervent confusion. Old Cap just slapped everyone when she is hit by the ward i.e. b4 storm ward reaches the other crits on the right to her. So she slaps arpund till she dies and I doubt they calc. the remaining damage to the rught crits. Some shud have died but didnt die cos they calced it wrong. Or Something like that happened I am assuming
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Post by proleon on Jun 1, 2017 16:21:25 GMT
this new fervent is too powerful, I always kill all creatures just with evolved stinger capricorn anyway, it's also wonderful to see, i can't skip combat anymore, waiting the moment when she enters and do a strage XD I just equip poison rune to cap and she slap 2x times for each successful toxicity attack. Awesome. I wish I could get a dodge rune too.
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Post by BlackTone on Jun 1, 2017 17:22:43 GMT
Old capri was definitely fun. New Capri is also definitely fun! Different kinds of fun though. She cray!
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 4:39:49 GMT
The old was fun because it is the only card that can return damage when locked down ... the new capri.. only with dodge or retaliate skill, it can returnwith a fervert when locked down... to those with sac capri.. it sure is a wasted as once locked down (if no dodge rune), u are goner... .. the only glimmer of hope for sac capri is when the field is loaded with umimmmuje cards like sac taurus, sac capris, aquas... then sac capri would have a nice field day...
The current format sac capri would wasted in presence of blade shard opponent as compared to sac taurus... before the change sac capri is still good against blade shard... as whennu revive a sac capri... (it does nothing) and next turn blade shard sure to trigger on him... but he returns back big damage thru old fervert..
Current fervert meta, it is revived and died under blade shard returning nothing...
Sac taurus on the hand has a chance against blade shard as the damange in health is changed to attk and taurus uses attk + hp to dish out dd...with the 2xattk to hp loss... sac taurus can survive first blade shard when u put no violence rune
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 7:12:17 GMT
Also i forgot to addd.... sac taurus under ward... despite blade shard reducing the attk.to zero... the hp remained intact less 1 hp because of ward... this makes taurus more desireable than capricorn against blade sharded opponent
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 7:40:05 GMT
The old was fun because it is the only card that can return damage when locked down ... the new capri.. only with dodge or retaliate skill, it can returnwith a fervert when locked down... to those with sac capri.. it sure is a wasted as once locked down (if no dodge rune), u are goner... .. the only glimmer of hope for sac capri is when the field is loaded with umimmmuje cards like sac taurus, sac capris, aquas... then sac capri would have a nice field day... The current format sac capri would wasted in presence of blade shard opponent as compared to sac taurus... before the change sac capri is still good against blade shard... as whennu revive a sac capri... (it does nothing) and next turn blade shard sure to trigger on him... but he returns back big damage thru old fervert.. Current fervert meta, it is revived and died under blade shard returning nothing... Sac taurus on the hand has a chance against blade shard as the damange in health is changed to attk and taurus uses attk + hp to dish out dd...with the 2xattk to hp loss... sac taurus can survive first blade shard when u put no violence rune I think you forgot The Twins. That's what makes the Twin Sac so popular. Even when it is locked down it sometimes hits back.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 2, 2017 8:33:43 GMT
The old was fun because it is the only card that can return damage when locked down ... the new capri.. only with dodge or retaliate skill, it can returnwith a fervert when locked down... to those with sac capri.. it sure is a wasted as once locked down (if no dodge rune), u are goner... .. the only glimmer of hope for sac capri is when the field is loaded with umimmmuje cards like sac taurus, sac capris, aquas... then sac capri would have a nice field day... The current format sac capri would wasted in presence of blade shard opponent as compared to sac taurus... before the change sac capri is still good against blade shard... as whennu revive a sac capri... (it does nothing) and next turn blade shard sure to trigger on him... but he returns back big damage thru old fervert.. Current fervert meta, it is revived and died under blade shard returning nothing... Sac taurus on the hand has a chance against blade shard as the damange in health is changed to attk and taurus uses attk + hp to dish out dd...with the 2xattk to hp loss... sac taurus can survive first blade shard when u put no violence rune I think you forgot The Twins. That's what makes the Twin Sac so popular. Even when it is locked down it sometimes hits back. innever forget but a measely 30% chance return is crap... against bs user...zero attk means useless... anyway the 30% chance makes it not popular
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2017 11:12:53 GMT
Oh, I forgot about that. Time to take my Dodge Runes off my Queen Temptresses. QT not best suited for dodge rune anyway...apart from her skill, her stats are poo Yeah, but she was the only creature I use frequently who has Dodge besides Capricorn and there were many other good runes to put on Capricorn before the change in how Fervent works (seeing as how Dodge Rune is based on the enemy's ATK, not the Dodger's ATK).
