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Post by squirreleyez on May 27, 2018 3:49:33 GMT
Title says it all... but before you guys say it's the order of skills that determine activation, ARE WE SURE?
For example, Instakill and Disposal skills are given priority over other skills. I suspect the same might be true of (D) skills. Can anyone confirm or deny with proof?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on May 27, 2018 6:44:22 GMT
[D]Instakill will first proc and kill card then Vaporize will trigger. Its easy to test, just meld [D]Instakill on any other card which have similar skill set activation and you will see. This is probably second best meld for Cyber Eye, Detonate is by far ranked 1 meld for it just becuse tons of immunity on decks plus with detonate rune you have free card remove while Cyber still survive death att.
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Post by squirreleyez on May 27, 2018 17:08:02 GMT
Hi Grandfather =)
Ok gonna have to respectfully disagree and break the meta on this one... at high levels, there is a lot less immunity all around. You see these extremely high damage creatures, no more disposals, instakills, etc. A lot less cards are ever in the graveyard compared to lower play... tons of revives, recycles, etc.
I'm theorizing and perhaps this will be wrong, but bear with me... detonate cybereye at high levels, most likely will go off and not Vaporize anything. If rune happened to trigger, it would come back to life and die again, and still not kill anything. However, melded with D instakill, you are very likely to snatch a rec3 aquarius, or other very high damage or seal creature that does not have immunity, and this would be insta-vaporized!! If Vaporize does indeed trigger after D insta, I'd predict once community found out, you'll see a lot people that jumped on the detonate cybereye bandwagon convert to D instakill. For detonate to be better, you'd have to bank on at least 2 creatures being in the enemy graveyard at the same time (or hope they don't kill it the turn detonate procs)
I feel bad doubting but I want to make EXTREMELY sure that this meld would work... as I don't have infinite gems. How do you know that D instakill would precede Vaporize?
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Post by squirreleyez on May 27, 2018 17:10:46 GMT
And I'd want to test... but honestly with the inconsistency of IGG, other bugs in card function and skillsets... who knows how Vaporize will truly interact
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on May 27, 2018 17:19:56 GMT
Usually 5/10 or 5/9 cards on enemy have immunity so i wouldnt rely on that odds...plus if Lucidity gets casted or DS, again you will instakill dust Anyway i dont mind (D)Instakill meld its very good, i just prefer Detonate more I know because i had melded that onto one card which have (D)Pyre or something like that when she dies it cast mgc dmg to all cards, so i melded (D)Instakill on it to see and it first Instakill goes off, but dont have that anymore will make it again and make a video to show you. Usually 4th skill goes off first but not always the case, thats why its best to check. Imagine sacrifice 10 Taurus to do Omega Impact first then to do sac hahaha
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Post by asgarth1980 on May 27, 2018 22:44:30 GMT
Hi Grandfather =) Ok gonna have to respectfully disagree and break the meta on this one... at high levels, there is a lot less immunity all around. You see these extremely high damage creatures, no more disposals, instakills, etc. A lot less cards are ever in the graveyard compared to lower play... tons of revives, recycles, etc. I'm theorizing and perhaps this will be wrong, but bear with me... detonate cybereye at high levels, most likely will go off and not Vaporize anything. If rune happened to trigger, it would come back to life and die again, and still not kill anything. However, melded with D instakill, you are very likely to snatch a rec3 aquarius, or other very high damage or seal creature that does not have immunity, and this would be insta-vaporized!! If Vaporize does indeed trigger after D insta, I'd predict once community found out, you'll see a lot people that jumped on the detonate cybereye bandwagon convert to D instakill. For detonate to be better, you'd have to bank on at least 2 creatures being in the enemy graveyard at the same time (or hope they don't kill it the turn detonate procs) I feel bad doubting but I want to make EXTREMELY sure that this meld would work... as I don't have infinite gems. How do you know that D instakill would precede Vaporize? the eye with detonate is good.. for top decks especially on ronin or druidess... why?.. because their hero skills are to mass kill.. so a detonate cyber eye has plenty of chance to mass vaporize... also top deck have crazy cards like divine terra.. and this are mass killers... but then again.. cyber eyes just maybe not good enough to be in the top decks given so many op and utility cards are needed with priority
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Post by squirreleyez on May 28, 2018 19:43:47 GMT
Okay guys, I got the official answer from the DH team:
Dear Hero
Thank you for your patience! Greetings! Please be informed that we have already looked into the concern you have submitted and thank you for waiting for our feedback. In line with your query, please be informed that Vaporize will activate first. It is before [D] Instakill activates.
