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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Sept 15, 2017 9:13:41 GMT
I think revive nidhogg was popular a while ago, but nowadays, I think there are much better revive carriers. I think recycle or frost armor are great ideas. like which ones? thx Octavius, Granite Dragon, Ordnance, Soul shrew, Flare Summoner, Mythrill Drone and more...
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like which ones? thx Octavius, Granite Dragon, Ordnance, Soul shrew, Flare Summoner, Mythrill Drone and more... Soul Shrew revive? Seriously ??
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Post by nufan on Sept 15, 2017 10:20:10 GMT
like which ones? thx Octavius, Granite Dragon, Ordnance, Soul shrew, Flare Summoner, Mythrill Drone and more... yeah would be nice... but almost impossible for normal people i believe? except Drone which is easy farmable
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Post by lotnar on Sept 15, 2017 10:43:49 GMT
Don't forget about Kumiho/Kitsune and a real sick reviver, Plague Doctor with upgraded Plunder Vitality.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 15, 2017 14:09:30 GMT
Just moved mine onto a Drone, well runed he's pretty strong. He does block some potential rage build, but the regen and immunity are good. People generally look for good defensive skillsets, which is why you see Mimir's and Fafnir as F2P options. I don't have enough copies of either, but I had a spare drone already and farmed another which was enough to YOLT it.
Otherwise anything with rampart and immunity is strong (Ordnance etc) but I would be happy getting a single card of those - let alone enough to meld! I had been using a runed up bloodletter, which was actually stronger than expected. Defensiely similar to Nidd, with only stoneskin being really effective. Not sure where lifesap and delay fall on the tier list, but they will both be a fair way down.
Dragonlord is another good option if you have a few copies, Pointiff used to be popular - but has no retreat/disposal immunity. I have one sat with 100% if I get another revive, I turned to bloodletter after as a temp carrier and I farmed the last one first so she got it unit MD. I think MD is stronger than both Faf and Mim, with mythril >> dodge > block for me (with good equipment and runes). Mimir has about +150HP base over fafnir, but MD is about +500 ontop of that.
Other effective options I see are Kumiho (with kitsune obviously) and snow harlot. I think the best would be ordnance - although would you be better suited spreading copies across tourney?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 15, 2017 14:11:23 GMT
like which ones? thx Octavius, Granite Dragon, Ordnance, Soul shrew, Flare Summoner, Mythrill Drone and more... Granite Dragons skills sound great for it - but I'ev not him enough out there to judge it
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Post by squirreleyez on Sept 15, 2017 16:07:23 GMT
I think revive nidhogg was popular a while ago, but nowadays, I think there are much better revive carriers. I think recycle or frost armor are great ideas. like which ones? thx Looks like everyone beat me to it =). If you are free to play, or somewhere in the goldfish-dolphin range, Mimir's Tree, Fafnir, Abaddon, and Bloodletter are all farmable through guild map, and Mithril Drone from ore mine. In my opinion these are all better than Nidhogg. These make excellent revive carriers until you find multiple copies of a much more powerful carrier.
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 15, 2017 17:24:12 GMT
I put disposal on the first 2. I'm thinking about going FA7 and revive on the next 2? All the lockdown and disposal is awesome but it's still hard to keep guys on the field. Maybe I just don't have enough hoggs yet. I think revive nidhogg was popular a while ago, but nowadays, I think there are much better revive carriers. I think recycle or frost armor are great ideas. FA Nidd seems a bit of a wasted card to me, unless for some reason you really need a tank with delay? Kinda feels like you would get better utility out of an FA Tauros Elder at much less cost. I think the days of "put frost armour on everything" are long gone, now all we need to do end end the days of "put immunity on everything" Fell if you want something not rev/rec then mass heal is an option, maybe clense could be useful in this meta. Instakill/disposal seems idiotic, but what about safeguard so crazy life boosting?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Sept 16, 2017 3:59:30 GMT
I think revive nidhogg was popular a while ago, but nowadays, I think there are much better revive carriers. I think recycle or frost armor are great ideas. like which ones? thx Any 5- star with high immunity and would stay in the field for a long time. Dragonlord Fafnir Mythril Drone Granite Dragon Octavious and many more.
