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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 13, 2018 16:45:21 GMT
Cool! Yes, I've tested the Battleblow rune on top of Michael's bullseye. Also, tested on bb-anathema (soon to be sac-anathema), bb-Graboid, bb-panther-chief, sac-grab, bb-Titiana top of chainstrike, bb-twins and so on...... But never really felt the ground move... I feel Grandfather put me on the right track with the rune levels. I've stopped at lv5 runes, through out... Don't ask me why?? Lol! And as I understood it, the difference between lv9 and lv10 runes are huge... Like sick difference. So going for lv10 Battleblow, Torment, bullseye and Immunity runes. I've got 5 or 6 of each BB and Immune rune so I'm looking for a shortcut to glory... Turning every rock as I go... My future now seems to be hanging out by the altar, under the "draw 100% usable, un-usable (IGG certified 2% guaranteed) pre-used pile of s*** ". Please take this complementary signed 5 ticket-draw for extra pile!! Hahaha! Upping my Runes will be a blast and I know I'll see the reward when it's done. Any tip on gaining rune-xp will be very appreciated!
How in the world did you get 5/6 BB and immunity rune?, all from Platinum spin?, I've spent close to 150k gems and have yet to even see 1 of these runes.
Have fun upgrading those runes to lvl 10, you will need roughly around 2 million+ to get a gold rune to lvl 10, I stopped my conceal strike @ lvl 9 for now since I need to upgrade some other runes, with everything combined (Raid, guild mall, guild war, bazzar), I roughly get around 20k glory per day (I might get more if I could spend more time in raid but I don't), so it'll take me about 100 days to get a gold rune to lvl 10, that is if I don't upgrade anything else.
I know some people have set up their Alternate account for raiding to get ton's of glory, I have tried with no success, only seen it a couple times in 2 month, so I have given up on that idea for now, but in the process I have raided other people's Alt, 1 special raid granted me a whooping total of 100k glory.
another way is to refresh the guild mall for 20gems for 2.5k glory (cost might go up after a couple refreshes knowing IGG), only if you have excess gems to burn.
wish I had hunt for more glory in the earlier days of my DH life, there just wasn't that much need of it, hardly got anything other then blue runes, ever since Platinum spin, gold runes start to show up even from Alter, finally got my very first gold hero V rune after freaking 1.5 years then another one couple month later, then haste and initiate rage, all of them within a few month, what happened to my first 1.5 years, lol, now i need what seems to be a black hole amount of glory.
You might ask the Old master for his secret, but the key to hunting your alt will be setting the correct deck power during raiding. I don't alt (bloody game takes enough time as is!) but I assume you want to go as low as possible while you hunt. You will need to reset the protection between each search too, or wait 2 hrs. You will need a strong lower power deck for general GP hunting as your regular deck to keep your goodies safe inbetween.
GP can be harder to hunt early - the biggest thing is to not upgrade every hero you find early on.
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Post by jp on Dec 13, 2018 16:48:22 GMT
if you can use im10 from cancer or vindicator. I10 is way way way better then i9 (i9 is the ftp alternative to i10 ) As for snow harlets, unmelded ones, disposal or instakill Melded with i10 they are a pain in your dark hole. You could use: - md so they don't do anything except heal. - use poison with the poison rune (forgot the name of the rune for the hero) - capricon can hit them - hellfire from flamesummoner can hurt them - requiem from VS can immobilize them - the good crits like Rakshasa that do damage to all crits (the expensive crits ) - octavius - Chiroptera (if he gets more then 3K health) So some of these should do the trick for SH then!!! .. I'll try out rakash and pixie. Osiris, DL or RD good on those if MD is supporting?
If you are talking about Guild maps, Wraith hunter and high lvl Spirit Arbiter can do huge amount of damage, I have done close to 200k with wraith hunter and I didn't go all out, Berserker +MD, warlock, taurus, capricorn, I would imagine can also do huge amount.
Dragon lancer is a no go against snow harlet, she blocks any form of magic, you need direct damage, poison, reflect.
