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Post by ruklo on Nov 13, 2017 19:57:30 GMT
With these pieces of information (not to much) lets talk about the new cards: Artifacts: IGG facebook: "Artifact Preview III Artifacts are a new type of card with their own individual Deck. Similar to Creatures, each Artifact has a required wait time before it can be played. However, Artifacts are one-use cards that do not have HP and therefore cannot be destroyed." and TW server information: deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/8348/tw-server-new-items-mall Will you use them? (if you can get them) When? Will you replace a spot in your deck for a one time use card? My thoughs is better to use creatures..... Current Artifacts: (as what can you see from the pics - not completed) (ALL LEVEL 1) (name) (waiting time) (cost) (LP cost) = what they do.... DREAMERS CUP ( 2) (10) ( 1000gp X 10 SHARD) = add 400 hp/max hp to a random creature
PIKE OF CONV... (4) (1...) (1200 GP X 10 SHARD) = Up to 3 GSs in one deck Lv1: Deals 600 true DMG to 1 Creature.
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MITHRIL SABER (4) (25) ()
SPIRIT REAPER (4) (15) ()
GLA.... (4) (18) ()
TITAN BANGLE (2) (10) (1000 GP X 10 SHARD)= Up to 5 GBs in one deck. Lv1:Increases 200 ATK for 1 Creature.
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Post by 4marissa on Nov 14, 2017 2:21:13 GMT
'Artifacts are a new type of card with their own individual Deck' This tells me you cannot put them in your normal deck. Not sure what the benefit is if this is the case.
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Post by whitebears on Nov 17, 2017 15:40:43 GMT
So I get all excited about this new update on artifacts, only to be greeted by a blank deck page for artifacts. Anyone have news of what will be happening?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Nov 17, 2017 17:20:17 GMT
This is what i found out so far about Artifacts (in general) from other DH forum:
1. Unlocks at LvL 45
2. Artifacts are a new type of card with their own individual Deck. Similar to Creatures, each Artifact has a required wait time before it can be played.
3. A "View Artifact" button has been added to the Deck interface. The Power displayed for each Deck will now factor cards in the Artifact Deck; The ATK and HP icons for the Artifact Deck will be grayed out as they only apply to Creature Decks
4. Artifacts are one-use cards that do not have HP and therefore cannot be destroyed.
5. There are 3 types of Artifacts: Ardent, Adapt, and Arcana. Arcana Artifacts grant a new Skill; Ardent Artifacts provide attribute boosts; Adapt Artifacts enhance an existing Skill
6. Artifacts can be fused using their corresponding Shards (excluding Omni Shards).
7. Artifacts can also be upgraded using their corresponding Shards.
8. Artifacts can be sold for Coins.
9. Artifacts can be converted into Artifact Shards of a similar type.
10. Artifacts can be obtained from Lucky Spin or exchanged as Artifact Shards from the LP Mall.
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Post by BK✦McNaughty on Nov 17, 2017 17:27:37 GMT
so for health or attack, will cost you 100k lp for one level 1 artifact, for direct damage cost is 120k lp. That's pricey.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Nov 17, 2017 19:02:01 GMT
For me personally, Artifacts are pure bull*hit, it will take from you tons of gems to upgraded them since like vanila they are absolutely nothing special to have, so for that amount of LP you can get few great runes from LP mall or to invest in Wraith Hunter levels.
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Post by jckson992 on Nov 17, 2017 19:09:59 GMT
Ugh they are gem only? So another thing not ftp friendly
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Post by whitebears on Nov 17, 2017 19:18:15 GMT
so for health or attack, will cost you 100k lp for one level 1 artifact, for direct damage cost is 120k lp. That's pricey. it's 1,200 LP for 10 shards. So probably 12,000 LP for a full level 1 artifact then? 12,000 LP to get the damage artifact. That's about, what ~10,000 gems to do 600 direct damage? lol
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Post by godlion10 on Nov 17, 2017 19:26:11 GMT
whitebears from what I have understood you need 1k shards to complete 1 artifact..so add another 0 to you calculations.
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Post by BK✦McNaughty on Nov 17, 2017 19:46:10 GMT
So either they introduce lower cost artifacts or this new feature is for whales only. I could spend my extra earnings from full Alice Bond to eventually get 1 artifact at level 1, so probably 6 months to 1 year to get one artifact. I only spend on Star, so only gems I'll get are the AB ones, daily ones, and ones I get in events. Sooo, this new feature is great, but currently not obtainable realistically or wisely for non and minimal spenders. Sad. Hopefully they come out with some cheap 4* artifacts for the rest of us so we can at least enjoy this new game mechanic.