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Post by jp on Sept 16, 2017 4:43:26 GMT
Come on folks, good suggestions but lets be real, for near mortals even fafnir and mimir are hard enough to obtain a few copy's and you have to be in a large enough guild to fight other people to obtain a consistent supply of shards, not to mention if you have bad luck in melding.
I would love to have granite dragon, ordanance or octavious as a carrier but my crystal ball is telling me its not possible in the foreseeable future or ever.
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Sept 16, 2017 23:47:30 GMT
Octavius, Granite Dragon, Ordnance, Soul shrew, Flare Summoner, Mythrill Drone and more... Soul Shrew revive? Seriously ?? Why not? It is not commun meld but she has immu, high hp restauration and dodge. I plan to do her for a longtime. But I miss 4 copies
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Post by squirreleyez on Sept 17, 2017 18:57:18 GMT
I've actually been considering another candidate recently... Sylph. She's a natural tank with immunity 7 and dodge 9, with Thor's Rage 10 as her 3rd ability. She's actually "farmable" through transmutations
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Post by squirreleyez on Sept 17, 2017 19:03:21 GMT
Come on folks, good suggestions but lets be real, for near mortals even fafnir and mimir are hard enough to obtain a few copy's and you have to be in a large enough guild to fight other people to obtain a consistent supply of shards, not to mention if you have bad luck in melding. I would love to have granite dragon, ordanance or octavious as a carrier but my crystal ball is telling me its not possible in the foreseeable future or ever. Guild Map 3 provides fafnir shards, while 4 provides the Mimir, Abaddon, and Bloodletter. You could easily farm fafnir in a small guild with friends, or even start your own if you have a deck that can do decent damage. It's actually not that hard to get these. The others... yeah... there's a pay wall or luck wall behind them.
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Post by squirreleyez on Sept 17, 2017 19:10:14 GMT
I think revive nidhogg was popular a while ago, but nowadays, I think there are much better revive carriers. I think recycle or frost armor are great ideas. FA Nidd seems a bit of a wasted card to me, unless for some reason you really need a tank with delay? Kinda feels like you would get better utility out of an FA Tauros Elder at much less cost. I think the days of "put frost armour on everything" are long gone, now all we need to do end end the days of "put immunity on everything" Fell if you want something not rev/rec then mass heal is an option, maybe clense could be useful in this meta. Instakill/disposal seems idiotic, but what about safeguard so crazy life boosting? Yeah, I agree with what you said about frost armor... I suppose it would be good enough for a tournament deck for a while, but not a main deck. I guess recycle would be the best option to me. Safeguard is interesting lol! And cleanse... I'm not sure what creatures have a high level cleanse that you'd want to put on nidhogg instead of something else. It seems so good for me that it's worth more than nidhogg.
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Guild Map 3 provides fafnir shards, while 4 provides the Mimir, Abaddon, and Bloodletter. You could easily farm fafnir in a small guild with friends, or even start your own if you have a deck that can do decent damage. It's actually not that hard to get these. The others... yeah... there's a pay wall or luck wall behind them. Fafnir, mimir, abaddon are all popular shards, it took me 2 month to almost finish one fafnir (don't want to spend omnis on these) and that's with loosing lots of sleep, and with my bad luck in melding (85% required full copies) it would take me a good 10 month to collect. i have no problem with guild maps, thought about my own farming guild with my 1 alternate but after some calculation, it might be worse (time wise), unless i create 4/5 more alternate, but i am spending too much time on this game already. You have no idea how I felt when 5 month collection of Horned beast and Oracles gone in just 2 melds, I was close to slam my phone, ok, I will be fair, I could of saved 1 copy by spending gems but at the time i was saving for alice bond. You know a guild where I can collect 5 copies in 2/3 month?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 18, 2017 15:20:09 GMT
2 melded HBs and oracles in 5 months seems very low, did you not get any of the 4* human melds they were giving away? Bet I got 6 or 7 melded Oracles in that time.
