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Post by valinorean on Oct 31, 2018 11:56:03 GMT
I think I will pass platinum spin until Alice comes back.
There is no way to save gems with thia event.
The 4 days one takes 4000 gems!!
o u really think is worth it if..
** If no Druidress, if no really special card that u want, like Omni +13. Or QA or a big card. It seems a waste. Probably you end with Omni +5 or a Hero Rune.
Yes. You can change the cards, but again if you are low on gems. Waiting for Alice seems best to wait and pass.
Also no way to save gems with this event.
Anyone agrees?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Oct 31, 2018 12:05:11 GMT
Im in the same spot, I decided to potentially drop the 4k bond to test the deck - got druidess, Granite and GM on the wheel. Wondering whether to drop the 8K bond too to chase - got Omni13 and faen vigor so far, any more will dro me out of 8K contention I think.
I think I will push through with it, just based on how poor my last few wheels have been.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Oct 31, 2018 13:53:38 GMT
I think I will pass platinum spin until Alice comes back. There is no way to save gems with thia event. The 4 days one takes 4000 gems!! o u really think is worth it if.. ** If no Druidress, if no really special card that u want, like Omni +13. Or QA or a big card. It seems a waste. Probably you end with Omni +5 or a Hero Rune. Yes. You can change the cards, but again if you are low on gems. Waiting for Alice seems best to wait and pass. Also no way to save gems with this event. Anyone agrees? i skip this event most of the time. druidess lv1 is useless for me, and also current meta is damage reduction. High level omni, rare artifacts, big creature like artolia, zodiacs, all vigor rune and artifact fragments are worth to get. But you seldom find these things inside the wheel. Even if you found, u need to have great luck to get them (if u only do 10 spins per day).
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Post by Faebius on Nov 1, 2018 12:46:27 GMT
It seems that the tiles of the platinum wheel work the same way as the tiles of the other (10) ordinary spins. Someone would think that each of those yellow tiles can be hit when spinning for the first time but there is again some pattern in this case too: During the first 4 free spins you ll frequently get the poorest rewards of the wheel - a rune, a low level skill upgrading essence, an ordinary 5 star card, some artifact shards and so on. This means that they programmed the tiles to move that way and the good rewards are always placed on the same tiles. Of course, there could be some exceptions (only when they deliberately want to spice it up a bit and make players spend their gems) but if you chase some reward on a tile, be ready to invest many of your gems in it. In this game everything is under the developers'control and luck comes only when they want to make you spend more.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Nov 2, 2018 16:40:00 GMT
It seems that the tiles of the platinum wheel work the same way as the tiles of the other (10) ordinary spins. Someone would think that each of those yellow tiles can be hit when spinning for the first time but there is again some pattern in this case too: During the first 4 free spins you ll frequently get the poorest rewards of the wheel - a rune, a low level skill upgrading essence, an ordinary 5 star card, some artifact shards and so on. This means that they programmed the tiles to move that way and the good rewards are always placed on the same tiles. Of course, there could be some exceptions (only when they deliberately want to spice it up a bit and make players spend their gems) but if you chase some reward on a tile, be ready to invest many of your gems in it. In this game everything is under the developers'control and luck comes only when they want to make you spend more. You are giving the developers way too much credit here. Your description is just the paranoia that comes about from our naturally inward-looking perspective.
Clearly the platinum wheel is built onto of the regular lucky wheel, so its very likely that each tile has been assigned a 'rarity rating' just like the coloured tiles on the regular wheel. In this case, each tile might be given an individual rarity rating rather than a blocking one, but I think it will still work on the 4 bands as before. Each band will have a prize pool that is randomly assigned (perhaps with its own internal weighting). Certain types of prizes seem to alway appear in the same slots - not sure what your 'moving tiles' hypothesis is about.
My first spin this time was Omni13, clearly of a higher rarity than the 4's and 6's we usually pull. People have pulled the heros first spin too, so they are attainable on the guarenteed spins.
