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Post by ninjafred on Oct 13, 2015 10:41:41 GMT
There's a new heist event with 2 5star creatures : Jormungand and Blood Elf
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Post by drakkan on Oct 13, 2015 11:10:33 GMT
I noticed that this event started at 5.30 and lasts until 00.00. What is this for? Why isn't it 24h like last one? So my timezone will be 6h short to play it now.. ? Wtf
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Post by rafutela✪NFS on Oct 13, 2015 11:36:10 GMT
I noticed that this event started at 5.30 and lasts until 00.00. What is this for? Why isn't it 24h like last one? So my timezone will be 6h short to play it now.. ? Wtf Just checked, last for 1d 18h from now ... Actually, it is longer.
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Post by kryterion on Oct 13, 2015 11:36:31 GMT
It is actually longer than the first heist as it is active tommorow too!
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Post by drakkan on Oct 13, 2015 11:42:50 GMT
It is actually longer than the first heist as it is active tommorow too! Ah true, you're right. Well its better, but its still not fair, I dont see a point to start such events at 5.30h (that is ~15h in my timezone). What logic is that.. put 24h event or if its not enought, then put 48h. There are lots of players in Europe .. by their graph, most players are from Europe .. and we have 1.5day to play while some have full 2days ..
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Post by kryterion on Oct 13, 2015 13:24:46 GMT
It is actually longer than the first heist as it is active tommorow too! Ah true, you're right. Well its better, but its still not fair, I dont see a point to start such events at 5.30h (that is ~15h in my timezone). What logic is that.. put 24h event or if its not enought, then put 48h. There are lots of players in Europe .. by their graph, most players are from Europe .. and we have 1.5day to play while some have full 2days .. True, i am in the same spot here..also, is worth noting that the maximum amount of shards one can lose is a daily (not event) cap, so in this particular situation we can lose twice as much shards.
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Post by sylava1 on Oct 13, 2015 14:10:22 GMT
It seems to be more difficult now. Just did 5 succesful heists with high or very high targets but got 0 shards.
Anyone else noticed?
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Post by ninjafred on Oct 13, 2015 14:34:30 GMT
It seems to be more difficult now. Just did 5 succesful heists with high or very high targets but got 0 shards. Anyone else noticed? Same for me. I think Jormungand shards are less common than Paragon since they are not available from guild maps...
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Post by sylava1 on Oct 13, 2015 15:07:14 GMT
I did 10 more wins and gotten 3 shards. So far 25 tries 6 gained 3 lost. It will be difficult to make 50
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Post by orgoth on Oct 13, 2015 15:15:32 GMT
probably will aim for a 4* card the highlight here is definitely blood elf, jormugand is anti magic emperor but who uses him anyway, wolveria has a few skills nice for neander deck abd primma donna looks like a human harb
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Post by orgoth on Oct 13, 2015 15:18:21 GMT
compared to last heist they seen to balance it heavily sibce there are only 2 5*s everybidy would want a piece of it, second all shards will hace to cone from the event itself so there are actually a limited no of blood elfs, jormugands, etc... that can be completed this round.
edit: Jormugand is safest option sonce you can still get him in ore mall (unless you dont think you will spend for him anytime soon)
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Post by godlion10 on Oct 13, 2015 17:25:52 GMT
I made 10 tries with my deck I lost 3 battles and won 8 shards all very hight opponents.I thought it was very stupid since it started in a random time ... I was in school and lucked to see it when I caught wifi but if it will be tomorrow as well then it should be enough time for me to gather 50 shards.
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Post by igjarvi on Oct 13, 2015 18:49:51 GMT
The drop rate seems to be much lower since last time, or there's some underlining mechanic that is unknown to me. I've done 9 successfull heists for blood elf at "very high" and single shards, and I've gotten three so far, of which most was from the first five battles a little after it opened. I've also done a couple of "high" drop rate battles with a chance of 1-2 shards, and it also seems to give about one in three.
