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Post by revenant on Jan 15, 2018 13:38:30 GMT
Fafnir is a good choice, but is prefered as a revive carrier. I have a Oinari with revive (as a temp till i can put it on something better) Not That good, tought it would be nice on here, when she enters, 2 crit are revived , she dies and comes back and the cycle continues... But paragon kinde kills the purpose Guess the best use of Oinari is in a deck with a couple of anti-human beaters like bb8 or sac graboid, so that they can dispose of Paragon when needed.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jan 15, 2018 17:27:19 GMT
I have just gotten a Dahlia. I have no HB right now, and instead of farming them I think I could go with Fafnir, as I already have 2 and no problem in farming them through guild... do you think it is a good option? Btw, I have no revivers, and far from getting any. A second question: I see many talking against Oinari, but would that be possible (and not so bad) having a +[d] melded revive Oinari (I can also have a firstborn in little time) as a poor man's reviver?You want HB for your rec2 due to cost, all faf really gives is a bit more raw HP - but you never know when you will pull a rev (AB or gem mines). You will also pull GM from the gem mines eventually, even if you only run 1st chest 3rd mione on double ore days like me (32 shards currently) Oinari is pretty crap due to the 6 turn timer - you can add her to a tourney deck and its OK. I put [d] from firstborn onto SS and its OK in my deathless Arma deck but not main deck material (although you can run it in place of revive until you get lucky). If the game didn't have torment, [d] and rev might be higher tier skills - you really want them on low timer cards like deathknight and demonic templar if you can. I would run Dahlia for a while in anycase and farm some HBs - she seems much more useable than hippo
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Post by Mitti on Jan 15, 2018 18:11:21 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin
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Post by Doomkin✪NFS on Jan 15, 2018 19:20:32 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin Yes but it is difficult to farm, making it less than ideal early on.. and later on might find better sources or not making it worth melding from a HB to Dulahan.
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Post by Mitti on Jan 16, 2018 8:19:15 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin Yes but it is difficult to farm, making it less than ideal early on.. and later on might find better sources or not making it worth melding from a HB to Dulahan. No matter what card it is,even i have only one coppy i try.No pain no gain,always riskyng is better than not trying to progress in game
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Post by revenant on Jan 16, 2018 8:57:29 GMT
I have just gotten a Dahlia. I have no HB right now, and instead of farming them I think I could go with Fafnir, as I already have 2 and no problem in farming them through guild... do you think it is a good option? Btw, I have no revivers, and far from getting any. A second question: I see many talking against Oinari, but would that be possible (and not so bad) having a +[d] melded revive Oinari (I can also have a firstborn in little time) as a poor man's reviver?You want HB for your rec2 due to cost, all faf really gives is a bit more raw HP - but you never know when you will pull a rev (AB or gem mines). You will also pull GM from the gem mines eventually, even if you only run 1st chest 3rd mione on double ore days like me (32 shards currently) Oinari is pretty crap due to the 6 turn timer - you can add her to a tourney deck and its OK. I put [d] from firstborn onto SS and its OK in my deathless Arma deck but not main deck material (although you can run it in place of revive until you get lucky). If the game didn't have torment, [d] and rev might be higher tier skills - you really want them on low timer cards like deathknight and demonic templar if you can.
I would run Dahlia for a while in anycase and farm some HBs - she seems much more useable than hippo
Faf gives also a bit more punch with the sweeping blow, but yes it is quite expensive in deck points. I would like to get rid of dahlia mostly because I don't want to take out my sac twins from the main, even with sac rune and rec2 I see her as a big downgrade in damage output if compared to twins. Anyway, do you think that 2 x rec1 and 1 x rec2 is viable in a deck or too many recyclers aren't effective?
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Post by revenant on Jan 16, 2018 8:59:17 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin True, I was wondering what to do with my 2 spare dullahans, but I see me trying to yolo rec from my newly unlocked thalassa on it, soon
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jan 16, 2018 16:11:30 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin If you can get some Duls early, then he is pretty good with a few melds. He is a much better carrier than harbringer for all those skills too (instakill, disposal, recycle). In the end Dulahan do not have enough survivability to be a recycler - although stoneskin is generally better than i7 for disposal/insta/retreat he has very little survivability on the board. He may work OK with an or [d] revive if you have the cards, which synergises much better with rebirth. The idea of melding off a horned beast onto Dulahan seems a bad choice - unless you already have a bunch of recHBs and want to try something different or are totally dependent on a wright based undying deck and don't have any good 5* heroes.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Jan 16, 2018 16:30:18 GMT
Faf gives also a bit more punch with the sweeping blow, but yes it is quite expensive in deck points. I would like to get rid of dahlia mostly because I don't want to take out my sac twins from the main, even with sac rune and rec2 I see her as a big downgrade in damage output if compared to twins. Anyway, do you think that 2 x rec1 and 1 x rec2 is viable in a deck or too many recyclers aren't effective? Faf SB is OK, bit like Dulahan BB is OK - but I think I prefer the utility of the heal (especially if you level it a bit and use the hero rune) over the extra bit of attack damage. I would not usually run 2 sacs, but I might try Daliha without the rune (she can recycle them straght away, barring torment) - with the sac she should provide quite a bit of damage herself, and without the sac rune she could have violence instead. I don't think 3 recs are generally good, 2 rec1s surfice, so rec1+rec2 should be plenty. You can use 2 recs + revive, with the optimum setup being 2rev+rec2 I think - unless you run something particularly tanky. If you imagine having those 3 recyclers on the board together, you can recycle 4 cards per turn (out of the 6 or 7 other cards you have). It could be better to run rec1+rec2+[s/d] rev until you drop a GM. When I get a rec2 I will be ploughing essences into a HB to run it (perhaps saving the 5* dodge for faf with rev no. 2 - only 4 shards away)
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Post by Mitti on Jan 16, 2018 16:42:01 GMT
From all 4* most i like is Dulahan.It is best recycle for me-only 15 cost,rebirth,stoneskin If you can get some Duls early, then he is pretty good with a few melds. He is a much better carrier than harbringer for all those skills too (instakill, disposal, recycle). In the end Dulahan do not have enough survivability to be a recycler - although stoneskin is generally better than i7 for disposal/insta/retreat he has very little survivability on the board. He may work OK with an or [d] revive if you have the cards, which synergises much better with rebirth. The idea of melding off a horned beast onto Dulahan seems a bad choice - unless you already have a bunch of recHBs and want to try something different or are totally dependent on a wright based undying deck and don't have any good 5* heroes. For me horned beast without dodge rune is rly bad choice.Although when battle starts my dullahan appears in battle has about 2k hp
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