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Post by Raoh on Oct 11, 2015 11:05:35 GMT
Guess it wasn't a bad idea to max out my 2 star heroes. They seem quite useful for this mode. Zora yesterday @ level 8 and defiler today @ level 9 makes quite quick work of the hardest levels. Thanks for the tips!
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Post by kakola on Oct 11, 2015 13:07:35 GMT
This thread is awesome, thanks!
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 7:55:41 GMT
Todays is about staying alive... without freeze seal and lowering their attack.. Any ideas ?
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 8:30:48 GMT
Todays is about staying alive... without freeze seal and lowering their attack.. Any ideas ? Royal Guard, Hero Vigor rune, 10 Oracles with Bless rune seems like a good shout. I don't have anywhere near enough Oracles for that though. A solid mixture of Bless 7+, Mass Heal and Hero Vigor rune should do it I think. The idea would be let them hit your hero until he hast enough rage to cast his skill, then top up his rage every round with Bless runes and heal each other enough that the enemy build some rage damaging your crits too.
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Post by kakola on Oct 12, 2015 9:10:05 GMT
10 Oracles with Bless rune seems like a good shout. You wont be lasting long with 10 oracles because one enemy has chainstrike. Try something like 7-8 oracles and few other human creatures to block chainstriker. I think Warlock, Royal Guard and Judgment are solid choices for hero.
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 9:15:53 GMT
10 Oracles with Bless rune seems like a good shout. You wont be lasting long with 10 oracles because one enemy has chainstrike. Try something like 7-8 oracles and few other human creatures to block chainstriker. I think Warlock, Royal Guard and Judgment are solid choices for hero. No ****s are given about Chainstrike when Blessing is active every round.
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Post by kakola on Oct 12, 2015 9:19:57 GMT
You wont be lasting long with 10 oracles because one enemy has chainstrike. Try something like 7-8 oracles and few other human creatures to block chainstriker. I think Warlock, Royal Guard and Judgment are solid choices for hero. No ****s are given about Chainstrike when Blessing is active every round. Keep dreaming bro
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 9:21:37 GMT
No ****s are given about Chainstrike when Blessing is active every round. Keep dreaming bro What does Chainstrike matter if it can't take the HP below a certain amount? The whole idea is to let the enemy damage you as much as possible to build rage, which lets you re-cast Blessing.
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Post by kakola on Oct 12, 2015 9:26:08 GMT
Keep dreaming bro What does Chainstrike matter if it can't take the HP below a certain amount? The whole idea is to let the enemy damage you as much as possible to build rage, which lets you re-cast Blessing. Well i have full set of melded oracles with bless rune 8 on every oracle. If you get chainstrike creature in the first 5 enemies youre pretty much screwed. I wasted lots of energy and i think its doable but requires luck in enemy draws. I only have 6 fa oracles though. I think they all need to be fa for this to work efficiently. Battleblow just wrecks those immunity oracles in the mix Edit: if you mix in one fa grand mage you have better chance because you can block chainstriker with it and still get heal.
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 9:32:50 GMT
You're missing the point.
With a high enough Hero Vigor rune you don't need to play your cards until Blessing is active, you will then be able to keep Blessing active every single round. FA will make no difference. Immunity will actually be better as it will stop your Oracles getting frozen, which is obviously a game breaker.
Oracles under the protection of blessing don't care about Chainstrike, Bullseye or Battleblow.
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Post by kakola on Oct 12, 2015 9:36:31 GMT
Sigh ok i give up. Try it yourself after you get some oracles melded. It sounds good in paper but its still very hard to execute.
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 9:45:11 GMT
10 Oracles wont cut it seemingly... I have 3 FA Oracles and 1 FA cleric and 2 unevolved Oracles... they Fall like flies cause it wont trigger every round.. that would take 10 lvl 10 bless runes.. most ppl have No where near that
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 9:47:27 GMT
Enemy creeps deal 1-3k dmg so you need to be able to soak meele dmg magic dmg and keep your hero alive.. and I cant recycle anything..