Did you use omni shards? I still have 100+ and I use them quite liberally for HB/oracle farming. You can pull ~1-2 cards a week for each without spending. That equates to ~30-35 cards say in 5 months.
I put some comments on gem melding in the rush questions thread (perhaps poeple might find it useful if I added those details in its own thread?) where I calculated the probabilities of how many meld cards are needed on average (I see you don't have the best luck here). Asssuming we don't gem meld any farmable 4*s, and do at least the first 3 melds on a meld day (you will have 90%+ expertise after this so they can be performed as soon as you farm the extra cards) the meld requirements split is as follows (count includes the evolved card):
2 card = 15% 3 cards = 12.7% 4 cards = 10.8% 5 cards = 9.2% 6 cards = 53.3%
so the average no. of cards required will be ~4.7. If we do a single gem meld this drops to just under 4.
Those give an average no. of melded oracles in 5 months to be between 6 and 9 copies total. Even if you are really unlucky, 2 is very low, which indicates you are not farming shards very often or not using meld days. Not using omni shards does reduce output by ~1/3 - but thats still 4-6 melds of each card in that time you should expect.
10 months to meld a fafnir might seem alot, but there is a >50% chance you wont need all 5 copies. If you are close to your first, and you can keep the 3rd map open in your guild (and you can clear the maps quick!!! I can clear them in a day or 2 on my own most of the time), then its plausable you could manage a card a month (using some omnis, maybe not 15 though) to up the pace. That means that every month, you wil have an ~1 in 4 chance of moving your revive to fafnir. After that, pump essences into dodge and give him your best runes. In the mean time, you can use a stoneskin carrier if you have lots of spare nidd/bloodletter or pontiffs.
That is also a nice attainable goal to reach. I picked to use drone instead (my guild doesn't have the contribution to keep anything past map 1 open) after getting VS, rather than long term pushing SA. I'm pretty happy with it, I got it on meld 2, so only took me a month or 2 to get it done.
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Post by nufan on Sept 18, 2017 16:04:36 GMT
10 months to meld a fafnir might seem alot, but there is a >50% chance you wont need all 5 copies. If you are close to your first, and you can keep the 3rd map open in your guild (and you can clear the maps quick!!! I can clear them in a day or 2 on my own most of the time), then its plausable you could manage a card a month (using some omnis, maybe not 15 though) to up the pace. That means that every month, you wil have an ~1 in 4 chance of moving your revive to fafnir. After that, pump essences into dodge and give him your best runes. In the mean time, you can use a stoneskin carrier if you have lots of spare nidd/bloodletter or pontiffs. would you bother to share your GM deck please?
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Nidhogg? Recycle 2 (even 1), revive. The rest fa etc. Case closed.
