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Post by japoon on Dec 3, 2018 0:45:58 GMT
Thank for the change. I have 5 accounts with 10+ chests in each account. Over 50 Chest per Lost Relics Event.
The most probability: 4 Stars creatures 2nd: Hdyra Shard 3rd: Common 5* shards like Hummann, Bloodletter, etc Total around 6-8 Adventised Shards in 50 Chest.
Thank for IGG the above change. I have now lots of 4* for upgrading materials and leveling up my Hydra to level10 very soon.
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Post by dendeze on Dec 3, 2018 6:08:13 GMT
first account: 10 chest: 0 advertised shard second account: 7 chest: 0 advertised shard this is becoming bad wow, wow, wow, curious, has you gone thru a bad drought like this before? Update: first account: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards second acocunt: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards For me this was a hydra event (unless it was a hydra event?) before??? you mean to say it hasn''t been like this forever for anyone else? I can only remember a couple of highs - got capri as reward from LR (pre lvl 80) - got aquarius on third booster draw a couple of weeks ago - (got 2 GM from transmutation (after about 100 go's), don't know that is lucky?) And that's it for me... i only got my first revive after lvl 100 (and second account is over lvl 100 still no revive ) I wasn't made for luck
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Post by japoon on Dec 3, 2018 7:51:40 GMT
wow, wow, wow, curious, has you gone thru a bad drought like this before? Update: first account: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards second acocunt: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards For me this was a hydra event (unless it was a hydra event?) before??? you mean to say it hasn''t been like this forever for anyone else? I can only remember a couple of highs - got capri as reward from LR (pre lvl 80) - got aquarius on third booster draw a couple of weeks ago - (got 2 GM from transmutation (after about 100 go's), don't know that is lucky?) And that's it for me... i only got my first revive after lvl 100 (and second account is over lvl 100 still no revive ) I wasn't made for luck It is good for the change.
IGG made the rare card more rare and difficult to obtain.
That mean the rare creature you already had is difficult to be obtained by new players. You will be dominant when facing them.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 3, 2018 14:43:14 GMT
Just the hydra is new from my experience, drop rates have not altered.
No gems so only 6 keys (4 drops), 3 event shards 1 hydra, 1 4*, 1 GM shard.
Pretty good event considering.
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Post by dendeze on Dec 4, 2018 6:10:13 GMT
Holy smokes, and i got nothing I'm starting to think there is a steal button i don't know about... like 'steal someone else event shard'
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 4, 2018 12:20:05 GMT
have had a few quiet LRs recently myself, but have a few decent days inbetween.
I do find it amusing that when people have a bit of bad luck in this game they go completely mental. Bugs, broken, nerfed, everyone has a percecuted mentaility about it.
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Post by skal75 on Dec 4, 2018 12:28:26 GMT
Or maybe some people could accept that some like me are more into intuition/feeling than scientific arguments. Could be really cool. As for me I don't feel persecuted about LR, I just had the feeling something happened to drop rate, after the Hydra shards update. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I feel. Still on strike now, one week without DH. Cant accept this AB in-between period no more. Take care guys.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 4, 2018 12:28:55 GMT
wow, wow, wow, curious, has you gone thru a bad drought like this before? Update: first account: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards second acocunt: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards For me this was a hydra event (unless it was a hydra event?) before??? you mean to say it hasn''t been like this forever for anyone else? I can only remember a couple of highs - got capri as reward from LR (pre lvl 80) - got aquarius on third booster draw a couple of weeks ago - (got 2 GM from transmutation (after about 100 go's), don't know that is lucky?) And that's it for me... i only got my first revive after lvl 100 (and second account is over lvl 100 still no revive ) I wasn't made for luck
So if the drop rate is 10-20%, 10-0 is between a 10% and a 35% expectation (i.e 1 in 10 events to ~1 in 3). The numbers seem to indicate drop rates are 15%+ in my experience.
The 'double even' is more like 1%-12% - so if the droprate were closer to 1 in 10, you would expect to get no shards quite often, and to get nothing from multiple accounts a few times a year.
We need something like 20+ accounts detailing every event to get even a sensible approximation of the drop rates.
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Post by poecilotheria on Dec 4, 2018 14:27:37 GMT
I still think the drop rate is decreasing if you got shards from the advertised creature.
Many times i got 0 shards from LR when i was looking for the last shards what i needed. After i finally finished my card every LR gave me 3-5 advertised shard and the number always worse and worse...that is my experience.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 4, 2018 17:20:27 GMT
I still think the drop rate is decreasing if you got shards from the advertised creature. Many times i got 0 shards from LR when i was looking for the last shards what i needed. After i finally finished my card every LR gave me 3-5 advertised shard and the number always worse and worse...that is my experience.