Although everything you assert is possible (and it is obvious to everyone that the developers control the game - considering they develop it), its just too much work to bother. Sure, they could be using machine learning to parse user data in such a way as to maximally 'entice' you to spend - based on some constantly developing algorithm (akin to googles advertising one) BUT its just way too much effort for the small rewards it would bring. The development time would be much better spent developing new content to entice the spending - and would provide them much greater results. At this point even that is falling flat, since every new event is so bugged it never returns!
In short IGG is not 'out to get' YOU, but is out to get US ALL - their plans for this are very macro and visable (game and event design), not these covert conspiracies that bounce around on here.
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Post by Faebius on Nov 5, 2018 8:46:16 GMT
Yes, you are right. I am not a programmer and i don t know how the Lucky Spin technically works. I just tried to suggest using my own words that there are some recognizable patterns when spinning. I got the same poor 4 rewards at the last 3 Platinum events and this fact made me become suspicious. Good luck with it!
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Nov 5, 2018 14:12:20 GMT
Yes, you are right. I am not a programmer and i don t know how the Lucky Spin technically works. I just tried to suggest using my own words that there are some recognizable patterns when spinning. I got the same poor 4 rewards at the last 3 Platinum events and this fact made me become suspicious. Good luck with it! Sure, the low value rewards carry a greter weighting on the wheel - it will be designed that way. The better rewards are rarer to get - but at least you cannot get the same crappy reward twice in each individual event. And they keep giving us 4 goes at it - they could easily make this a 1 day event each time. Platinum wheel is one of the best low cost events we have had to date (I came after heist) and lucky points are pretty good too.
Just don't think that someone at IGG is sat watching you spin the wheel and messing with you! That kind of narsasistic paranoia isn't healthy
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Post by Faebius on Nov 5, 2018 16:31:29 GMT
Thanks again for the info!... I've never imagined someone from IGG watching my moves. )) I only tried to warn the new and naive players that Platinum Wheel is not an act of charity and take care with their gems. Maybe i didn t use the most appropriate and accurate terms but up to paranoia... At last everything in this game is a matter of pixels and gambling such as 3 apples, 3 naked girls and bang! And frustration, i ve almost forgotten about it.
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Post by skal75 on Nov 5, 2018 19:27:42 GMT
I'm not and never will be an IGG defender. But one of my accounts, during the 4 days of the event, got twice the platinum wheel at the second round of ten spins. At the end, it had lit 7 or 8 tiles, without spending more than 10k.
My other account had a Druidess at first round on first day.
My conclusion : seems really luck based.
With an algorithm giving a weight to tiles according to their rarity. Imagine you fill an array with tiles 1 cell for each gold tile 5 cells for each purple tile, etc... mix all cells in the array.
Now imagine a random number is chosen from 1 to the size of the array.
Must be something like this
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Post by dendeze on Nov 6, 2018 6:38:54 GMT
My conclusion : seems really luck based. With an algorithm giving a weight to tiles according to their rarity. Imagine you fill an array with tiles 1 cell for each gold tile 5 cells for each purple tile, etc... mix all cells in the array. Now imagine a random number is chosen from 1 to the size of the array. Must be something like this I disagree, in that logic you would have as much chance to get the gold tile as any other tile. The algoritm will more likely be something like. pick a random number from 1 to 10000. Gold tile will be something like. Number divide by 5000 exactly => gold purple something like; Number divided by 2000 exactly blue: Number divided by 100 green: number diviede by 20 white: all the rest.
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Post by dendeze on Nov 6, 2018 7:33:49 GMT
oh yes now i see... well i blame it on a lack of sleep. you mean something like.
array of size 1000 and of those 1000 : 2 are gold 10 are purple 100 are blue 300 are green and the rest is white.
random number to pick an element out of the array.
