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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 23, 2015 22:43:02 GMT
The real irony is the glory you gained was used to level up Oceanus and your oceanus deck was the one deck that lost to Mikhal
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 23, 2015 22:49:03 GMT
It's deliberately vague. It's a term for the group of people including the STAR and f2p players. You may be that group, but could easily specify your personal status by just writing STAR rather than the more ambiguous STAR/f2p. It's not like you just bought STAR a couple of times when you had a few bucks. Even 6 months STAR = $36 = several retail games during a steam sale. Naruto has shown on his videos the exact amount of gem he has gotten, how it that vague? Naruto has a lot of instructional videos on YouTube where we teaches players advanced strategies in Deck Heroes. About half of guild is top 100 tournament in large part because of Naruto's videos and most of us in the guild are star only. If you want to learn how to play the game better than you should watch some of his videos, I'm sure you'll get a lot better at the game Also, Naruto was able to beat Mikhail, a player who likely spent about 5-10 thousand times what Naruto did. That is likely the most amazing achievement by any player in the game. No offense, but i'd like to see him do that again. Because immediately after we knocked him back quite a bit, and this was done by members who spend nothing close to what Mik does.
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Post by Opethian on May 23, 2015 22:56:28 GMT
This has become a vegan/vegetarian debate. LOL
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 23, 2015 23:13:50 GMT
Beating mikhal once was my goal and thats done, I actually needed the 1000 gems achievement. I am now using my tournament battles with a different approach, because beating mikhal again is a waste of my tournament battle refreshes. It really has no benefits, I'm brought down instantly. Everyone knows the attacker has advantage anyway.
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Post by thundergod on May 23, 2015 23:28:26 GMT
Naruto has shown on his videos the exact amount of gem he has gotten, how it that vague? Naruto has a lot of instructional videos on YouTube where we teaches players advanced strategies in Deck Heroes. About half of guild is top 100 tournament in large part because of Naruto's videos and most of us in the guild are star only. If you want to learn how to play the game better than you should watch some of his videos, I'm sure you'll get a lot better at the game Also, Naruto was able to beat Mikhail, a player who likely spent about 5-10 thousand times what Naruto did. That is likely the most amazing achievement by any player in the game. No offense, but i'd like to see him do that again. Because immediately after we knocked him back quite a bit, and this was done by members who spend nothing close to what Mik does. How often have those players knocked back Mikhal though? I'm pretty sure Naruto spent much less than those guys, though this is isn't supposed to be a competition so it doesn't really matter. Beating Mikhal once is enough of an achievement.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 23, 2015 23:37:22 GMT
No offense, but i'd like to see him do that again. Because immediately after we knocked him back quite a bit, and this was done by members who spend nothing close to what Mik does. How often have those players knocked back Mikhal though? I'm pretty sure Naruto spent much less than those guys, though this is isn't supposed to be a competition so it doesn't really matter. Beating Mikhal once is enough of an achievement. Why is it an achievement? There are very few of us within WK who can't beat Mik. The majority of our high rankers have taken #1 already as well, so effectively, it isn't really an accomplishment. Mikhal is a player just like the rest of us.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 23, 2015 23:39:16 GMT
Beating mikhal once was my goal and thats done, I actually needed the 1000 gems achievement. I am now using my tournament battles with a different approach, because beating mikhal again is a waste of my tournament battle refreshes. It really has no benefits, I'm brought down instantly. Everyone knows the attacker has advantage anyway. Btw man, I have nothing against you, so don't take my posts the wrong way, because I see how they come across.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 24, 2015 0:05:22 GMT
How often have those players knocked back Mikhal though? I'm pretty sure Naruto spent much less than those guys, though this is isn't supposed to be a competition so it doesn't really matter. Beating Mikhal once is enough of an achievement. Why is it an achievement? There are very few of us within WK who can't beat Mik. The majority of our high rankers have taken #1 already as well, so effectively, it isn't really an accomplishment. Mikhal is a player just like the rest of us. The word achievement is subjective. For me its a personal achievement beating the best player in DH (mikhal) which I am proud of, with using STAR only pretty much. Of course I had the attackers advantage. DSanders/Eidderf can beat mikhal too, but they have thor/armageddon. It probably was a goal/achievement of them to beat mikhal, I just feel that mine one is the "better achievement" since I've spend nothing besides STAR (Yes people argue about the $50 but I don't really care, I respect their opinion on how they view things. I have my own view as well.) Beating the best player in DH just feels like an achievement, despite the attacker's advantage. We all look up to mikhal as the strongest of DH and his deck strategies aren't bad at all. I know some players who spend more than dsanders/eidderf and not even close to top100.
