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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 22, 2015 1:17:48 GMT
The Grizzly kills Hero Rage immensely, could be a decent counter to Wight. No Death Curse is a big hit to Wight's power.
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Post by Hitmus2✪NFS(xerks) on May 12, 2015 10:54:33 GMT
Wight is ultimate 4* Hero. Very versatile even very good in any mix faction deck.
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Post by mingying on May 12, 2015 12:56:00 GMT
There is a reason why 8-11 is arguably one of the hardest dungeon in game. My vote goes to berserker, but building a decent neander deck is so damn hard compared to other factions. For example, no graboids until you have reached stage 10 (and clearing most of it)
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Post by derpy✪NFS on May 12, 2015 13:48:02 GMT
Berserker is very good, but you need him at least lv 5. Then *maybe* he'd be the best. But a cripple/undying Wight has to be the best overall hero for utility. It plays brilliantly in auto (because the cripple almost guarantees you a good start, and undying means there is far more room for error on your recyclers) as well as being best in guild map. With manual control it's still awesome.
Berserker at 5+ is the best summon hero with DR in a very close second, IMO. Mainly because ice shell is such a good setup tool, and spiky bits is far more easily countered- but the boars are simply lethal once they start setting up. Deathmort is garbage IMO, the puppets never seem to survive long enough to truly set up and are easily dealt with, it pales in comparison to Wight. Predator is definitely an interesting alternative to Devil Hunter, but DH seems like the best Faen hero still since the fix to entangle.
I would be choosing Wight/Berserker/Dragon Rider/Devil Hunter in that order for my favorite heros.
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Post by stuuu✪NFS on May 12, 2015 14:14:48 GMT
I have lvl 6 Wight, lvl 5 Berserker, lvl 5 Devil Hunter, lvl 4 Predator, lvl 5 Dragon Rider, and lvl 5 Paw Master
Wight is definitely the most versatile, but Berserker can be extremely difficult to beat. Plus spikey bits simply wins against decks with too much magic. Devil Hunter is meh. Predator is awful, but perhaps I'll feel differently when it's lvl 5. Dragon Rider is mostly awful. It's kind of a jack of no trades. Ice armor (or whatever it's called) is great and all, but it's not much better than full alert or agile. Paw Master is awful. I would always rather have Wight or Berserker. Really all I ever use are Wight and Berserker.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on May 12, 2015 19:35:32 GMT
I have lvl 6 Wight, lvl 5 Berserker, lvl 5 Devil Hunter, lvl 4 Predator, lvl 5 Dragon Rider, and lvl 5 Paw Master Wight is definitely the most versatile, but Berserker can be extremely difficult to beat. Plus spikey bits simply wins against decks with too much magic. Devil Hunter is meh. Predator is awful, but perhaps I'll feel differently when it's lvl 5. Dragon Rider is mostly awful. It's kind of a jack of no trades. Ice armor (or whatever it's called) is great and all, but it's not much better than full alert or agile. Paw Master is awful. I would always rather have Wight or Berserker. Really all I ever use are Wight and Berserker. Dragon Rider is a beast Lv.5+. I use Firestorm + Death Cloud with him (I have Patriach Lv.5 with Ice Shell 9 for Human defense purposes). Firestorm + Immolation basically ensures the enemy creatures are always burned, making Royal Dancer (and any Human Melded with Sneak) incredibly dangerous. I'm Melding a Techno-Chief with Sneak 8 after I'm done with my Guild Map Melds
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Nov 26, 2015 12:08:55 GMT
Even if undying procs successfully on 6 different cards, this guys Recycle 2 on Graboid and Mystic would own your cards twice! And Paragon completely cancels the strongest aspect of Mortii. I'm sure he spent 100's to get it so for sure one of the rare instances but his deck counters Magic and Rebirth. Don't get me wrong, I have Wight at lvl 3 personally with the majority of my 5* and melded 4* cards as Mortii, but after playing that deck I cried. On top of that OP deck, he had lvl 5+ boars to add to the fun. I haven't seen any of the high end players using Deathmort, which leads me to believe Wight's Curse is superior for sure. Being able to say "if you have any magic damage in your deck I win" is just broken and I want it! I would pick this deck one by one using brutes while using my weakest hero. that way I would be able to make it weak.. It will take time though..
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Post by copy✪NFS on Nov 26, 2015 13:04:51 GMT
If I had to choose a lvl 10 hero I think Dragon Rider outscales Wight and Berserker. But under lvl 10 my list goes: ·Wight ·Berserker ·Dragon Rider
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Post by aketto on Nov 28, 2015 19:11:33 GMT
Wight>Dragon Rider>Berserker even at lvl 10.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 29, 2015 2:41:19 GMT
Wight>Dragon Rider>Berserker even at lvl 10. DR, Berserker and Predator at lvl 10 are beasts. Wight lvl 10 doesn't have a chance against them IMO. Wight will most probably cast death curse on boars, dragons and bears while they keep pounding Wight.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Nov 29, 2015 11:10:23 GMT
Knowing what I know now, I would rate Predator 10x higher. His ability to control hero rage as well as survive almost indefinitely at lv 10 is invaluable, and he has a very solid niche. In competitive tournament play, he's probably the only 4* hero thats viable at the very high end. Lethal counter to curse and stabthrough decks. The downside is he needs very specific decks to work effectively, but still has the best long term value. DR, Berserker and Wight are all thoroughly outclassed at high end, even at lv 10.