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Post by jp on Dec 13, 2018 16:58:32 GMT
If I didn't remember wrongly, Ronin was sold at 22500 gems 10 Shards + something extra like sparks. If you need 100 Shards, we need 225000 gems. If you play as FTP, you have to wait for 5 Alice Bonds Cycle without spending in between. For now, Alice Bonds was Launched 2 to 3 time a year. Which mean as a Ftp, you have to play for around 2 year to get a free Ronin Yes, but now its even better deal, 24500 for 15 shards and extra goodies. And you are wrong, all you need is 3 full AB cycle to complete full Ron, because you will be buyin 3 packs at once not 1 by 1 pack 59,000 gems per cycle, so it would be 2 x 2 x 3 pack in 3 AB cycle, however not being able to spend a penny in 3 cycles would be.......................?
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Post by jp on Dec 13, 2018 17:26:57 GMT
You might ask the Old master for his secret, but the key to hunting your alt will be setting the correct deck power during raiding. I don't alt (bloody game takes enough time as is!) but I assume you want to go as low as possible while you hunt. You will need to reset the protection between each search too, or wait 2 hrs. You will need a strong lower power deck for general GP hunting as your regular deck to keep your goodies safe inbetween.
GP can be harder to hunt early - the biggest thing is to not upgrade every hero you find early on.
Old master won't tell, maybe after he is all done, you are right about setting the right deck power, I have tried anywhere from 500 to 3k power with not much success, low power is a no go for me, there are insane amount of dead account in that range, I did find a 500k account once in the 3k range, I had to pinch my self .
As far as protection goes, it will be very hard with so much direct damage going around, for now I have given up, spending too much time as is, might play with it when I have more free time.
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Post by jp on Dec 13, 2018 17:40:40 GMT
Rune levels, yes and no. It is very true that for the new runes (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Torment_Rune) they scale non-linearly, and so provide a much greater benefit in line with the vastly increased upgrade cost. This is not true of the older runes (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Battleblow_Rune) where the power growth is very linear compared to the very non-linear cost increase (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Runes) - cost doubles for each subsequent level. In view of this, your current investment in upgrades is entirely justified. As a side note, I think most of us have settled on L5 as optimal investment ofr linear runes - have a look around you in the arena/tourney. Battleblow is 25% at L5, and 50% at L10 - I'm not sure its really worth going past 6 or 7 on anything past voodoo (lower rarity so lower cost) where the power scales linearly (eg vit, prot, viol etc.). The exception could be sac rune, but I'm less than convinced its worth it past 7. Same goes for imm, and bullseye - although I'm not sure many people use this anyway (violV is more reliable damage). Yep, I'm thinking I've been pretty unlucky with runes from lucky spin. 1 imm (recently) and a tit for tat. For hero runes, pour everything into an L8 hero vigor V, then its initial rage. I've still not got any high level all vig/atk to punp anything into - not sure where these drop from.
Don't think you are the only one, I have spent over 250k gems with 2 accounts combined with a total of 3 dodge rune, I would take that Imm rune over my dodge any day.
you can get gold All might/all vigor from platinum spin, I have got All might (not really using it except GM), but that gold All vigor still eludes me which is much more important.
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Post by japoon on Dec 14, 2018 10:23:07 GMT
Actually the return on investment for Platinum Wheel is very low.
Not counting to reset the Wheel, 4 days Platinum Wheel need 4000 gems. Most of the time, we only got Rubbish Materials, lvl5 Omni Essence, Normal 5* Creatures, Human Vigor etc. Which I already had tons!