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 24, 2015 0:05:50 GMT
How often have those players knocked back Mikhal though? I'm pretty sure Naruto spent much less than those guys, though this is isn't supposed to be a competition so it doesn't really matter. Beating Mikhal once is enough of an achievement. Why is it an achievement? There are very few of us within WK who can't beat Mik. The majority of our high rankers have taken #1 already as well, so effectively, it isn't really an accomplishment. Mikhal is a player just like the rest of us. Why is that an achievement? You're asking why being rank #1 in the whole game in tournaments (even if it was for a short period of time) is an achievement? Igg has a page called "achievements" and one of the "achievements" is a #1 tournament rank. You should contact Igg and let them know why it shouldn't be an achievement. Also, Naruto has spent less than 1/5000th of what Mikhail did and beat him based purely on strategy, that sounds pretty impressive to me. Anyway, if being ranked #1 in the game in tournaments isn't an achievement to you, please let me know what you consider an achievement?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on May 24, 2015 0:13:04 GMT
Why is it an achievement? There are very few of us within WK who can't beat Mik. The majority of our high rankers have taken #1 already as well, so effectively, it isn't really an accomplishment. Mikhal is a player just like the rest of us. Why is that an achievement? You're asking why being rank #1 in the whole game in tournaments (even if it was for a short period of time) is an achievement? Igg has a page called "achievements" and one of the "achievements" is a #1 tournament rank. You should contact Igg and let them know why it shouldn't be an achievement. Also, Naruto has spent less than 1/5000th of what Mikhail did and beat him based purely on strategy, that sounds pretty impressive to me. Anyway, if being ranked #1 in the game in tournaments isn't an achievement to you, please let me know what you consider an achievement? I prefer if people just call me lucker with 3 great mystics, most problems are solved that way
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Post by ℜ★Xega on May 24, 2015 0:17:08 GMT
Why is that an achievement? You're asking why being rank #1 in the whole game in tournaments (even if it was for a short period of time) is an achievement? Igg has a page called "achievements" and one of the "achievements" is a #1 tournament rank. You should contact Igg and let them know why it shouldn't be an achievement. Also, Naruto has spent less than 1/5000th of what Mikhail did and beat him based purely on strategy, that sounds pretty impressive to me. Anyway, if being ranked #1 in the game in tournaments isn't an achievement to you, please let me know what you consider an achievement? I prefer if people just call me lucker with 3 great mystics, most problems are solved that way I prefer we do a poll on forum to see if people consider gaining a #1 rank in tournament is an achievement XD
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on May 24, 2015 0:17:34 GMT
Why is it an achievement? There are very few of us within WK who can't beat Mik. The majority of our high rankers have taken #1 already as well, so effectively, it isn't really an accomplishment. Mikhal is a player just like the rest of us. Why is that an achievement? You're asking why being rank #1 in the whole game in tournaments (even if it was for a short period of time) is an achievement? Igg has a page called "achievements" and one of the "achievements" is a #1 tournament rank. You should contact Igg and let them know why it shouldn't be an achievement. Also, Naruto has spent less than 1/5000th of what Mikhail did and beat him based purely on strategy, that sounds pretty impressive to me. Anyway, if being ranked #1 in the game in tournaments isn't an achievement to you, please let me know what you consider an achievement? My query isn't about #1, it's why beating Mikhal is considered an achievement. This is the answer. The word achievement is subjective. For me its a personal achievement beating the best player in DH (mikhal) which I am proud of, with using STAR only pretty much. Of course I had the attackers advantage. DSanders/Eidderf can beat mikhal too, but they have thor/armageddon. It probably was a goal/achievement of them to beat mikhal, I just feel that mine one is the "better achievement" since I've spend nothing besides STAR (Yes people argue about the $50 but I don't really care, I respect their opinion on how they view things. I have my own view as well.) Beating the best player in DH just feels like an achievement, despite the attacker's advantage. We all look up to mikhal as the strongest of DH and his deck strategies aren't bad at all. I know some players who spend more than dsanders/eidderf and not even close to top100.