The low shard counts are more noticable when you are closing in on finishing a card and the dissapointment is hightened, which makes it seem like the world is against you. Perhaps they do shorten the odds above a certain number of shards, but I doubt it - I don't really see any motive to do so. Just because something is more noticable/memorable in a given set of circumstances doesn't evidence conspiracy.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 4, 2018 17:45:30 GMT
Or maybe some people could accept that some like me are more into intuition/feeling than scientific arguments.
Upgraded to full-blown idiot!
Quick intuition test:
Try using your intuition to cross a busy road with a blindfold and ear-guards, then compare it to the 'scientific approach' of using emperical data to cross the road (look and listen for when it is safe to cross).
Your assertion (deeply founded in narcissism) that somehow you alone see the situation clearly and that your limited experience provides a greater insight than any logical investigation of fact or collective observation; has been a reoccuring problem in the history of humanity.
To quote Douglas Adams; Arthur Dent: “All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was." "No," said Slartibartfast, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.”
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Post by dendeze on Dec 5, 2018 6:27:43 GMT
Or maybe some people could accept that some like me are more into intuition/feeling than scientific arguments.
Upgraded to full-blown idiot!
Quick intuition test:
Try using your intuition to cross a busy road with a blindfold and ear-guards, then compare it to the 'scientific approach' of using emperical data to cross the road (look and listen for when it is safe to cross).
Your assertion (deeply founded in narcissism) that somehow you alone see the situation clearly and that your limited experience provides a greater insight than any logical investigation of fact or collective observation; has been a reoccuring problem in the history of humanity.
To quote Douglas Adams; Arthur Dent: “All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was." "No," said Slartibartfast, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.”
+ for a quote from The hitchhickers guide to the galaxy! in some countries, it is easier to just cross the road, walking really realy slowly so the drivers see you... But in a civilized society, wait for the lights
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Post by dendeze on Dec 5, 2018 6:30:53 GMT
Update: first account: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards second acocunt: 10 chest - 0 advertised shards For me this was a hydra event (unless it was a hydra event?) before??? you mean to say it hasn''t been like this forever for anyone else? I can only remember a couple of highs - got capri as reward from LR (pre lvl 80) - got aquarius on third booster draw a couple of weeks ago - (got 2 GM from transmutation (after about 100 go's), don't know that is lucky?) And that's it for me... i only got my first revive after lvl 100 (and second account is over lvl 100 still no revive ) I wasn't made for luck
So if the drop rate is 10-20%, 10-0 is between a 10% and a 35% expectation (i.e 1 in 10 events to ~1 in 3). The numbers seem to indicate drop rates are 15%+ in my experience.
The 'double even' is more like 1%-12% - so if the droprate were closer to 1 in 10, you would expect to get no shards quite often, and to get nothing from multiple accounts a few times a year.
We need something like 20+ accounts detailing every event to get even a sensible approximation of the drop rates.
Indeed, we need a lot more data. (specially since i'm a big data bi consultant ) and then again, if everybody would post their data we still can't guarantee that data is correct. But i'm lazy I prefer nagging, it calms my brain down. In the past there were time i got like 6-7 event shards, yeay for me, so i do believe it wil balance itself out.
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Post by skal75 on Dec 5, 2018 6:42:46 GMT
Or maybe some people could accept that some like me are more into intuition/feeling than scientific arguments.
Upgraded to full-blown idiot!
Quick intuition test:
Try using your intuition to cross a busy road with a blindfold and ear-guards, then compare it to the 'scientific approach' of using emperical data to cross the road (look and listen for when it is safe to cross).
Your assertion (deeply founded in narcissism) that somehow you alone see the situation clearly and that your limited experience provides a greater insight than any logical investigation of fact or collective observation; has been a reoccuring problem in the history of humanity.
To quote Douglas Adams; Arthur Dent: “All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was." "No," said Slartibartfast, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.”
You're so wrong about me and full of anger. Well, i'm sooo "stupid" I'm gonna explain kindly without any insult of any kind one last time. I've never said I was right. Please reread. I'm just saying, I'm more into intuition. I take my decisions quickly according to what I feel. Maybe I should sit alone with my thoughts, but sometimes I share some here with you guys. And here, this is just what I did. I'm not saying it's the truth. I want to discuss about something worrying me. That's all. PS : about narcissism, maybe you should start reading your own posts. We're all happy to know you read books though. Take care.
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Post by valinorean on Dec 5, 2018 21:02:32 GMT
Seems they improved the Relic!! Dragon Shards today instead of Hydra. So seems we gonna have all attunement Heores shards soon?
Drop rates of keys and shards quite acceptable today.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Dec 6, 2018 12:08:07 GMT
Or maybe some people could accept that some like me are more into intuition/feeling than scientific arguments.
Upgraded to full-blown idiot!