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2017 11:14:14 GMT
I suppose they did this cos of tge storm ward-fervent confusion. Old Cap just slapped everyone when she is hit by the ward i.e. b4 storm ward reaches the other crits on the right to her. So she slaps arpund till she dies and I doubt they calc. the remaining damage to the rught crits. Some shud have died but didnt die cos they calced it wrong. Or Something like that happened I am assuming It's been many months since Fervent activated off Storm Ward. As of a few months ago, Fervent just completely ignores Storm Ward. Storm Ward triggering does not trigger Storm Ward and Capricorn hitting a Storm Warded creature does not trigger Storm Ward (though it does run down the number of proccs Storm Ward is active for).
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 2, 2017 12:57:56 GMT
I want to add that there is another zodiac who can still deal dmg while under requiem, mass charm, discord, etc. It's not safe against blade shard but was excluded in the list of cards that deal dmg while locked out. My arena is predominately vs with only a few druidess and I get alot of clutch hits from my sac saggi despite being locked out. Even when he is attacking my own hero he likes to nuke enemy creatures as his skill only needs him to be attacking to proc. The target doesn't matter.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2017 13:32:52 GMT
I want to add that there is another zodiac who can still deal dmg while under requiem, mass charm, discord, etc. It's not safe against blade shard but was excluded in the list of cards that deal dmg while locked out. My arena is predominately vs with only a few druidess and I get alot of clutch hits from my sac saggi despite being locked out. Even when he is attacking my own hero he likes to nuke enemy creatures as his skill only needs him to be attacking to proc. The target doesn't matter. It's like people keep forgetting Libra exists and/or is a Zodiac. With the buff, she's quite good now, actually. (Strictly speaking, Virgo/Virgil can also deal damage while locked down, but it's miniscule and only in response to Magic attacks)
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 2, 2017 14:23:15 GMT
I want to add that there is another zodiac who can still deal dmg while under requiem, mass charm, discord, etc. It's not safe against blade shard but was excluded in the list of cards that deal dmg while locked out. My arena is predominately vs with only a few druidess and I get alot of clutch hits from my sac saggi despite being locked out. Even when he is attacking my own hero he likes to nuke enemy creatures as his skill only needs him to be attacking to proc. The target doesn't matter. It's like people keep forgetting Libra exists and/or is a Zodiac. With the buff, she's quite good now, actually. (Strictly speaking, Virgo/Virgil can also deal damage while locked down, but it's miniscule and only in response to Magic attacks) virgo can add a little bit more dmg with the death gaze rune as well but it's nothing to write home about. Libra and saggi are the better of the lock down dmgers now.
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Post by ℒ✰Deer on Jun 2, 2017 14:33:10 GMT
Libra was rubbish back then. Now it's a different story but still u need to buff her hp up a lot to be useful.
If we talking about which creature performs best under lock down there is one word, two letter: Ra.
By the was is Ra's wrath goes through storm ward?
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Post by ningthou on Jun 2, 2017 14:38:10 GMT
Libra was rubbish back then. Now it's a different story but still u need to buff her hp up a lot to be useful. If we talking about which creature performs best under lock down there is one word, two letter: Ra. By the was is Ra's wrath goes through storm ward? Yeah as far as I know Ra and Hathors unmelded skills, Fervent, Danse Macabre, Divine Wrath and Crimson Tide goes through Storm Ward
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2017 14:59:35 GMT
Libra was rubbish back then. Now it's a different story but still u need to buff her hp up a lot to be useful. If we talking about which creature performs best under lock down there is one word, two letter: Ra. By the was is Ra's wrath goes through storm ward? This is precisely why I have a Sacrifice Libra. It's hilarious. That said, you don't need to buff her HP for her to be useful (by this logic, you also needed to buff old Capricorn's HP), you just need to either heal her up or prevent her HP from dropping. What you "need" to do is stack Libra's ATK. Warded Sacrifice Libra will inflict a lot of damage. Nothing goes through Storm Ward except: Fervent (old + new), HP reduction skills (Frost Blade + Rune, Odin's Divine Wrath, Warbringer's Rupture (but not Crimson Tide), etc.)