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Post by skal75 on Nov 6, 2018 7:42:18 GMT
oh yes now i see... well i blame it on a lack of sleep. you mean something like. array of size 1000 and of those 1000 : 2 are gold 10 are purple 100 are blue 300 are green and the rest is white. random number to pick an element out of the array. yep exactly.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Nov 6, 2018 16:07:56 GMT
My guess is that is exactly how it is programmed
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Post by zoso on Nov 21, 2018 23:52:00 GMT
My other account had a Druidess at first round on first day. Really? My understanding was that you can only obtain the hero tile after the other tiles on the platinum wheel have been completed.
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Post by Faebius on Nov 22, 2018 7:26:50 GMT
This is the 5th Platinum Spin event that i get the SAME poor rewards at the first 4 Platinum wheels: one 5*rune, one rune upgrading essence, one skill essence and tomorrow i will certainly get an ordinary 5*card (Pit Dragon) or another rune/skill essence. I have almost 30k LP and gonna put an end to it. Those poor rewards are programmed to drop more often (and on the first platinum wheels, of course) to make you spend mindlessly in order to get the desired tiles. There can be some exceptions too, but they are "exceptions".
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Post by poecilotheria on Nov 22, 2018 10:16:24 GMT
My first try was on Platinum spin when i got Galerond shade
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Post by Faebius on Nov 22, 2018 10:58:52 GMT
My first try was on Platinum spin when i got Galerond shade I also got a Galerond on my first try (at that time many of us got one and appeared on the system tips chat, coincidence?) but this happened long ago. I doubt i ll get another one during the next years without spending, but who knows?...
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Post by dendeze on Nov 26, 2018 7:54:09 GMT
well count me in the list of people who gat galerond
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Post by japoon on Nov 27, 2018 4:49:01 GMT
Great. He is another OP heroes. Please insist put him in one of your main Deck and you will see his power!
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Post by jp on Nov 27, 2018 20:51:55 GMT
My other account had a Druidess at first round on first day. Really? My understanding was that you can only obtain the hero tile after the other tiles on the platinum wheel have been completed. nope, my 2nd account have 2 druidess and 1 galerond, all on first spin, of course my main account had 0 of any hero.
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Post by jp on Nov 27, 2018 21:11:09 GMT
This is the 5th Platinum Spin event that i get the SAME poor rewards at the first 4 Platinum wheels: one 5*rune, one rune upgrading essence, one skill essence and tomorrow i will certainly get an ordinary 5*card (Pit Dragon) or another rune/skill essence. I have almost 30k LP and gonna put an end to it. Those poor rewards are programmed to drop more often (and on the first platinum wheels, of course) to make you spend mindlessly in order to get the desired tiles. There can be some exceptions too, but they are "exceptions". Whenever I see an ugly wheel like Galerond, 100 artifact fragment, 4 coupon/guild map cards, lvl 5,6 essence, couple might runes, I skip, no reason to waste more then 1000 gems.
from my experience if you get lucky you can get the good rewards in first couple spin, went thru like 5 platinum events in a row with really ugly rewards except for a couple that tempted me, in the end I kept on getting very low lvl skill essence, 100 artifact fragments and coupon/guild map cards, wasting 15k gems and what you know the very next event another very ugly wheel except for that lvl 15 skill essence and I hit it in the first spin for 1k gems.
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Post by japoon on Nov 27, 2018 22:22:17 GMT
This is the 5th Platinum Spin event that i get the SAME poor rewards at the first 4 Platinum wheels: one 5*rune, one rune upgrading essence, one skill essence and tomorrow i will certainly get an ordinary 5*card (Pit Dragon) or another rune/skill essence. I have almost 30k LP and gonna put an end to it. Those poor rewards are programmed to drop more often (and on the first platinum wheels, of course) to make you spend mindlessly in order to get the desired tiles. There can be some exceptions too, but they are "exceptions". Whenever I see an ugly wheel like Galerond, 100 artifact fragment, 4 coupon/guild map cards, lvl 5,6 essence, couple might runes, I skip, no reason to waste more then 1000 gems.
from my experience if you get lucky you can get the good rewards in first couple spin, went thru like 5 platinum events in a row with really ugly rewards except for a couple that tempted me, in the end I kept on getting very low lvl skill essence, 100 artifact fragments and coupon/guild map cards, wasting 15k gems and what you know the very next event another very ugly wheel except for that lvl 15 skill essence and I hit it in the first spin for 1k gems.