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Post by devindestroyer on Oct 13, 2015 20:32:30 GMT
These odds feel the exact same to me as paragon...I've made 4 refresh purchases in the event over the course of 10 hours of heisting at all possible times. Im at 43 shards now out of about 9-10 heists ( 5 orders each ofc). one time I got 8 shards from 5 attempts... Note: Jormungand is my heist target. Also I thought blood elf was only chance of 1 shard per heist. This one would be the rare heist. The jormungand is not the highlight here. I just want one because it looks cool. wont use it but looks cool
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Post by entropy✪NFS on Oct 14, 2015 3:04:17 GMT
orgoth's points are absolutely valid. Unlike the previous event, where almost every player already had a couple of Paragon shards thus we had a quite big base pool of shards to begin with for the creature, now all shrads are coming from drops during the day, which droprate is abyssmal (I got one shard for spending 400 energy on explore). It is a zero sum game now, just try to do some heists for Blood Elf and it will be clear as day that this event was a big fuckup again from IGG. Before launching the Heist event they would need to inject some shards into the game's economy so there is a certain pool of shards upon which the event can be built. That would eliminate the current problem and would encourage people to refresh Heist with gems. While last time I refreshed the maximum number of times (as a sidenote the creatures were much better to begin with), I didn't use that feature this time, as basically here is no one to Heist from, and when you are succesful after all these odds, the droprate seems to be uch lower than last time. All-in-all, IMO today's event isn't well organized in so many levels, but as the previous one was the best event I have seen so far in the game I still hope they will save the Heist feature before going down like Sky Arena.
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Post by ittadakimaas on Oct 14, 2015 5:53:13 GMT
Before launching the Heist event they would need to inject some shards into the game's economy so there is a certain pool of shards upon which the event can be built. That would eliminate the current problem and would encourage people to refresh Heist with gems. While last time I refreshed the maximum number of times (as a sidenote the creatures were much better to begin with), I didn't use that feature this time, as basically here is no one to Heist from, and when you are succesful after all these odds, the droprate seems to be uch lower than last time. Agreed that a shard injection is needed, but I assumed that they had done so even for the previous heist event. There were many very low level players (even under the guild threshold) with Paragon shards showing up and it is highly unlikely that all of them either got these shards from exploration / beating stronger players with pre-existing Paragon shards. My guess is that injection was there last time as well as this, but seeing how well people could without spending money in the previous run, they probably just nerfed drop rates... Just my guess though - we'll never know for sure
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Oct 14, 2015 6:39:06 GMT
Before launching the Heist event they would need to inject some shards into the game's economy so there is a certain pool of shards upon which the event can be built. That would eliminate the current problem and would encourage people to refresh Heist with gems. While last time I refreshed the maximum number of times (as a sidenote the creatures were much better to begin with), I didn't use that feature this time, as basically here is no one to Heist from, and when you are succesful after all these odds, the droprate seems to be uch lower than last time. Agreed that a shard injection is needed, but I assumed that they had done so even for the previous heist event. There were many very low level players (even under the guild threshold) with Paragon shards showing up and it is highly unlikely that all of them either got these shards from exploration / beating stronger players with pre-existing Paragon shards. My guess is that injection was there last time as well as this, but seeing how well people could without spending money in the previous run, they probably just nerfed drop rates... Just my guess though - we'll never know for sure Those shards probably came from paragon events. I had 4 paragon shards before I started collecting from guild maps.
