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Post by dmg88 on Aug 20, 2015 16:43:19 GMT
Possibly a stupid question: should I hold off on using my berserker, just got him so still lvl1, or burn my saved glory on his skills and use him wile I colect more shards to level up his skill? My plan is to use him to replace my gladiator I'm using in a tournament deck.
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Post by sonbalin on Aug 20, 2015 21:07:12 GMT
Use him and burn your glory IMO. 4* heroes are one of the best upgrades you can make.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Aug 21, 2015 9:49:29 GMT
A lv 1 Berserker with leveled skills is still better than any 3 star hero.
Its just a huge upgrade having 2 skills to choose from, not to mention the extra hp/atk buff.
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Post by dmg88 on Aug 21, 2015 12:08:41 GMT
Are spiky bits and sharp armor still the skills to look for with him?
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Aug 21, 2015 12:15:55 GMT
Spiky bits and full alert. Sharp armor is only for 5* hero, and sadly inferior to spiky bits for the most part.
There's a few other good options, but in general those 2 are pretty much a lock for any style of 4* Neander deck.
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Post by dmg88 on Aug 22, 2015 12:39:42 GMT
Thank you sir! Now the fun part is waiting to get raided so I can sell all the glory hero cards I've been hoarding. I've had a bait deck with 9k glory sitting out for more than a day now and no one will raid me!
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Sept 20, 2015 20:58:44 GMT
A bit late on this response, but I seem to be missing something here.
Why would you 'wait' to get raided before selling your Glory Hero cards? You can sell them any time whether you already have glory points or not. If you're raided, you're giving away glory that you could have used to level up your Berserker.
9k glory is plenty to get a good start on upgrading Berserker's talents, since the cost per talent refresh starts at 800 I think, for all 4 star heroes. It gets more expensive the more times you do it, as the guaranteed level increases. When you've used up your 9k, start selling your Glory Hero cards if you want to continue upgrading.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Sept 20, 2015 21:26:37 GMT
A bit late on this response, but I seem to be missing something here. Why would you 'wait' to get raided before selling your Glory Hero cards? You can sell them any time whether you already have glory points or not. If you're raided, you're giving away glory that you could have used to level up your Berserker. 9k glory is plenty to get a good start on upgrading Berserker's talents, since the cost per talent refresh starts at 800 I think, for all 4 star heroes. It gets more expensive the more times you do it, as the guaranteed level increases. When you've used up your 9k, start selling your Glory Hero cards if you want to continue upgrading. If he gets raided he gets protection for free, so he can hold a lot of glory without having to worry about being raided, instead of having to buy protection with gems.
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 20, 2015 21:28:43 GMT
A bit late on this response, but I seem to be missing something here. Why would you 'wait' to get raided before selling your Glory Hero cards? You can sell them any time whether you already have glory points or not. If you're raided, you're giving away glory that you could have used to level up your Berserker. 9k glory is plenty to get a good start on upgrading Berserker's talents, since the cost per talent refresh starts at 800 I think, for all 4 star heroes. It gets more expensive the more times you do it, as the guaranteed level increases. When you've used up your 9k, start selling your Glory Hero cards if you want to continue upgrading. When you get successfully raided it triggers a defence for something like 8 hours. As long as you don't raid someone else in this time you're immune to being raided yourself. This means you can sell 500k worth of glory cards or whatever and take your time levelling up your heroes/drawing runes without fear of losing any Glory. Edit - Doh! Too slow.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Sept 26, 2015 5:43:42 GMT
I didn't realize the immunity period was that long. I've never seen it written down anywhere. Just 'assumed' it was like an hour or something. Even so, to me basically 'giving away' 2,000+ glory isn't worth it to buy 8 hours of immunity. I'd definitely do it for a smaller amount but that much seems wasteful to me. Just sayin'.
I never cash/claim glory, whether cards, Guild Battle/Arena rewards or whatever until I'm absolutely ready to use it, and then only in increments, estimating what I'll need and then getting more only if I run out before I've been able to accomplish what I was trying to do.