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Post by ruklo on Dec 14, 2018 13:36:52 GMT
Actually the return on investment for Platinum Wheel is very low. Not counting to reset the Wheel, 4 days Platinum Wheel need 4000 gems. Most of the time, we only got Rubbish Materials, lvl5 Omni Essence, Normal 5* Creatures, Human Vigor etc. Which I already had tons! so, whats the best investment now? Ultima? LR? 3rd mine? lets compare Ultima and Platinum Ultima: 8000 gems aprox 15 shards of creature + probably 5* good creature so for 30-32K gems you get the creature + probably 2 x 5* good creature + other goodies (do not recall which, my last ultima was 6 month ago) Platinum: 4000 gems lets say: 1 LVL 10 omni, one 5* creature and lvl5 rune (swap as you will with other omnis, runes, artifacts etc) (during 40 spins probably you will get another rune (4* rare), creature) aprox 10000 tickets (4000 for 40 spins + 6000 as random.) this is 1/3 of a 30K LP creature or rune. with 30-32K gems in Platinum you get 8 times full spinning (in consecutive events - not all the same event.: 8 x 10000 tickets = 80000 ie: 2 LP creatures (+ omni shards) or good 5* lp rune or a hero. + omnis and some 5* common creatures.... (also there are posts in which 70-80K where all spend in the same event.)
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Dec 15, 2018 8:42:06 GMT
Rune levels, yes and no. It is very true that for the new runes (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Torment_Rune) they scale non-linearly, and so provide a much greater benefit in line with the vastly increased upgrade cost. This is not true of the older runes (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Battleblow_Rune) where the power growth is very linear compared to the very non-linear cost increase (http://deck-heroes.wikia.com/wiki/Runes) - cost doubles for each subsequent level. In view of this, your current investment in upgrades is entirely justified. As a side note, I think most of us have settled on L5 as optimal investment ofr linear runes - have a look around you in the arena/tourney. Battleblow is 25% at L5, and 50% at L10 - I'm not sure its really worth going past 6 or 7 on anything past voodoo (lower rarity so lower cost) where the power scales linearly (eg vit, prot, viol etc.). The exception could be sac rune, but I'm less than convinced its worth it past 7. Same goes for imm, and bullseye - although I'm not sure many people use this anyway (violV is more reliable damage). Yep, I'm thinking I've been pretty unlucky with runes from lucky spin. 1 imm (recently) and a tit for tat. For hero runes, pour everything into an L8 hero vigor V, then its initial rage. I've still not got any high level all vig/atk to punp anything into - not sure where these drop from.
Don't think you are the only one, I have spent over 250k gems with 2 accounts combined with a total of 3 dodge rune, I would take that Imm rune over my dodge any day.
you can get gold All might/all vigor from platinum spin, I have got All might (not really using it except GM), but that gold All vigor still eludes me which is much more important.
My main is unlucky with lucky spin too. I think the luck is account based lol Main: Alt:Immunity rune x1 Immunity rune x1 Dodge rune x0 Dodge rune x 3-4 All vigor x0 All vigor x3 All might x0 All might x1
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Post by jp on Dec 16, 2018 6:17:20 GMT
Don't think you are the only one, I have spent over 250k gems with 2 accounts combined with a total of 3 dodge rune, I would take that Imm rune over my dodge any day.
you can get gold All might/all vigor from platinum spin, I have got All might (not really using it except GM), but that gold All vigor still eludes me which is much more important.
My main is unlucky with lucky spin too. I think the luck is account based lol Main: Alt:Immunity rune x1 Immunity rune x1 Dodge rune x0 Dodge rune x 3-4 All vigor x0 All vigor x3 All might x0 All might x1
one thing I know is that the luck isn't purely random, it seems to repeat in the same area with each account.
acct 1: acct 2:
Immunity rune x0 immunity rune x0
dodge rune x2 dodge rune x1
all vigor x0 all vigor x0
all might x1 all might x1
rare 5* (regular spin) rare 5* (regular spin) snow harlot x2 nothing
rakashaha x 2 chiropetra x1
rare 5* (platinum wheel) rare 5* (platinum wheel) spirit caller x2 spirit caller x4 tarus x2
5* hero (platinum wheel) 5* hero (platinum wheel) nothing druidess x2 galerond x1
high lvl skill essence (lvl 12+) high lvl skill essence (lvl 12+) lvl 15 x2 nothing
lvl 13 x1
3x All vigor, that is insanely lucky(I have only seen it about 3/4 times total), wonder if that account has also gotten other goodies like druidess, high lvl skill essence, good rare 5* ?