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Post by drakkan on Nov 29, 2015 13:06:07 GMT
Knowing what I know now, I would rate Predator 10x higher. His ability to control hero rage as well as survive almost indefinitely at lv 10 is invaluable, and he has a very solid niche. In competitive tournament play, he's probably the only 4* hero thats viable at the very high end. Lethal counter to curse and stabthrough decks. The downside is he needs very specific decks to work effectively, but still has the best long term value. DR, Berserker and Wight are all thoroughly outclassed at high end, even at lv 10. Its really hard to compare high end usability of 4* heroes .. as at high end (as much as 4* heroes are concerned) it comes down to creatures .. Currently at top100 Wight is the most frequent 4* hero .. month ago before the era of 5* heroes, you could see Dragon Riders (replaced by Warlocks), Predators (replaced by Judgements) and Berzerkers (who mainly were filler decks, used at last spot usually with just 1 or no recyclers ) I guess Wight stayed as its hardly replaced by mortii 5* hero (Geddon is hard to get, and Wight is better than Overlord) .. and imo he's most versatile and among all 4* heroes he has best chances vs 5* heroes .. Other heroes might be viable, but they would require really good set of cards .. where wight can actually kill something even without sac Anathema
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Nov 29, 2015 14:05:19 GMT
Knowing what I know now, I would rate Predator 10x higher. His ability to control hero rage as well as survive almost indefinitely at lv 10 is invaluable, and he has a very solid niche. In competitive tournament play, he's probably the only 4* hero thats viable at the very high end. Lethal counter to curse and stabthrough decks. The downside is he needs very specific decks to work effectively, but still has the best long term value. DR, Berserker and Wight are all thoroughly outclassed at high end, even at lv 10. Its really hard to compare high end usability of 4* heroes .. as at high end (as much as 4* heroes are concerned) it comes down to creatures .. Currently at top100 Wight is the most frequent 4* hero .. month ago before the era of 5* heroes, you could see Dragon Riders (replaced by Warlocks), Predators (replaced by Judgements) and Berzerkers (who mainly were filler decks, used at last spot usually with just 1 or no recyclers ) I guess Wight stayed as its hardly replaced by mortii 5* hero (Geddon is hard to get, and Wight is better than Overlord) .. and imo he's most versatile and among all 4* heroes he has best chances vs 5* heroes .. Other heroes might be viable, but they would require really good set of cards .. where wight can actually kill something even without sac Anathema That's exactly why he's most useful. Once you have the cards and runes to make creatures your prime damage source, heroes that maintain and support as opposed to being a damage focus are preferable. DR is cool, but at a high level the dragon is way too easy to deal with. Berserker again is ok against the right deck, but the pace and power at the top level is too much for it- the boars require too much time to set up effectively. Wight is a frail hero who is far too strongly countered by Warlock, and again- death curse works too slowly for the pace at high end. Predator is the only 4* capable of holding his own by stalling the op 5* hero abilities, providing substantial healing in a Faen deck and adding massive survivability against curse and stabthrough. All that being said, by the time you have a lv 10 Predator you should really have 3 good 5* heros, and any lv 10 4* is obsolete then. So all of the aforementioned (especially Wight) remain ideal in their own way until end game.
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Post by drakkan on Nov 29, 2015 20:25:40 GMT
That's exactly why he's most useful. Once you have the cards and runes to make creatures your prime damage source, heroes that maintain and support as opposed to being a damage focus are preferable. DR is cool, but at a high level the dragon is way too easy to deal with. Berserker again is ok against the right deck, but the pace and power at the top level is too much for it- the boars require too much time to set up effectively. Wight is a frail hero who is far too strongly countered by Warlock, and again- death curse works too slowly for the pace at high end. Predator is the only 4* capable of holding his own by stalling the op 5* hero abilities, providing substantial healing in a Faen deck and adding massive survivability against curse and stabthrough. All that being said, by the time you have a lv 10 Predator you should really have 3 good 5* heros, and any lv 10 4* is obsolete then. So all of the aforementioned (especially Wight) remain ideal in their own way until end game. Well thats nicely said - by the time 4* hero goes to lvl10 you should already have 3 good 5* heroes .. so its kind of pointless arguing then.. (and I actually dont have lvl10 4* heroes so idk about how efficent one is) But, before 4* heroes reach lvl10 from my personal experience Wight is the most versatile one .. and Death Curse does kill .. rare are the creatures that can survive 3 turns under lvl8 death curse.. and none can survive 4 turns.. When I was fighting vs Wight, he was actually able to take down my sac Anathema quite ofthen .. esp when Phantom Liege comes into play and buys him another turn Thats what makes him more efficient vs 5* heroes .. How can Predator win vs Judgement? Only with good creatures.. where my Wight actually has decent winrate vs Judgement (and I'm at Tournament near top50)
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Post by orgoth on Nov 30, 2015 1:52:36 GMT
All that being said, by the time you have a lv 10 Predator you should really have 3 good 5* heros, and any lv 10 4* is obsolete then. So all of the aforementioned (especially Wight) remain ideal in their own way until end game. Well thats nicely said - by the time 4* hero goes to lvl10 you should already have 3 good 5* heroes .. so its kind of pointless arguing then.. (and I actually dont have lvl10 4* heroes so idk about how efficent one is) But, before 4* heroes reach lvl10 from my personal experience Wight is the most versatile one .. and Death Curse does kill .. rare are the creatures that can survive 3 turns under lvl8 death curse.. and none can survive 4 turns.. When I was fighting vs Wight, he was actually able to take down my sac Anathema quite ofthen .. esp when Phantom Liege comes into play and buys him another turn Thats what makes him more efficient vs 5* heroes .. How can Predator win vs Judgement? Only with good creatures.. where my Wight actually has decent winrate vs Judgement (and I'm at Tournament near top50) kinda because wight skill unlike preds is more unique sonce pred is to an extent a lesser version of judgement results are obvious, but wight is.more.of a kill 2 creatures when he fires.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Nov 30, 2015 2:45:00 GMT
I have 3 5* Heroes but I am still scared of Predator much more than Wight. Predator can delay my Hero's prayer skill and can also delay cloning. That's what scares me, I can deal with death curse if you let my hero do its job but to chain and restrain my hero, now that gets me.