Since I always use it right away, I've never had a problem with being raided. Why would you want to string out the time to level up a hero over 8 hours? Is there some kind of advantage to doing it that way?
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Sept 26, 2015 6:46:57 GMT
I didn't realize the immunity period was that long. I've never seen it written down anywhere. Just 'assumed' it was like an hour or something. Even so, to me basically 'giving away' 2,000+ glory isn't worth it to buy 8 hours of immunity. I'd definitely do it for a smaller amount but that much seems wasteful to me. Just sayin'. I never cash/claim glory, whether cards, Guild Battle/Arena rewards or whatever until I'm absolutely ready to use it, and then only in increments, estimating what I'll need and then getting more only if I run out before I've been able to accomplish what I was trying to do. Since I always use it right away, I've never had a problem with being raided. Why would you want to string out the time to level up a hero over 8 hours? Is there some kind of advantage to doing it that way? If you cash in 100k glory in one go, you don't want any danger of someone stumbling across you in the short window where you spend it. And if you spend it all on runes, that can be time-consuming, even spending it on hero takes time. Sure, you could sell cards one at a time, but that's mega tedious. Easier to get a cheap glory shield rather than paying gems for the shield. I wouldn't do it often, but if I was planning a huge splurge on a new hero- yeah, maybe.
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Sept 26, 2015 10:27:09 GMT
I didn't realize the immunity period was that long. I've never seen it written down anywhere. Just 'assumed' it was like an hour or something. Even so, to me basically 'giving away' 2,000+ glory isn't worth it to buy 8 hours of immunity. I'd definitely do it for a smaller amount but that much seems wasteful to me. Just sayin'. I never cash/claim glory, whether cards, Guild Battle/Arena rewards or whatever until I'm absolutely ready to use it, and then only in increments, estimating what I'll need and then getting more only if I run out before I've been able to accomplish what I was trying to do. Since I always use it right away, I've never had a problem with being raided. Why would you want to string out the time to level up a hero over 8 hours? Is there some kind of advantage to doing it that way? 2000 Glory is a small price to pay in place of gems, glory is pretty easy to get, besides for 100 gems you can more than make back the lost glory.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Sept 27, 2015 19:14:06 GMT
2000 Glory is a small price to pay in place of gems, glory is pretty easy to get, besides for 100 gems you can more than make back the lost glory. Just want to make sure I understand what you're getting at here. Is it that you can 'buy' immunity i.e. a shield, for 100 gems, so you're saying it's less 'expensive' that using glory to accomplish the same thing?
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 27, 2015 19:16:25 GMT
2000 Glory is a small price to pay in place of gems, glory is pretty easy to get, besides for 100 gems you can more than make back the lost glory. Just want to make sure I understand what you're getting at here. Is it that you can 'buy' immunity i.e. a shield, for 100 gems, so you're saying it's less 'expensive' that using glory to accomplish the same thing? That's correct. It costs 100 gems to buy immunity, the same cost as refreshing your 5 raid attempts. The buttons are right next to each other too.