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Post by dendeze on Dec 17, 2018 6:02:49 GMT
So some of these should do the trick for SH then!!! .. I'll try out rakash and pixie. Osiris, DL or RD good on those if MD is supporting? Pisces (over MD) is great for wrecking the harlots in GM. Also, Vacuum bomb does damage in GM - but i10 makes that useless. Any form of direct damage works.
Battleblow rune is the was to go, if you are lucky enough have one - it also negates FA and block. You are absolutly right!, I thought about her the evening i posted the (not complete) list.
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Post by dendeze on Dec 17, 2018 6:09:18 GMT
The trick used to be to only finding your alt once, and then everyday you need to battle against is. The 'rematch'(or is it revenge) button. But you needed to ping pong between them.
Don't know if it is still possible.
On the runes part. Main account: no hero vigor 5 till lvl 102 (and the last week i got like 4) 2 years nothing , a couple of months ago 1 and now 4 in a week... just bonkers
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Dec 17, 2018 7:28:20 GMT
My main is unlucky with lucky spin too. I think the luck is account based lol Main: Alt:Immunity rune x1 Immunity rune x1 Dodge rune x0 Dodge rune x 3-4 All vigor x0 All vigor x3 All might x0 All might x1
one thing I know is that the luck isn't purely random, it seems to repeat in the same area with each account.
acct 1: acct 2:
Immunity rune x0 immunity rune x0
dodge rune x2 dodge rune x1
all vigor x0 all vigor x0
all might x1 all might x1
rare 5* (regular spin) rare 5* (regular spin) snow harlot x2 nothing
rakashaha x 2 chiropetra x1
rare 5* (platinum wheel) rare 5* (platinum wheel) spirit caller x2 spirit caller x4 tarus x2
5* hero (platinum wheel) 5* hero (platinum wheel) nothing druidess x2 galerond x1
high lvl skill essence (lvl 12+) high lvl skill essence (lvl 12+) lvl 15 x2 nothing
lvl 13 x1
3x All vigor, that is insanely lucky(I have only seen it about 3/4 times total), wonder if that account has also gotten other goodies like druidess, high lvl skill essence, good rare 5* ?
Yeah in fact my alt wasn't doing much lucky spin, if compared to the main account. Both accounts have no full hero from lucky spin. Main's omni essences are meh, highest is lv12. Alt has LV14 and lv12. Wow your acc2 got two full druidess from ls!!
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Post by jp on Dec 17, 2018 19:54:21 GMT
Yeah in fact my alt wasn't doing much lucky spin, if compared to the main account. Both accounts have no full hero from lucky spin. Main's omni essences are meh, highest is lv12. Alt has LV14 and lv12. Wow your acc2 got two full druidess from ls!! Yeah, and all 3 heroes on first spin, however finding those discount druidess shards is proven to be tougher then getting it.
My acct2 also only spent about 60/70% of what my acct1 did but yet, other then skill essence (only 1 lvl 11) its putting my acct 1 to shame, not to mention its also getting much more bonus LP then my acct 1, spending more doesn't mean getting more, what gives.