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Post by 🌟Starr🌟 on Nov 17, 2017 20:33:05 GMT
Yeah 10k shards for basic 1-time-use artifact, 100k lp... thats simply disgusting. Will even whales be interested?
Been here since the beginning, 3 yrs. I really loved this game, and i WANT to love it again, but they're not giving me any reason whatsoever to do so 😢
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Nov 17, 2017 21:01:35 GMT
Been here since the beginning, 3 yrs. I really loved this game, and i WANT to love it again, but they're not giving me any reason whatsoever to do so 😢 Thats the problem...they dont care for voice of community, no one expecting or asking from them to give to f2p some great things, just to give some events or cards or anything that can be approachable for them so they can stay interested in game thats all. But simply it wont happen just because they dont care.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 21:27:04 GMT
For a card game, this game is really keen to keep focus and power somewhere else than on creatures.
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Post by revenant on Nov 20, 2017 11:06:14 GMT
Looks like artifacts are a big fail for now. I noticed on the sky arena ranking, of all the top players I browsed, only Utyon and another had an artifact on their deck out of maybe 30 players... looks like even big whales don't care a lot, for now. Of course they'll give out artifacts and shards for the top prices in events, which might go to the same people over and over. Moreover, looks like another way to put less and less creativity on creatures and their interactions.
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Post by japoon on Nov 20, 2017 15:55:02 GMT
Artifacts is the best improvement so far in Deck Heroes. All you need is only money at Sky Price to purchase those Artifacts and they can be used for 1 time. After using it, you only need to purhcase again and again and again.
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Post by BK✦McNaughty on Nov 20, 2017 16:16:19 GMT
I was under the impression that the one use meant per battle, not a throw away card that you never get to use again.
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Post by revenant on Nov 20, 2017 16:16:24 GMT
Artifacts is the best improvement so far in Deck Heroes. All you need is only money at Sky Price to purchase those Artifacts and they can be used for 1 time. After using it, you only need to purhcase again and again and again. Guess you mean they can be used once for every match And indeed I agree, it's the best improvement... for IGG bank accounts!
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Post by 🌟Starr🌟 on Nov 20, 2017 16:17:54 GMT
😅 So u know about the next event DH has!?!
Live PvP... player 1 makes deposit, player 2 makes deposit, player 1 makes another deposit. 1st to give up gets eliminated, the winner moves to next round.
The last player left wins 5 odin shards and a coupon for their next deposit.
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Post by revenant on Nov 20, 2017 16:25:03 GMT
😅 So u know about the next event DH has!?! Live PvP... player 1 makes deposit, player 2 makes deposit, player 1 makes another deposit. 1st to give up gets eliminated, the winner moves to next round. The last player left wins 5 odin shards and a coupon for their next deposit. Nope, you forgot 0,00013% more gems on their next purchase!
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Post by revenant on Nov 20, 2017 16:28:53 GMT
Btw Ruklo, sorry! Guess this was supposed to be a serious thread but it's hard taking IGG for serious nowadays.
I still have some hope that they will put out lower level more easily farmable artifacts, for ftp players. No, it's not another joke btw.
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Post by 🌟Starr🌟 on Nov 20, 2017 16:59:04 GMT
Btw Ruklo, sorry! Guess this was supposed to be a serious thread but it's hard taking IGG for serious nowadays. I still have some hope that they will put out lower level more easily farmable artifacts, for ftp players. No, it's not another joke btw. Yeah sorry to get off topic... 4* or even 3* artifacts in the future could help rebalance game play. Keep your fingers crossed
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Nov 20, 2017 18:32:03 GMT
Yes, Artifacts are joke. Or if you like, you can think of them as product of one developer who got idea to make them under effect of LSD
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Post by japoon on Nov 21, 2017 3:58:39 GMT
How much gems estimated for purchasing an Artist?
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Post by japoon on Nov 21, 2017 4:14:05 GMT
I think the price is reasonable.
IGG, as a company, they need to earn money and have their sales and revenue target.