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Post by vamp on May 24, 2015 1:36:36 GMT
Why is that an achievement? You're asking why being rank #1 in the whole game in tournaments (even if it was for a short period of time) is an achievement? Igg has a page called "achievements" and one of the "achievements" is a #1 tournament rank. You should contact Igg and let them know why it shouldn't be an achievement. Also, Naruto has spent less than 1/5000th of what Mikhail did and beat him based purely on strategy, that sounds pretty impressive to me. Anyway, if being ranked #1 in the game in tournaments isn't an achievement to you, please let me know what you consider an achievement? My query isn't about #1, it's why beating Mikhal is considered an achievement. This is the answer. The word achievement is subjective. For me its a personal achievement beating the best player in DH (mikhal) which I am proud of, with using STAR only pretty much. Of course I had the attackers advantage. DSanders/Eidderf can beat mikhal too, but they have thor/armageddon. It probably was a goal/achievement of them to beat mikhal, I just feel that mine one is the "better achievement" since I've spend nothing besides STAR (Yes people argue about the $50 but I don't really care, I respect their opinion on how they view things. I have my own view as well.) Beating the best player in DH just feels like an achievement, despite the attacker's advantage. We all look up to mikhal as the strongest of DH and his deck strategies aren't bad at all. I know some players who spend more than dsanders/eidderf and not even close to top100. I guess, like it or not, Mikhal is the ultimate symbol of p2w, coming top in the various seasonal events, having Santa Baus, top of tournament, tons of 5*, and with the likes of whom we lowly non-p2wers can only (except Naruto) dream of competing. Hence it's a heady achievement, not just to come first, but to beat him.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on May 24, 2015 2:53:41 GMT
Man, this argument about star is super dumb. Buying star gives you 3000 gems for $6. 3000 gems via normal purchases costs around $40. That's such an awesome deal, it makes total sense anyone would do it if they like the game. If you play any online game like WoW, you're paying upwards of $10 per month just to play the game- and that's what you should be comparing this to, IMO.
Of course, not everyone wants to spend- but $6 a month for a game you get a lot of enjoyment out is just not a large amount, at all. Because of the cost/reward ratio of star (3000 gems isn't all you get, there's all that free energy and maze resets which can help too), it shouldn't factor into whether someone is 'f2p' or not.
I just checked Mikhal's tournament deck. He has lv 5, 7, 10 5* heros. He has 16 MELDED 5* creatures over his decks. He has Baus, 3 Paragons, Snow Harlot, Sea Wizard. He has 4 5* revive melds, 3 recycle 2 melds. All his card weaknesses are shored up with frost armors and immunities. 22 of his cards are at lv 15.
If beating that with less than $100 spent total, with only 12 lv 15 cards, 1 melded 5*, a lv 1 5* hero, lv 7+8 4* hero isn't an achievement, I don't know what is. 99.9% of players couldn't even scratch a single one of his decks with any combination of cards unless they've spent upwards of $500. Sure, he got lucky with some of his cards but he's got to the stage where he can play with the big boys through time, understanding of the game, a bit of luck and backing from a good guild. Gotta give him the respect he deserves, it's a great boost to anyone who doesn't want to spend big to realise that time and knowledge actually CAN overcome money, even if it is only temporarily.
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Post by kakola on May 24, 2015 6:36:21 GMT
Bad news, after beating mikhal I got attacked by WK like 10+ times and I dropped alot of ranks and the battle history vs mikhal is gone due all those attacks, can't record the battle anymore Wanted to record it during my lunch break but can't do now anymore :/ Deck used were similar to my tournament decks with 2-3 cards adjustments here and there each deck. Oh man thats lame! And this is stupid debate. Obviously reaching #1 in tournament is the best achievement one can get. And beating Mikhal is just the icing on the cake.
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Post by vamp on May 24, 2015 13:11:45 GMT
Bad news, after beating mikhal I got attacked by WK like 10+ times and I dropped alot of ranks and the battle history vs mikhal is gone due all those attacks, can't record the battle anymore Wanted to record it during my lunch break but can't do now anymore :/ Deck used were similar to my tournament decks with 2-3 cards adjustments here and there each deck. Oh man thats lame! And this is stupid debate. Obviously reaching #1 in tournament is the best achievement one can get. And beating Mikhal is just the icing on the cake. Actually I think holding #1 in tournament is a better achievement surely
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