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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jun 16, 2015 0:35:49 GMT
My current curse deck is wight with undying and shadow hex. Delilah bloody lord frost caller and 7 witches. Putting discord 8 on my witches . god another bloody lord I was thinking of putting godswill on a witch or a caller just to spice it up instead of all discord. Also is discord 8 worth all the farming nsyead of just melding discord 4 from dream healer? Wat else would be good on a caller or witch
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Jun 16, 2015 7:12:13 GMT
For dark witch, despite discord I'd meld delay 2 (from icy huntress) or Hobble 2 (from night terror) since you have undying. For frost caller, I'd meld unholy pact 5 (from blightghast).
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 21, 2015 1:38:53 GMT
Witch is a 3 star creature, how can you meld delay?
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Jun 21, 2015 4:55:44 GMT
3 stars are limited but you could try dodge to aid longer cursing. I still prefer discord 8 and the 40% difference is worth the extra effort imo but for a quick throw together deck discord 4 may work ok.
There's always "(D)Tomb traps 4" that Curses the enemy when the critter dies as well... That's from a 3☆ Mortii critter the unseen.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jun 23, 2015 19:40:55 GMT
I been using wight still as my hero and I've put discord 8 on 3 witches and stabthrough on 1. I been using this for raids instead of chaos witch and the results are much better. I have not lost a single raid with this deck yet. I only attack decks with 12,000 + glory and 5 raids i never get any less than 15-17 k glory. I've been using gems to buy a few extra raid resets a day. That's how iv gotten all my hero's leveled and I'm now using it all on runes. U can get a insane amount of runes from 20k glory
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Post by tanisomsford on Jun 23, 2015 19:56:32 GMT
I wonder, has anyone considered trying a full stack of pupeteers? Even without meld, they death gaze. I am guessing you have only immunity and unbound to worry about then right? But one could simply begin melding disposal's/instakill's/recycle's and make the deck quite tank'ish.
Thoughts?
It reminds me of the old Magic the gathering stasis decks of lockdown and watch the slow grind.
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Jun 26, 2015 21:55:27 GMT
I wonder, has anyone considered trying a full stack of pupeteers? Even without meld, they death gaze. I am guessing you have only immunity and unbound to worry about then right? But one could simply begin melding disposal's/instakill's/recycle's and make the deck quite tank'ish. Thoughts? It reminds me of the old Magic the gathering stasis decks of lockdown and watch the slow grind. Unbound doesn't even protect you against Death Gaze, only Immunity can stop Puppetteers. I have 6, but rather use them in conjunction with other creatures in a curse deck (Spirit Siren x 2, Gorgon x 2, Puppetteer x 2, Ghostly Judge, Bloody Lord, Dark witch x 2 [one with Discord 8])
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Post by zod14x on Jun 27, 2015 10:14:03 GMT
I have Lilith in my curse deck, 4 melded dark witches (discord 5 and 8), 1 Spirit Siren, 3 Puppetters and one Gorgon.
With this deck i kill top 50 heroes in Tournament on a daily basis lol
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 27, 2015 10:17:42 GMT
I've had some success with 4 Puppeteer, 1 Spirit Siren and 1 Dark Witch in raids. For some reason adding more Spirit Sirens drops the winrate. I wouldn't go all Puppeteer because you kind of want something else to throw in front of an immune.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 1, 2015 2:47:24 GMT
Which hero and skills are best? My Wight hardly triggers shadow hex cuz undying. Would witch with hex be better? With no undying to trigger hex? Idk wat to use anymore
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Post by tanisomsford on Jul 5, 2015 16:23:41 GMT
I think board manipulation is far more usefull than Shadow hex. Agnii at Boom 8-10 does 1300-2500 hero damage and can get Agile to build your creatures on the board. Perhaps using a few faen with Curse/Godswill melds, that triggers agile and your curse creatures come out and stay for a few rounds. Could add up to 6-8 k damage in two to three rounds if Agnii shoots off boom once or twice.
Just a thought...
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Post by tanisomsford on Jul 5, 2015 16:34:43 GMT
Also, an interesting deck mechanic I saw today, was three border rangers with stabthrough 6(sweeping blow + Battleblow + Stabthrough 6 on ~600 Atk = 1800 hero damage x 3 if all three crits on board) I've been really thinking about stabthrough in a curse deck, but this, I think, seals it.
Perhaps, even better, is 5 puppet masters all with stabthrough 6 (90%), since they have death march, the stack is about 1000 hero damage per puppeteer without the godswill. Since you need 5 crits on the board against you, the godswill does 900 base damage, add both stabthrough and Godswill runes, and I think you can do about 15k hero damage in one round with only a 5 creature deck. That would mean a 2 round hero kill and the death gaze should almost guarantee the pupeteers get two rounds to spank them.
Frost armor dodge is obviously a weakness...or a titania of course =P
I haven't anything else to do with Mortii stuff right now, I think I'd like to try and playtest this. Will obviously take me a couple months to get the puppeteers, but the payoff could be worth it in the long run.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jul 6, 2015 11:58:29 GMT
With runes, stabthrough just became OP. That's all.
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Post by mingying on Jul 6, 2015 12:13:22 GMT
Agree! Have level 5s on two ursa majors and they hit like 1.3k hero damage per hit. Kinda makes me want to build stabthrough graboid
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 14, 2015 1:14:21 GMT
So ya had to re do my curse deck after various findings. Instead of all witches and callers I am now using
2 stabthrough 7 Witches 1 Bless 7 Witch 1 Discord 8 Witch 2 Bless 7 Frost caller 1 Stab through 6 Caller 1 Stabthrough 7 Bloody Lord (with the soul rune and stab rune he really does big hero DMG) 1 Stab through 7 Border Ranger (hits minimum of 3k per round but usually over 4k) 1 Stab through 7 Techno Chief (does min. 3k DMG a round and bloodrage rune pumps chaos witches rage quickly) I am working on another border ranger cuz she is by far the hardest hitting for curse deck. I have been easily tearing through all map 10 hard stages so far with this deck.