Do you mean skipping the Free Spin and wait for the next Platinum Wheels or getting the Free spin? Reset require 500 gems is ridiculous. Most of the time you spent 500 gems to reset and get another rubbish materials. Gems is limites, If you don't spent it wisely, bankrupt will be coming soon
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Post by jp on Nov 27, 2018 23:13:42 GMT
Whenever I see an ugly wheel like Galerond, 100 artifact fragment, 4 coupon/guild map cards, lvl 5,6 essence, couple might runes, I skip, no reason to waste more then 1000 gems.
from my experience if you get lucky you can get the good rewards in first couple spin, went thru like 5 platinum events in a row with really ugly rewards except for a couple that tempted me, in the end I kept on getting very low lvl skill essence, 100 artifact fragments and coupon/guild map cards, wasting 15k gems and what you know the very next event another very ugly wheel except for that lvl 15 skill essence and I hit it in the first spin for 1k gems.
Do you mean skipping the Free Spin and wait for the next Platinum Wheels or getting the Free spin? Reset require 500 gems is ridiculous. Most of the time you spent 500 gems to reset and get another rubbish materials. Gems is limites, If you don't spent it wisely, bankrupt will be coming soon I spent the 1000 gems just to see whats on the wheel, if its ugly I skip the event completely and wait for the next event, I have done 3 wheel rests before and it was a complete waste of gems and ever since the total spending reward has been nerfed I have no temptation to reset the wheels.
I like guaranteed stuff or at least high chance of obtaining something useful, currently sitting on 192k gems, so I would say i am fairly conservative when it comes to gem spending.
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Post by japoon on Dec 3, 2018 8:08:58 GMT
Do you mean skipping the Free Spin and wait for the next Platinum Wheels or getting the Free spin? Reset require 500 gems is ridiculous. Most of the time you spent 500 gems to reset and get another rubbish materials. Gems is limites, If you don't spent it wisely, bankrupt will be coming soon I spent the 1000 gems just to see whats on the wheel, if its ugly I skip the event completely and wait for the next event, I have done 3 wheel rests before and it was a complete waste of gems and ever since the total spending reward has been nerfed I have no temptation to reset the wheels.
I like guaranteed stuff or at least high chance of obtaining something useful, currently sitting on 192k gems, so I would say i am fairly conservative when it comes to gem spending.
You are good at keeping the gems! I always spent to 97k gems level and wait for the Alice Bonds cycle.
My question is that if I spent 1000 gems and see rubbish materials in the Platinum Wheels, can i skip the Free Spin and wait for the other Platinum Wheels Event, will the Lucky Spin refreshed or keep the rubbish materials??
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Post by valinorean on Dec 3, 2018 10:13:33 GMT
I spent the 1000 gems just to see whats on the wheel, if its ugly I skip the event completely and wait for the next event, I have done 3 wheel rests before and it was a complete waste of gems and ever since the total spending reward has been nerfed I have no temptation to reset the wheels.
I like guaranteed stuff or at least high chance of obtaining something useful, currently sitting on 192k gems, so I would say i am fairly conservative when it comes to gem spending.
You are good at keeping the gems! I always spent to 97k gems level and wait for the Alice Bonds cycle.
My question is that if I spent 1000 gems and see rubbish materials in the Platinum Wheels, can i skip the Free Spin and wait for the other Platinum Wheels Event, will the Lucky Spin refreshed or keep the rubbish materials??
I do that. I check the Platinum, if rubish I wait for next Platinum. Every new Platinum cycle wheel refreshes.
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