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Post by jp on Sept 18, 2017 22:04:50 GMT
2 melded HBs and oracles in 5 months seems very low, did you not get any of the 4* human melds they were giving away? Bet I got 6 or 7 melded Oracles in that time. Did you use omni shards? I still have 100+ and I use them quite liberally for HB/oracle farming. You can pull ~1-2 cards a week for each without spending. That equates to ~30-35 cards say in 5 months. I put some comments on gem melding in the rush questions thread (perhaps poeple might find it useful if I added those details in its own thread?) where I calculated the probabilities of how many meld cards are needed on average (I see you don't have the best luck here). Asssuming we don't gem meld any farmable 4*s, and do at least the first 3 melds on a meld day (you will have 90%+ expertise after this so they can be performed as soon as you farm the extra cards) the meld requirements split is as follows (count includes the evolved card): 2 card = 15% 3 cards = 12.7% 4 cards = 10.8% 5 cards = 9.2% 6 cards = 53.3% so the average no. of cards required will be ~4.7. If we do a single gem meld this drops to just under 4. Those give an average no. of melded oracles in 5 months to be between 6 and 9 copies total. Even if you are really unlucky, 2 is very low, which indicates you are not farming shards very often or not using meld days. Not using omni shards does reduce output by ~1/3 - but thats still 4-6 melds of each card in that time you should expect. 10 months to meld a fafnir might seem alot, but there is a >50% chance you wont need all 5 copies. If you are close to your first, and you can keep the 3rd map open in your guild (and you can clear the maps quick!!! I can clear them in a day or 2 on my own most of the time), then its plausable you could manage a card a month (using some omnis, maybe not 15 though) to up the pace. That means that every month, you wil have an ~1 in 4 chance of moving your revive to fafnir. After that, pump essences into dodge and give him your best runes. In the mean time, you can use a stoneskin carrier if you have lots of spare nidd/bloodletter or pontiffs. That is also a nice attainable goal to reach. I picked to use drone instead (my guild doesn't have the contribution to keep anything past map 1 open) after getting VS, rather than long term pushing SA. I'm pretty happy with it, I got it on meld 2, so only took me a month or 2 to get it done. Thanks for taking the time to write, yes, I do have 6 copies of 4* human meld and 150 4* omnis, I was saving all for QT,michael, and other rare 4* for transmutation, and i did not expect to have such bad luck in melding, it was a shocker for me. I was wrong about Oracle, just realized I had 6 copies of oracle already for violence grimoire before I started to meld her. so it was 2 finished meld plus 4 copies for a total of 16 cards in 5 month and I farmed her 3 dungeon a day for just about 95% of the time, average about 3 shards a day, but Horned beast on the other hand was correct, a total of about 12/13 copies in 5 month, average about 2.5 shards a day. My luck in shards wasn't always like that, i don't know what happened but after a version update when i was around lvl 60 the shard drop rate just decreased noticeably, even those thats needed for thalassa, which is crazy because they are just 3 stars. You must have much better luck then me in shard drops, Even if I did use 4* omnis i still wouldn't come close to 30-35 cards in 5 month, i would require atleast 4 shards a day. However, my luck in melding is improving (knock on wood), previous to a month ago all of my melds (around 12) all required full copies but this last month I started to have some luck, (still can't compare to my ALT, it has some really good luck), not sure what happened but i will take it. As for Fafnir, my guild is a midsize guild as far as energy is concerned, i am a captain there, i could actually open map 3, 12 times a month but it would be really selfish of me, i wanted to have a mix of maps for everyone, I have plenty of Bloodletter, and Mythril is an option for me, i have 188k ore and i can do gem mines everyday, even after i get VS lvl 4 I would still have 68k ore left, its just that I havn't decided on VS or SA. My options right now is VS lvl4 plus Mytril, or SA plus Bloodletter, I also have the option of going after Wraith hunter in a couple of month (as a 2nd main 5* hero), since SA and Wraith have somewhat similar skills not sure what to do.