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Post by Yuna on Jun 2, 2017 15:05:07 GMT
Libra was rubbish back then. Now it's a different story but still u need to buff her hp up a lot to be useful. If we talking about which creature performs best under lock down there is one word, two letter: Ra. By the was is Ra's wrath goes through storm ward? Yeah as far as I know Ra and Hathors unmelded skills, Fervent, Danse Macabre, Divine Wrath and Crimson Tide goes through Storm Ward * Ra's Wrath does not go through Storm Ward * Hathor's Killing Intent does go through Storm Ward because it's a HP reduction skill and not an attack (it reduces HP by 10% of Hathor's current ATK) * Danse Macabre does not go through Storm Ward. Bleed does (because it's a HP reduction skill). * Divine Wrath (Odin's Hero Skill) is a HP reduction skill, so it goes through Storm Ward. * Crimston Tide does not go through Storm Ward. Rupture does (because it's a HP reduction skill).
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Post by ningthou on Jun 2, 2017 15:18:46 GMT
Thanks for clearing that up Yuna
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 2, 2017 17:00:11 GMT
Yeah as far as I know Ra and Hathors unmelded skills, Fervent, Danse Macabre, Divine Wrath and Crimson Tide goes through Storm Ward * Ra's Wrath does not go through Storm Ward * Hathor's Killing Intent does go through Storm Ward because it's a HP reduction skill and not an attack (it reduces HP by 10% of Hathor's current ATK) * Danse Macabre does not go through Storm Ward. Bleed does (because it's a HP reduction skill). * Divine Wrath (Odin's Hero Skill) is a HP reduction skill, so it goes through Storm Ward. * Crimston Tide does not go through Storm Ward. Rupture does (because it's a HP reduction skill). arcane conjuror's skills ignores wards as well doesn't it? I've tested it on immunity but not wards.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 3, 2017 0:07:22 GMT
* Ra's Wrath does not go through Storm Ward * Hathor's Killing Intent does go through Storm Ward because it's a HP reduction skill and not an attack (it reduces HP by 10% of Hathor's current ATK) * Danse Macabre does not go through Storm Ward. Bleed does (because it's a HP reduction skill). * Divine Wrath (Odin's Hero Skill) is a HP reduction skill, so it goes through Storm Ward. * Crimston Tide does not go through Storm Ward. Rupture does (because it's a HP reduction skill). arcane conjuror's skills ignores wards as well doesn't it? I've tested it on immunity but not wards. Presumably, since it's a HP reduction skill. My post was not a complete list of skills that go through Storm Ward, only those mentioned by Deer.
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 3, 2017 0:37:23 GMT
arcane conjuror's skills ignores wards as well doesn't it? I've tested it on immunity but not wards. Presumably, since it's a HP reduction skill. My post was not a complete list of skills that go through Storm Ward, only those mentioned by Deer. speaking of testing skills, in response to the new card unicorn lancer, I did some testing with soul snatch to see how high of an attack you can get with a single target proc. It works extremely well with high crit. I wasn't able to completely optimize my cards attack but I was able to get a harrow+crit hit with a starting attack of 857. My attack jumped to 1644 using soul snatch 7. Given that lancer has higher base stats but a lower soul snatch, I think you could get his base attack to about 1587 with a lvl 6 violence V and a lvl 8 protean iv. With his 2 timer, I could see him being played with enough time for 2 free hits on the hero. As long as the first doesn't crit he would jump to 1984. If the second crits he would jump to 2976 (2480 if not). That would allow him to deal double procs from his direct dmg skill to even most sac crits without heavy rune investment or sac10. Depending on how far up his direct dmg % scales, he could most likely one turn solo almost any card. I think that's pretty cool for an unmelded creature.
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Jun 3, 2017 8:18:33 GMT
I liked the old giraffe slap capricorn. And what do you think about Aqua change? No more hibernation.. is it buff or nerf? I dont have her, but i am just curious. Thanks
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Jun 3, 2017 9:26:38 GMT
I liked the old giraffe slap capricorn. And what do you think about Aqua change? No more hibernation.. is it buff or nerf? I dont have her, but i am just curious. Thanks well it depends but i like more old Aqua
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Post by ZanderX10 on Jun 3, 2017 11:54:27 GMT
I liked the old giraffe slap capricorn. And what do you think about Aqua change? No more hibernation.. is it buff or nerf? I dont have her, but i am just curious. Thanks well it depends but i like more old Aqua old aqua hibernate was cheap and glitchy. She could singlehandedly wast oceanus' skill, she stopped attacks for several turns from whoever was across from her, she could get permafroze if ra was in play, I'm sure there's more that I can't think of since I just woke up. New aqua doesn't do any of that shenanigans. Now she can proc on enemy turn and end their turn abruptly, she can actually spam her skill a bit better now because she doesn't waste rounds frozen and healing and can just die and be revived.
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