3 All vigor vs 2 druidess, not sure which one is better.
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Post by jp on Dec 17, 2018 20:09:14 GMT
Actually the return on investment for Platinum Wheel is very low. Not counting to reset the Wheel, 4 days Platinum Wheel need 4000 gems. Most of the time, we only got Rubbish Materials, lvl5 Omni Essence, Normal 5* Creatures, Human Vigor etc. Which I already had tons! so, whats the best investment now? Ultima? LR? 3rd mine? lets compare Ultima and Platinum Ultima: 8000 gems aprox 15 shards of creature + probably 5* good creature so for 30-32K gems you get the creature + probably 2 x 5* good creature + other goodies (do not recall which, my last ultima was 6 month ago) Platinum: 4000 gems lets say: 1 LVL 10 omni, one 5* creature and lvl5 rune (swap as you will with other omnis, runes, artifacts etc) (during 40 spins probably you will get another rune (4* rare), creature) aprox 10000 tickets (4000 for 40 spins + 6000 as random.) this is 1/3 of a 30K LP creature or rune. with 30-32K gems in Platinum you get 8 times full spinning (in consecutive events - not all the same event.: 8 x 10000 tickets = 80000 ie: 2 LP creatures (+ omni shards) or good 5* lp rune or a hero. + omnis and some 5* common creatures.... (also there are posts in which 70-80K where all spend in the same event.)
You must be insanely lucky, 150% bonus LP, my acct 1 is only getting about 40%, acct 2 about 70% on average.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Dec 18, 2018 5:30:49 GMT
Yeah in fact my alt wasn't doing much lucky spin, if compared to the main account. Both accounts have no full hero from lucky spin. Main's omni essences are meh, highest is lv12. Alt has LV14 and lv12. Wow your acc2 got two full druidess from ls!! Yeah, and all 3 heroes on first spin, however finding those discount druidess shards is proven to be tougher then getting it.
My acct2 also only spent about 60/70% of what my acct1 did but yet, other then skill essence (only 1 lvl 11) its putting my acct 1 to shame, not to mention its also getting much more bonus LP then my acct 1, spending more doesn't mean getting more, what gives.
3 All vigor vs 2 druidess, not sure which one is better.
i will choose all vigor rune.. current meta not favor druidess
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Post by dendeze on Dec 18, 2018 5:47:46 GMT
The trick used to be to only finding your alt once, and then everyday you need to battle against is. The 'rematch'(or is it revenge) button. But you needed to ping pong between them. Don't know if it is still possible. On the runes part. Main account: no hero vigor 5 till lvl 102 (and the last week i got like 4) 2 years nothing , a couple of months ago 1 and now 4 in a week... just bonkers Finding yourself is imo pretty easy. Lowest hero and crit on both accounts, nobody uses 1 crit. Try it and let me know how long it took you
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Dec 19, 2018 15:32:06 GMT
The trick used to be to only finding your alt once, and then everyday you need to battle against is. The 'rematch'(or is it revenge) button. But you needed to ping pong between them. Don't know if it is still possible. On the runes part. Main account: no hero vigor 5 till lvl 102 (and the last week i got like 4) 2 years nothing , a couple of months ago 1 and now 4 in a week... just bonkers Finding yourself is imo pretty easy. Lowest hero and crit on both accounts, nobody uses 1 crit. Try it and let me know how long it took you
Been raided much today? ;P
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Post by dendeze on Dec 19, 2018 16:12:00 GMT
Finding yourself is imo pretty easy. Lowest hero and crit on both accounts, nobody uses 1 crit. Try it and let me know how long it took you
Been raided much today? ;P
No only ruklo has been attacking me in arena and he keeps taking my third place that is what you can except from your own guildleader
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Post by ruklo on Dec 19, 2018 17:55:00 GMT
Been raided much today? ;P
No only ruklo has been attacking me in arena and he keeps taking my third place that is what you can except from your own guildleader hey, no hard feeling. You know we Kangaroos like a good fight. but Currently Im place 2, do not know how long is going to last (lucky nr2 was a raid deck) . If you have chance to fight me, I will lower my deck . its 800 gems...
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Post by dendeze on Dec 20, 2018 8:22:23 GMT
No only ruklo has been attacking me in arena and he keeps taking my third place that is what you can except from your own guildleader hey, no hard feeling. You know we Kangaroos like a good fight. but Currently Im place 2, do not know how long is going to last (lucky nr2 was a raid deck) . If you have chance to fight me, I will lower my deck . its 800 gems... Thx!, highest i've been is place 2, it's deldreka's place i would like take (only if it's for a minute) I get lucky in the morning, that's when @squireleyes uses his raid deck and sometimes @mitty too
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