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Post by squirreleyez on Sept 18, 2017 22:05:01 GMT
Guild Map 3 provides fafnir shards, while 4 provides the Mimir, Abaddon, and Bloodletter. You could easily farm fafnir in a small guild with friends, or even start your own if you have a deck that can do decent damage. It's actually not that hard to get these. The others... yeah... there's a pay wall or luck wall behind them. Fafnir, mimir, abaddon are all popular shards, it took me 2 month to almost finish one fafnir (don't want to spend omnis on these) and that's with loosing lots of sleep, and with my bad luck in melding (85% required full copies) it would take me a good 10 month to collect. i have no problem with guild maps, thought about my own farming guild with my 1 alternate but after some calculation, it might be worse (time wise), unless i create 4/5 more alternate, but i am spending too much time on this game already. You have no idea how I felt when 5 month collection of Horned beast and Oracles gone in just 2 melds, I was close to slam my phone, ok, I will be fair, I could of saved 1 copy by spending gems but at the time i was saving for alice bond. You know a guild where I can collect 5 copies in 2/3 month? Sorry it's taken you so long man... game is definitely a patience game, and I feel that. Regarding Fafnir, I personally would absolutely use Omni shards if you are having trouble obtaining from guild, especially if you are trying to do all the Lost Relic events, assuming you've finished saving for all Alice Bonds. I would also gem meld him only on 2x Meld Days. Sounds like you are in a good habit of NOT spending gems, but melds like this are one of the single best uses of gems in game. What makes me feel better about my success/failure in melding is just to assume it will take max copies. Anything that finishes early is just a bonus on top.
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Post by jp on Sept 19, 2017 0:25:00 GMT
Sorry it's taken you so long man... game is definitely a patience game, and I feel that. Regarding Fafnir, I personally would absolutely use Omni shards if you are having trouble obtaining from guild, especially if you are trying to do all the Lost Relic events, assuming you've finished saving for all Alice Bonds. I would also gem meld him only on 2x Meld Days. Sounds like you are in a good habit of NOT spending gems, but melds like this are one of the single best uses of gems in game. What makes me feel better about my success/failure in melding is just to assume it will take max copies. Anything that finishes early is just a bonus on top. I just started to spend gems on melding since i obtained full bonds, its really helpful and strangely enough luck has been better where my last 3 out of 4 melds didn't require full copies. I don't go all out for every LR events, I dish out when its the creature that I wanted, if not i just open enough to get couple keys and save some map with 2 gold chest for later, the reason, again, its bad luck, between map 7 thru 13, i only average 9 out of possible 13 gold chest after 2/3 refreshes, I jump for joy when i can get atleast 11 gold chest, I guess i could spend gems to refresh them but it feels like a waste especially on creatures that I don't care for, reserving my gems for 2/3rd gem mine and Momoya days for sparks, half way there . Right now, I have 64 5* omnis, 15 reserved for G. mystic, 15 reserved for Hippo, 15 for Soul shrew, that leaves me with 19 more, when i first started LR, I was averaging 40% 5* omni drops then it went down to 30% after I collected 20+ and now its down to 20ish %, so i am more hesitant in spending them unless I have to, my only saving grace is I have the option to use Drone instead of Fafnir. I know exactly what you mean, its a patience game, literally, I didn't know what i got my self into and now with full bonds I can't get my self out of it, lol, however, I am telling my self to not to care as much, its just a game and its helping but still, there are days where i want to smash my phone, but today is a good day 20 sparks for 800 tickets .
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 19, 2017 13:26:22 GMT
I used my percieved average drop of 5 shards a day for oracle + HB, so maybe you have bad luck all round! Account-based RNG?
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Post by n4k3dm1k3 on Sept 19, 2017 13:35:20 GMT
Fafnir, mimir, abaddon are all popular shards, it took me 2 month to almost finish one fafnir (don't want to spend omnis on these) and that's with loosing lots of sleep, and with my bad luck in melding (85% required full copies) it would take me a good 10 month to collect. i have no problem with guild maps, thought about my own farming guild with my 1 alternate but after some calculation, it might be worse (time wise), unless i create 4/5 more alternate, but i am spending too much time on this game already. You have no idea how I felt when 5 month collection of Horned beast and Oracles gone in just 2 melds, I was close to slam my phone, ok, I will be fair, I could of saved 1 copy by spending gems but at the time i was saving for alice bond. You know a guild where I can collect 5 copies in 2/3 month? Sorry it's taken you so long man... game is definitely a patience game, and I feel that. Regarding Fafnir, I personally would absolutely use Omni shards if you are having trouble obtaining from guild, especially if you are trying to do all the Lost Relic events, assuming you've finished saving for all Alice Bonds. I would also gem meld him only on 2x Meld Days. Sounds like you are in a good habit of NOT spending gems, but melds like this are one of the single best uses of gems in game. What makes me feel better about my success/failure in melding is just to assume it will take max copies. Anything that finishes early is just a bonus on top.This also sums up my melding philosophy. A pessimist is never disapointed! As for melding lucky, I seem to mostly get 1 or 2 card melds when I have 5 copies waiting! While its nice, it can feel more like a slap in the face after 4 or 5 YOLO attempts have failed before that!