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 27, 2015 19:18:31 GMT
Just want to make sure I understand what you're getting at here. Is it that you can 'buy' immunity i.e. a shield, for 100 gems, so you're saying it's less 'expensive' that using glory to accomplish the same thing? That's correct. It costs 100 gems to buy immunity, the same cost as refreshing your 5 raid attempts. The buttons are right next to each other too. Ugh just to be clear - its cheaper losing 2k glory than 100 gems. For the same 100 gems and a few thousand gold you could make much more than 2k glory. Can't edit my post with Tapatalk.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Sept 27, 2015 20:04:05 GMT
I didn't realize the immunity period was that long. I've never seen it written down anywhere. Just 'assumed' it was like an hour or something. Even so, to me basically 'giving away' 2,000+ glory isn't worth it to buy 8 hours of immunity. I'd definitely do it for a smaller amount but that much seems wasteful to me. Just sayin'. I never cash/claim glory, whether cards, Guild Battle/Arena rewards or whatever until I'm absolutely ready to use it, and then only in increments, estimating what I'll need and then getting more only if I run out before I've been able to accomplish what I was trying to do. Since I always use it right away, I've never had a problem with being raided. Why would you want to string out the time to level up a hero over 8 hours? Is there some kind of advantage to doing it that way? If you cash in 100k glory in one go, you don't want any danger of someone stumbling across you in the short window where you spend it. And if you spend it all on runes, that can be time-consuming, even spending it on hero takes time. Sure, you could sell cards one at a time, but that's mega tedious. Easier to get a cheap glory shield rather than paying gems for the shield. I wouldn't do it often, but if I was planning a huge splurge on a new hero- yeah, maybe. Well, I've never cashed in 100k glory all at once (which being f2p is probably the total of what I have on hand at any time), but I don't do it one card at a time either. How much I cash in depends on what I'm trying to do and how much I estimate it will cost. If it's the Daily Task Rune draw, it'll be around 1k glory, then, if I don't make my ten draws, another about the same amount. Doing a mega rune draw, I'd probably cash in about 10k glory, rinse and repeat as desired. If I'm leveling up a new four star hero, I begin with about 20k glory - repeat as desired. Every day, raiding nets me around 10-20k glory, which I always use right after I finish my five raids to level up heroes and then draw runes with any leftovers, since there's no way to protect it. In all of the above scenarios, I've always used the glory as soon as I receive it or cash it in, and as I said I've never had a problem losing any of it to raiding. Pretty much the only time I get raided anyway is when I'm not logged in, except for the few times I've forgotten to change back to my main deck after using a low power deck for some specific task. I never keep more than a couple hundred glory showing at any time, unless I'm using it, so anyone who raids me and wins will get 50 glory at most and usually a lot less, and once in awhile a low value shard. Needless to say, I don't get raided too often. I guess being strictly f2p, since every glory point, gem etc. is super important, I try very hard never to spend anything I don't have to, and 2k glory still seems like a lot to 'give away' or spend, however you want to look at it, although I understand if you feel that you need/want the 8 hour immunity window, it's a relatively small price to pay. I do agree though, that if I felt I needed/wanted the immunity, I would definitely go the glory route versus spending gems. P.S. While I was writing this post, I was sitting with 10k glory showing because I had just finished my raids,and had come to the forum to refresh my memory on the best talents for Dragon Rider. It's probably been about 10 minutes and no one's gone after it. AFAIK there's no immunity for the raider, correct?
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Post by sonbalin on Sept 27, 2015 20:38:12 GMT
If you've raided someone you don't get Immunity, no.
You're saying it's not worth having protection for the amount of glory you use at a time, and you're right from what you've described.
What you're not factoring in is many people, including F2P players, save up glory cards for when they've got a new hero and can easily pump 200k into talents at once. I'm sure I've read someone say they used 400k somewhere too. If you're dealing with cashing in 200k+ glory for talents you have 4 choices:
Turn it in bit by bit, which is going to take forever and a day and gets annoying going in and out of menus. Turn it all in and probably get raided for a large chunk. Buy protection for gems and turn it all in. Let someone raid you for 1 - 2k glroy and get free protection.
Nobodies suggested you need the protection for 8 hours, that's just how long it happens to last... Or somewhere around that mark. It's most likely going to take less than 5 minutes to cash in a few hundred thousand glory and spend it on talents it you've got protection up.
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Post by BK✦GamerGurl33 on Sept 27, 2015 20:47:53 GMT
Well, serves me right for not doing what I know I need to, to protect my glory and for bragging about it - karma I guess. I was here over an hour writing the previous post, and then when I came back in to add the PS, someone raided me for 1,360 glory and one Icy Mage shard. I don't have need for any more immunity today, so I'm retaliating right now, and should win back at least most of what I lost. s*** happens...especially when you're not taking care of bizness .
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Post by dmg88 on Sept 28, 2015 23:11:08 GMT
Didn't really think I'd start this kinda discussion lol. And just to clarify: I purposely left a "bait"deck up with 9k glory trying to get some one to raid me. The loss of 2-2.5k glory is no big deal when cashing in 50-60 glory cards at once. The protection time to be able to use it and not feel rushed is well worth it in the end.
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