Quick intuition test:
Try using your intuition to cross a busy road with a blindfold and ear-guards, then compare it to the 'scientific approach' of using emperical data to cross the road (look and listen for when it is safe to cross).
Your assertion (deeply founded in narcissism) that somehow you alone see the situation clearly and that your limited experience provides a greater insight than any logical investigation of fact or collective observation; has been a reoccuring problem in the history of humanity.
To quote Douglas Adams; Arthur Dent: “All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was." "No," said Slartibartfast, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.”
Ohhh this reply is so much like Yuna's style. I started to miss him in this forum =P
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Post by jp on Dec 7, 2018 4:00:14 GMT
Just posting yesterday's results
Main 1: 9 keys, 1 advertised shard, 2 (5*) omni's Main 2: 5 keys, 0 advertised shard, 2 (5*) omni's
out of curiosity did 2 energy account as well, only up to map 12 cleared.
energy 1: 10 keys, 0 advertised shard, 2 (5*) omni's energy 2: 3 keys, 1 advertised shard, 1 (5*) omni's
So, total 27 keys for 2 advertised shards, bad streak continues for Main #2, after 8 events, only 2 total advertised shard, after so many LR, one thing for sure is more keys doesn't equate to more advertised shard or 5* omni's, its so YMMV what each account gets.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 7, 2018 16:18:44 GMT
Yeah, 4 keys and 2-3 shards again yesterday. Just hope it lasts into the next hanzo event!
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 7, 2018 17:09:44 GMT
Upgraded to full-blown idiot!
Quick intuition test:
Try using your intuition to cross a busy road with a blindfold and ear-guards, then compare it to the 'scientific approach' of using emperical data to cross the road (look and listen for when it is safe to cross).
Your assertion (deeply founded in narcissism) that somehow you alone see the situation clearly and that your limited experience provides a greater insight than any logical investigation of fact or collective observation; has been a reoccuring problem in the history of humanity.
To quote Douglas Adams; Arthur Dent: “All through my life I've had this strange unaccountable feeling that something was going on in the world, something big, even sinister, and no one would tell me what it was." "No," said Slartibartfast, "that's just perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the Universe has that.”
You're so wrong about me and full of anger. I'm not, on both accounts - but continue.Well, i'm sooo "stupid" I'm gonna explain kindly without any insult of any kind one last time. I originally said that your post was stupid, with an explaination as to why. Even 'smart' people say stupid things sometimes, unfortunately you kept pumping out 'gold'.I've never said I was right. FACT: CONCLUSION: along with several further statements about how you are right. I could post some quotes from your posts here but Betrayal starts soon and I need to get food!Please reread. I'm just saying, I'm more into intuition. I take my decisions quickly according to what I feel. Sure, everyone does this. Most of us prefer to have some sort of information to help us make better desicions. I refer back to my 'straw man' above. 'Gut feelings' are easily manipulated as they are predominantly emotionally driven {insert reference here}. Lots of examples out there about this topic.Maybe I should sit alone with my thoughts, but sometimes I share some here with you guys. Yes, thats all fine. I was in agreement with your points in general as I had also seen issues over a few LR events - a couple of which were certainly bugged. If you look back, my critisism was actually about the content of your emails. They didn't demonstrate anything that cannot be explained easily by RNG and, at best, would add to a background noise of discontent. That might have some limited impact over time, but I explained my position that this type of complaint needs to be data driven.And here, this is just what I did. I'm not saying it's the truth. I want to discuss about something worrying me. FACT: CONCLUSION: again it's all in the language used. You brush off plausable explanations and insist you know your right. Discussing things is fantastic, way of the future. 'Discuss' is two way communication, when the return argument is 'I know best' (read:intuition) it becomes a serman. Example: Manmade Climate change is thing {insert large volumes of scientific research}. Rebuttle. No its not. Why? My gut tells me it's not. That's all. PS : about narcissism, maybe you should start reading your own posts. We're all happy to know you read books though. Take care. To be fair, my comment does read that I am calling you specifically narcasistic - what I actually meant was that your 'intuition' argument is inherantly narcissistic, not that you are specifically a narcissist yourself. Most of that stuff is pop culture and memes, I don't really have time to read books these days. If you want a better comeback, have a look at this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect. My own narcissism is differently founded, we all are inherently self-serving by 'design'. The diffence is between "You are wrong" and "I think you are wrong because ...". At the end of the day, imagine if something like the law worked purely on 'gut feeling' - not a fun place to live.
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Dec 8, 2018 13:36:09 GMT
Since some of you cant talk normal and arguing on polite way without insulting others, no matter how wrong or right they are, thread will be locked.
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Post by japoon on Dec 21, 2018 0:55:34 GMT
Need to the bottom.
This time Lost Relics. 5 Accounts total 53 chests. Only 4 Plague Doctor Shard found. Less than 10% rate.
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