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10 months to meld a fafnir might seem alot, but there is a >50% chance you wont need all 5 copies. If you are close to your first, and you can keep the 3rd map open in your guild (and you can clear the maps quick!!! I can clear them in a day or 2 on my own most of the time), then its plausable you could manage a card a month (using some omnis, maybe not 15 though) to up the pace. That means that every month, you wil have an ~1 in 4 chance of moving your revive to fafnir. After that, pump essences into dodge and give him your best runes. In the mean time, you can use a stoneskin carrier if you have lots of spare nidd/bloodletter or pontiffs. would you bother to share your GM deck please? Sure, I may 'bother' ;p I mainly use a zerker deck, picking mostly out of the following: Support FA oracle x3, FA Treant elder, QT, MD, ET warlock x4, voodoo sentry with L7 rune Attack FA twins x2, FA graboid x2, FA panther x2, bloodlust swordmaster x2, FA Anathema Use MD vs magic decks, QT for less than 10 creatures for rage control/gain, 3 healers (2 bless) - use FA for 9,10 creatures, BW's when you can get them alone (the HP buff for your boars really helps keeping 3 alive). Use as many BWs as you can when the number of creatures is low - but keep in mind you will need to put your attack creatures out first, so it can be luck of the draw (same goes for MD, if you need him and he is out last you could be in trouble). Attack is picked out of the rest you can take, and what you face. FA anethema is new, I tended to put twins against FA before, then buff my Sac Ana to deal with the pontiffs that get left over. Having an FA bullseye neander to put in and build boar attack from the start helps alot. The swordmasters are good vs 10 creatures, as long as they don't go against to much dodge (if possible dodge should be to the right, sweeping blow seems to check across, left then right. If any attacks are dodged, so are the attack checks that follow it). SMs will build up atack pretty quickly, but when your boars are supported well they can add 230atk each when your rage is full - this adds up quickly. Graboid vs humas is very strong. Panthers are good, but I tend to use them less than others do! Rune can add some atk for neighbouring creatures, but I find that effect if fairly negligable compared to boar boosting. Remember stoneskin vs retreat. Against rip, try immunity if possible - MD is OK, I use cancer sometimes. I have an FA5 taurus elder that works well against rip, since it takes 0 physical damage. On maps when hero skills are a big issue, try Captivator (or other non-summon creature with a useful damage/heal skill) with voodoo sentry on the right. If you have the right creatures (eg. taurus) you can use a warhungry/beserk/battlecry to try take out full creatures. I find this stratergy underwhelming using the regualr F2P options (anything melded with 1/2 other big attack buffs - eg. BB8+ravage) You usually need to manually place all creatures to get the best positioning (and get QT last) - don't put MD vs any attack builders/very high attack, I usually can support ~1000+hp heal on him with runes etc! Attack creatures can take a while to farm, but FA twins/graboid are good elsewhere. Panthers should be easy from GM too. While I was building my deck, I had loads of neander giants - I used a few with FA and they were a good stopgap. Speaking of this tread, zerker GM is the only place I would be likely to use an FA Nidd - but the other options are much cheaper I think. Hopefully a few other guys can post some of their adaptaions of this - most of these details can be found in the Beserker GM deck thread on the forum (TLDR see that post) Would be interested to see differing approaches - I never got Zoro working as consistently as zerker (using mainly lifesap as sustain), but since the nerf that might not be viable at all anymore. Also interested in hearing what you need to get millions of damage using WH/BC/BK setup. My setup is consistantly 1-2 Mil damage NOTE, you need to have < 30Khp on zerker - run him on as low HP and you can without being in danger of running out on some maps before gettnig all your creatures out (you might well be delayed waiting for timers on graboid etc to get them in the correct positions) - frequently my first creature out is QT, and my worlocks always seem to appear early too! The lower the HP, the lower the hero damage each turn, the more chance you have to keep your boars alive, the more atk they can build you. The ideal scenerio is that you have 3 boars up, and enough healing so they never die while taking curse dmg.