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Post by aketto on Nov 30, 2015 16:16:54 GMT
Wight>Dragon Rider>Berserker even at lvl 10. DR, Berserker and Predator at lvl 10 are beasts. Wight lvl 10 doesn't have a chance against them IMO. Wight will most probably cast death curse on boars, dragons and bears while they keep pounding Wight. I don't have a 4* hero at lvl 10, yet, but from what I faced in the Tournament, lvl 10 Wight decks are the ones that my main deck have the most problems with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2016 3:22:43 GMT
At lvl 10 , DR, predator,berserker. Because lvl 10 dragon is amazingly both offensive and defensive. Lvl 5-10 , predator, berserker,DR. Because of bear's defensive skill.harder to be killed. Lvl 0-5 , berserker,predator,DR. Because of the 3 max boars,(although boars have neither valuable offensive nor defensive skill for incoming damage,they can be summoned rapidly)
Wight dominates these summoners between lvl 5-10 with a decreasing presence over them. He has lesser chance against lvl 10 of these.
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Post by zick on Feb 12, 2016 2:45:37 GMT
Sometimes i fell unfair to berserker hero because he only one hero can summon 3 creature at time while other summoning hero can only 1 creature..:-(:-(
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Post by kakusus on Feb 18, 2016 17:42:10 GMT
Guys tell me please about 5lvl and lvl10 new hero skills i only know about DR. Dragon got new skill right? I got paw master on 3 lvl and almost wight ,so want to know what will be new when they will be upgraded.
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Post by treeplot32 on Feb 18, 2016 21:03:49 GMT
Only the 4* heroes obtained from gauntlet gain new abilities at lvl 5 and 10. Any info about hero growth should be on the deck heroes wiki.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Feb 19, 2016 3:30:01 GMT
Guys tell me please about 5lvl and lvl10 new hero skills i only know about DR. Dragon got new skill right? I got paw master on 3 lvl and almost wight ,so want to know what will be new when they will be upgraded. Dragon Rider lvl 1-5 deals damage to enemy creatures for your hero taking any sort of damage. At lvl 5+ the dragon starts increasing its attack every round. At lvl 10 it has 50% chance to Dodge any attack and is immune to retreat and instakill.
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Post by galgron on Mar 3, 2016 8:29:32 GMT
Recently I think wight lost a bit of value along with devil hunter as they are useless in guild maps and level 5+ DragonRider and Beserker have moved in for top contenders at least as far as guild maps go. And wight is so easily countered by using suicide revive crits like Undyingwill.
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Post by razor on Jul 9, 2016 16:27:49 GMT
a level 10 DR is total over kill...... by far the strongest
that dragon is so hard to kill cuz of dodge and immunity against instakill and retreat and by the time u come close to killing it its attack will be well over 2500
also by the time u kill it.... the hero rage will be full again
predator is good but the bears are easier to kill than those dragons
so at lvl 10 DR beats any other 4* hero and many 5* heroes upto lvl 3
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Post by sblip on Jul 9, 2016 18:58:48 GMT
Spiky bits vs. Judgement will lose 90% of the time. For every damage done to EACH of your creatures ONCE, it heals ALL your creatures. In tourney I still sometimes purposely put up a magic dmg Judgement deck against Zerker.
The Hardest 4* Hero to fight in tourney in the 1500-2000 range where I have been lurking (hopefully better after today) is consistently Wight. The Others are easily dispatched, with some exceptions for really well thought out decks.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jul 9, 2016 20:41:05 GMT
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Post by sblip on Jul 10, 2016 13:51:04 GMT
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Post by bleblublabliblo on Jul 10, 2016 18:00:48 GMT
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