We appreciate your enthusiasm.
Thank you for your support and have a nice day. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us via "submit a ticket" or by email: Help.DeckHeroes.android@igg.com.
Yours sincerely, Doms C Deck Heroes Team
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Post by ningthou on May 28, 2018 20:00:55 GMT
Okay guys, I got the official answer from the DH team: Dear Hero
Thank you for your patience! Greetings! Please be informed that we have already looked into the concern you have submitted and thank you for waiting for our feedback. In line with your query, please be informed that Vaporize will activate first. It is before [D] Instakill activates.
We appreciate your enthusiasm.
Thank you for your support and have a nice day. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us via "submit a ticket" or by email: Help.DeckHeroes.android@igg.com.
Yours sincerely, Doms C Deck Heroes Team"We appreciate your enthusiasm" I am dying 😂😂
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Post by ningthou on May 28, 2018 20:01:30 GMT
Okay guys, I got the official answer from the DH team: Dear Hero
Thank you for your patience! Greetings! Please be informed that we have already looked into the concern you have submitted and thank you for waiting for our feedback. In line with your query, please be informed that Vaporize will activate first. It is before [D] Instakill activates.
We appreciate your enthusiasm.
Thank you for your support and have a nice day. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us via "submit a ticket" or by email: Help.DeckHeroes.android@igg.com.
Yours sincerely, Doms C Deck Heroes Team[br "We appreciate your enthusiasm." I am dying 😂😂
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Post by Wilhellm on May 28, 2018 23:20:44 GMT
Okay guys, I got the official answer from the DH team: Dear Hero
Thank you for your patience! Greetings! Please be informed that we have already looked into the concern you have submitted and thank you for waiting for our feedback. In line with your query, please be informed that Vaporize will activate first. It is before [D] Instakill activates.
We appreciate your enthusiasm.
Thank you for your support and have a nice day. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us via "submit a ticket" or by email: Help.DeckHeroes.android@igg.com.
Yours sincerely, Doms C Deck Heroes Team"We appreciate your enthusiasm" I am dying 😂😂 LOL, great stuff! I wish I registered in this forum way sooner
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Post by zamock on May 29, 2018 16:30:25 GMT
Okay guys, I got the official answer from the DH team: Dear Hero
Thank you for your patience! Greetings! Please be informed that we have already looked into the concern you have submitted and thank you for waiting for our feedback. In line with your query, please be informed that Vaporize will activate first. It is before [D] Instakill activates.
We appreciate your enthusiasm.
Thank you for your support and have a nice day. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us via "submit a ticket" or by email: Help.DeckHeroes.android@igg.com.
Yours sincerely, Doms C Deck Heroes TeamSo the instakill/vaporize combo is not viable. I suspected that already. Now it's official
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Post by Wilhellm on May 29, 2018 17:58:06 GMT
Either way, detonate is much better anyhow lol
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Post by nemesisdestroyer on Jun 11, 2018 19:30:42 GMT
dont trust iGG support... they are noobs... they dont even play the game... just do your own testing...
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jun 12, 2018 17:09:30 GMT
dont trust iGG support... they are noobs... they dont even play the game... just do your own testing... That is irrelevant, support asks the devs, devs check the code, devs tell support, support tells you - did you expect support to meld a cybereye with insta to answer the question?
can you imagine waht it would be like if all IGG support had free whale accounts hogging up the top spots in everything?
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Jun 12, 2018 17:33:30 GMT
I will just say: check description on Dark Summoner and then check how her skill actually works and you will see my point...
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jun 13, 2018 16:26:29 GMT
Usually 5/10 or 5/9 cards on enemy have immunity so i wouldnt rely on that odds...plus if Lucidity gets casted or DS, again you will instakill dust Anyway i dont mind (D)Instakill meld its very good, i just prefer Detonate more I know because i had melded that onto one card which have (D)Pyre or something like that when she dies it cast mgc dmg to all cards, so i melded (D)Instakill on it to see and it first Instakill goes off, but dont have that anymore will make it again and make a video to show you. Usually 4th skill goes off first but not always the case, thats why its best to check. Imagine sacrifice 10 Taurus to do Omega Impact first then to do sac hahaha
But sac acts differently - i.e. before the turn starts! (d)sac would be quite a skill though
same goes for sage advice etc.
My feeling is that all skills go off in a specific order from a long list of all skills - and not depending on which creature level they are unlocked at. This should be quite easy to disprove with bless/healers
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