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Post by nafnist on Jan 1, 2018 11:52:53 GMT
I used my percieved average drop of 5 shards a day for oracle + HB, so maybe you have bad luck all round! Account-based RNG? I seem to get low drop rates depending on what time of the day. So if you explore at the time of Bless energy, then you will get low drop rate. And better drop rates outside the rush-hour.
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Post by sryth on Jan 1, 2018 14:48:33 GMT
I used my percieved average drop of 5 shards a day for oracle + HB, so maybe you have bad luck all round! Account-based RNG? I seem to get low drop rates depending on what time of the day. So if you explore at the time of Bless energy, then you will get low drop rate. And better drop rates outside the rush-hour. What is rush hour?
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Post by brainstorm813 on Jan 9, 2018 8:56:05 GMT
Is revive Nidhogg still viable? Or should I meld the Delay 3 out? Although I still don't have revive! Should I shoot for a recycle 2 Nidhogg? I was thinking Fafnir with Recycle might be better.
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Post by Edayn✪NFS on Jan 9, 2018 9:42:08 GMT
Revive/Recycle Nidhogg is viable in my opinion, as long as you use more than one Nidhogg in your deck for max hp pool. I guess at high ranking you might face a lot of Immunity but mid rank no that much in my opinion, so a double Delay 3 is nice to have, even with the risk of double seal the same card.
Fafnir has better sustainability though, so I guess the choice depends mostly on the rest of your deck.
I play with Berserker since a while, with 2 Nidhoggs, 1 Taurus and 1 Blood Warlock with ET10, the HP pool is just amazing.
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Post by brainstorm813 on Jan 9, 2018 20:42:48 GMT
Revive/Recycle Nidhogg is viable in my opinion, as long as you use more than one Nidhogg in your deck for max hp pool. I guess at high ranking you might face a lot of Immunity but mid rank no that much in my opinion, so a double Delay 3 is nice to have, even with the risk of double seal the same card. Fafnir has better sustainability though, so I guess the choice depends mostly on the rest of your deck. I play with Berserker since a while, with 2 Nidhoggs, 1 Taurus and 1 Blood Warlock with ET10, the HP pool is just amazing. I made a lot of mistakes early in the game so even at level 84 my deck is pretty weak lol. I wouldn't mind a Taurus though. 😘
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Post by Edayn✪NFS on Jan 10, 2018 10:24:15 GMT
Revive/Recycle Nidhogg is viable in my opinion, as long as you use more than one Nidhogg in your deck for max hp pool. I guess at high ranking you might face a lot of Immunity but mid rank no that much in my opinion, so a double Delay 3 is nice to have, even with the risk of double seal the same card. Fafnir has better sustainability though, so I guess the choice depends mostly on the rest of your deck. I play with Berserker since a while, with 2 Nidhoggs, 1 Taurus and 1 Blood Warlock with ET10, the HP pool is just amazing. I made a lot of mistakes early in the game so even at level 84 my deck is pretty weak lol. I wouldn't mind a Taurus though. 😘 I know what you mean, I started to document myself when I was level 75+ and realized how late I was on acquiring the right cards (and got soooo tired of farming Oracles for months...). The good news though is that Nidhogg is easily farmable through GMs and Altar. I got 15 Nidhoggs in a couple of month.
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