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Post by sonbalin on Jul 14, 2015 2:43:37 GMT
So Stabthrough is better than Curse, and stupidly good with sweeping blow? Looks like I've got some melding to do!
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 14, 2015 2:49:26 GMT
Yes its insanely powerful, especially on border ranger. With violent rune and human vigor and all vigor on hero.
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Post by maker on Jul 14, 2015 16:02:41 GMT
godswill and and curse still have their place. paralyzed, dodge, hunter vine, and even FA and block a little will make your stabthrough inferior to curse and GW. You want a solid mix for multi purposes.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jul 14, 2015 16:23:33 GMT
I'd love to see a current deck build!
I still use my old school curse deck for raids and tournament, but I definitely understand how a Sweeping Stabthrough would work, but how does the deck setup look?
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jul 14, 2015 17:34:41 GMT
So it's still mostly Mortii. Interesting.
Question, I see Border Ranger being used for this a lot but wouldn't any of the Sweeping Blows work? I know Border Ranger is 3-star and Stabthrough is, but I imagine a Swordmaster would be downright brutal?
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Post by sonbalin on Jul 14, 2015 18:15:29 GMT
So it's still mostly Mortii. Interesting. Question, I see Border Ranger being used for this a lot but wouldn't any of the Sweeping Blows work? I know Border Ranger is 3-star and Stabthrough is, but I imagine a Swordmaster would be downright brutal? According to the wiki, a level 15 Border Ranger does 623 dmg vs a level 15 Swordmaster's 477? Border Ranger also has Battleblow 2.
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 14, 2015 18:45:10 GMT
Ya I was gonna meld swordmaster that thought occurred to me too. But the battleblow is what really gets the big damage. So I did techno instead cuz his lesser damage can be made up for with bloodrage. I'm gonna make one more b ranger but its hard getting them. A swordmaster would be good too her frost maiji would make her hang around a few more rounds. But I have no duplicates of her
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Post by daoze✪NFS on Jul 14, 2015 21:04:57 GMT
So it's still mostly Mortii. Interesting. Question, I see Border Ranger being used for this a lot but wouldn't any of the Sweeping Blows work? I know Border Ranger is 3-star and Stabthrough is, but I imagine a Swordmaster would be downright brutal? According to the wiki, a level 15 Border Ranger does 623 dmg vs a level 15 Swordmaster's 477? Border Ranger also has Battleblow 2. i think many are missing the point. Sweeping Blow + stabthrough depends on 2 situations. Case1, Versus a low level hero / low hp hero Stabthrough dmg will rely more heavily on the critter atk power than the rune. (border ranger is effective in this case) the rune effect will be less significant as the total hp for the hero is so little. care for FA melded opponents, your stabthrough+sweeping blow will crumble in this deck Case 2, Versus a high level, high hp hero Stabthrough dmg will rely more heavily on the critter's rune level, (any creature with sweeping blow is good, techno / SM will be more effective as their dmg will increase slightly/ critter will last longer in game respectively) rune effect will be very significant as the total hp for the hero is a factor in hero killing no need to care for FA melded, ST+SB deck will wilt down any opponents easily.
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Post by SoaponaRope [BK] on Jul 14, 2015 22:00:03 GMT
So it's still mostly Mortii. Interesting. Question, I see Border Ranger being used for this a lot but wouldn't any of the Sweeping Blows work? I know Border Ranger is 3-star and Stabthrough is, but I imagine a Swordmaster would be downright brutal? According to the wiki, a level 15 Border Ranger does 623 dmg vs a level 15 Swordmaster's 477? Border Ranger also has Battleblow 2. Yes, and a Border Ranger has no defense and 1021 HP. One of the major challenges with my Curse deck is that if I can't kill withing a certain amount of time, then it's better to go with Dragonrider or even Wight, control the board better and get damage on the hero from regular attacks. I would think that a Swordmaster, with the ability to last a few rounds, might end up doing better damage than either a Border Ranger or a Techno-Chief, but I do suppose it depends on the deck in question. What are you using these decks for? PVP? Explorer's gate? I'm guessing with a manual combat you could lay down Border ranger in the perfect spot where she'd do tons of damage.
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Post by sonbalin on Jul 14, 2015 22:24:04 GMT
I'm not using them myself, just interested in the results!
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 14, 2015 22:59:55 GMT
I'm using it for explorers gate and guild wars. Yes I know that's why I sub a lot and have no set in stone curse deck it switches around a lot. But that's the one I use for tournament so I can pick what deck it fights. It's successful a lot of the time and I rely more on my other two decks for higher percent victories. I'm only ranked 600-700 in tourny though so I'm gonna switch it out when it gets harder
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 14, 2015 23:57:54 GMT
What deck is thatbyour using? What melds and skills? Hero?
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Post by onewingangelffvii on Jul 15, 2015 1:01:38 GMT
So how would deathmort be? How do u get shadow hex to trigger a lot? If u have undying it doesn't seem like it will.
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Post by sonbalin on Jul 15, 2015 17:54:15 GMT
So how would deathmort be? How do u get shadow hex to trigger a lot? If u have undying it doesn't seem like it will. Shadow Hex tends to work better with Chaos Witch, instead of undying, when you're just racing the enemy for the kill. Cripple would work better with Undying, where your aim would be to outlast the enemy and whittle them down.
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