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 9:52:02 GMT
You get Rage from receiving damage as well as using Bless...
I can keep Blessing active with 3x Bless 10 and 2 x Bless 6. The 1k Bless cap prevents me from keeping Royal Guard alive however.
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 9:55:05 GMT
So 9 creeps with bless 6 is unable to keep hero alive on This map ?
And This is Even regarding that the enemy hero killing skill isnt based on hero hp but a pain 1k dmg each round..
So you need 1k heal for each of the enemy creeps... that Means bless on ALL cards.. with a minimum of 1k heal..
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 10:04:13 GMT
You could technically do it with 9 bless 6 crits, you would need at least a 41k HP hero though, 60-70kHP is more realistic.
I wonder if this was designed before the Bless cap was introduced?
edit - I do actually hope there's something we're all missing here, the difficulty seems completely disproportional to the past 2 days. Perhaps the last 2 days were never meant to be so easy and IGG overlooked the creative solutions people came up with.
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Post by kakola on Oct 12, 2015 10:10:35 GMT
Dunno, but now that i think of it my problem might have been fa indeed. If because of that i maybe didnt receive enough damage in first rounds to keep blessing going (plus the occasional freezes). I have hero vigor V at lvl 5 so that should do. Too bad i already stopped wasting energy and completed grimoire lvl 4 lol
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Post by sonbalin on Oct 12, 2015 10:18:34 GMT
I gave up after about 4 attempts...I've not done 4* yet though, I'm hoping someone comes up with a genius solution we've missed!
The FA may have been causing you issues if you were trying to minimise damage too much though. I think you actually need a good amount of Immunity to stop yourself being frozen, the hero damage they put out is completely ridiculous even if you use 10 bless crits.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Oct 12, 2015 12:11:26 GMT
My best so far, need more melded creatures for grimoire 3
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Post by drakkan on Oct 12, 2015 12:25:17 GMT
Well, Naruto, if you cant beat it I wont even try
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Post by drakkan on Oct 12, 2015 13:53:02 GMT
Anyways, I cant believe its meant to be done by bruteforce. Serenity protects from all skills? So nothing works, seal, puppets, instakill? Does Kitsune work?
Mithryl Drone + fatique?
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Post by hippot✪NFS on Oct 12, 2015 14:40:51 GMT
Anyways, I cant believe its meant to be done by bruteforce. Serenity protects from all skills? So nothing works, seal, puppets, instakill? Does Kitsune work? Mithryl Drone + fatique? For some reason, venom edge works. Venom edge if activated could stop them attacking. That solves 1 problem out of many
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Oct 12, 2015 14:43:51 GMT
Venom edge works, thats the only hero/creature skill that does. Kumiho also works, but it can only remove the insta kill one out of the play.
Captivator, frost blade, captain crook, fatigue, oceanus etc doesn't work.
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Post by orgoth on Oct 12, 2015 14:44:39 GMT
10 immunity bless cards with lvl 10 bless runes and either judgement, royal guard, warlock (with oracles). this is all i know the only other way i think is to somehow negate the magic damage with reflect rune
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Post by orgoth on Oct 12, 2015 14:45:41 GMT
all this for 1/50 a V rune
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 15:00:42 GMT
Its for the problem Solving in it.. thats the fun part... but This just seems totally crazy difficult...
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Post by fraildk on Oct 12, 2015 15:00:55 GMT
Tomorrow is the same as day 1 apparently so should be no problem.
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Post by Ominous on Oct 12, 2015 15:06:25 GMT
As there are 3 types of runes (Attack/Vitality/Protean), I would imagine we have the 3 set rotations. Might take a while to figure out today's problem though.
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Oct 12, 2015 16:40:21 GMT
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Post by opalnera on Oct 12, 2015 16:45:51 GMT
Wow very nicely done, and not getting rewarded, what a bust....i hope u reported it, and get your wel deserved reward !!.
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