However nowadays many and many choose to not spend and only plays with free gems generated from Alice Bonds. This hurt IGG. They will develop new functions and features to generate more revenue.
Don't complain anymore as we don't show any support (spending). The game run and it required budget, develop teams, maintenance teams, their rental office, their salary, electricity.
So I support the Artifact of they can help IGG to generate more money.
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Post by revenant on Nov 21, 2017 8:24:15 GMT
I think the price is reasonable. IGG, as a company, they need to earn money and have their sales and revenue target. However nowadays many and many choose to not spend and only plays with free gems generated from Alice Bonds. This hurt IGG. They will develop new functions and features to generate more revenue. Don't complain anymore as we don't show any support (spending). The game run and it required budget, develop teams, maintenance teams, their rental office, their salary, electricity. So I support the Artifact of they can help IGG to generate more money. Japoon, I have nothing against IGG generating money, on the contrary I wish them to be a thriving company. They are free to set their prices, and people is free to spend as much money as they want on the game. I think we are just pointing out to the fact that while people who pay have easy access to more and more content, the game is getting somewhat stale for ftp people, and for those who spend a little money (I am one of those) for some benefits like star system and maybe a bit faster access to AB sales. The point to me is not that they have put out artifacts, good or bad the concept might be, is that they are out of reach for now unless much effort and money is spent for them. My point is that while spenders are getting a new Ferrari (well, artifacts aren't but they are a new toy indeed) to play with every now and then, ftp players aren't even getting a new bike to grind on, and sometimes (see the Heist not coming back) they are stripped of some of the fun to play features. I don't think that having a larger player base would hurt IGG in any way, on the opposite ftp and low spending players are free advertisement for the game, a larger fan base for forums and discussion, which might lure more people to play, and the opportunity to round up their bank accounts with their small contributions.
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Nov 21, 2017 13:14:40 GMT
I think the price is reasonable. IGG, as a company, they need to earn money and have their sales and revenue target. However nowadays many and many choose to not spend and only plays with free gems generated from Alice Bonds. This hurt IGG. They will develop new functions and features to generate more revenue. Don't complain anymore as we don't show any support (spending). The game run and it required budget, develop teams, maintenance teams, their rental office, their salary, electricity. So I support the Artifact of they can help IGG to generate more money. Japoon, I have nothing against IGG generating money, on the contrary I wish them to be a thriving company. They are free to set their prices, and people is free to spend as much money as they want on the game. I think we are just pointing out to the fact that while people who pay have easy access to more and more content, the game is getting somewhat stale for ftp people, and for those who spend a little money (I am one of those) for some benefits like star system and maybe a bit faster access to AB sales. The point to me is not that they have put out artifacts, good or bad the concept might be, is that they are out of reach for now unless much effort and money is spent for them. My point is that while spenders are getting a new Ferrari (well, artifacts aren't but they are a new toy indeed) to play with every now and then, ftp players aren't even getting a new bike to grind on, and sometimes (see the Heist not coming back) they are stripped of some of the fun to play features. I don't think that having a larger player base would hurt IGG in any way, on the opposite ftp and low spending players are free advertisement for the game, a larger fan base for forums and discussion, which might lure more people to play, and the opportunity to round up their bank accounts with their small contributions. japooned
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Nov 21, 2017 23:59:01 GMT
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Post by whitebears on Nov 23, 2017 6:37:21 GMT
Illusory Blade interacts with multiple basic attacks. Not bad. This means creatures like Kitsune duplicate up to 5 enemies. Great impact card then, for manual play.
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Post by bl8catcher on Nov 23, 2017 8:01:41 GMT
Illusory Blade interacts with multiple basic attacks. Not bad. This means creatures like Kitsune duplicate up to 5 enemies. Great impact card then, for manual play. If you liked kitsune with that artifact, what about capricorn...
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Post by ruklo on Dec 18, 2017 14:55:56 GMT
now, for all F2P AB with a lot of gems without use, you could get (for 40K gems)
Crimson Lotus:
Grants 1 of your creatures Ruinos Blade " When they destroy an enemy creature with basic attack, it explodes and deals damage equal to 20% of its max HP (up to 10000MG) no rage generation...."
(probably the 20% will go higher with higher with higher artifact)
(it is strange the 10.000 Dmg cap.)
So , ideas?
Will it trigger with Souls Shrew Swarm? (how about sac shrew?)
Nice with Bullseye creatures?
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