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Post by sylava1 on Oct 14, 2015 7:24:12 GMT
True i had 20 paragon shards from event. Maybe there will be a blood elf event soon. I switched to wolverine and completed it. Like the card for my spikey bites low power deck. Back to blood elf now but i expect to finish with only 10-20 shards. Got a drop in the mines today though. In time i will get to 50
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Post by ittadakimaas on Oct 14, 2015 7:55:40 GMT
Agreed that a shard injection is needed, but I assumed that they had done so even for the previous heist event. There were many very low level players (even under the guild threshold) with Paragon shards showing up and it is highly unlikely that all of them either got these shards from exploration / beating stronger players with pre-existing Paragon shards. My guess is that injection was there last time as well as this, but seeing how well people could without spending money in the previous run, they probably just nerfed drop rates... Just my guess though - we'll never know for sure Those shards probably came from paragon events. I had 4 paragon shards before I started collecting from guild maps. Good point, that probably helped the shard numbers a lot. (although I would suspect that the injection still happened - definitely for Shinryu probably for the others as well)
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Post by Izanami✪NFS on Oct 14, 2015 13:03:50 GMT
Those shards probably came from paragon events. I had 4 paragon shards before I started collecting from guild maps. Good point, that probably helped the shard numbers a lot. (although I would suspect that the injection still happened - definitely for Shinryu probably for the others as well) It did happen. A lot of players explored at least 1 Shinryu shard and many already had paragon and angel prime shards from events + guild as someone pointed out, the problem with this event isnt the distribution of shards into the games economy through non-heist means. The problem with this event is igg did not anticipate the heists target to be so inbalanced, 90 % of players are heisting blood elf and the initial shard pool can't support it. Too many shards are in the hands of the pay to win community now, and can't be reasonably stolen by normal players, so there's no reason to spend gems for extra attempts, or even heist for blood elf shards anymore. Since they limit the amount of shards that can be explored and that can be stolen from you, they need to regulate the amount of shards players can steal or at least cap it at 50 +the amount of shards that you can lose. As some pay to win players have stolen over 80 shards lol, if they made it more possible for everyone to complete the events creatures more players would spend money and buy gems but now there's no point if you can't heist the only remained shards from the op pay to win community with 50+ shards. Either they need to do that or make all the creautures offered be equally strong and not jormungand lol so their equally sought after. Not hating on the pay to win community, they're vital, and in all events they deserve an edge if their paying money for this game, but this event kindof collapses under its own weight with this kindof in balance and I doubt is making them much money or keeping majority of players safisfied.
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Post by sylava1 on Oct 14, 2015 13:09:21 GMT
I even get no target found when looking for blood elf. Anyway i got my wolverine and am pretty happy with it. Fits well in my neander deck
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Oct 14, 2015 14:43:12 GMT
Blood elf is impossible to get now if you don't have good deck / willing to spend. Reason is the lack of blood elf shards, the super high demand (bcs the other cards suck). Plus people are using energy on mines which leads to overall less shards for everything.
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Post by Ominous on Oct 14, 2015 15:03:58 GMT
yep I'm stuck - same few high level opponents or none at all for blood elf...
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Post by ittadakimaas on Oct 14, 2015 16:13:24 GMT
Good point, that probably helped the shard numbers a lot. (although I would suspect that the injection still happened - definitely for Shinryu probably for the others as well) the problem with this event isnt the distribution of shards into the games economy through non-heist means. The problem with this event is igg did not anticipate the heists target to be so inbalanced, 90 % of players are heisting blood elf and the initial shard pool can't support it. Excellent point! They definitely need to change their heist rules by enforcing caps on the max number you can steal or/and inject artificial shards after the first half of the event when the "rich have gotten richer and are hoarding" so that the weaker / poorer players can have access to a (smaller and tougher, but still farmable) pool of shards. I am F2P but have nothing against P2P - we need them to keep the game running and its only fair that they get some advantages for their money. But as you pointed out, the current event shuts out the majority of the player pool after just a few hours which is definitely not desirable...
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Post by Eladion on Oct 14, 2015 20:30:26 GMT
Another major difference between last heist to this one, is that everyone had already organized their best defense deck in advance. Last time, we had at least several hours to steal from many players, even high level ones or PtW ones. This time, most of the shards were held by players with 11000+ power decks, from the very beginning of the event.
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Post by zerole on Oct 14, 2015 23:19:39 GMT
God I love this event. Started at 0 Jorg Shards, currently 37/50 as a completely F2P player.
I've yet to get any event shards in Mazes/Exploring though.
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Post by zerole on Oct 14, 2015 23:21:38 GMT
yep I'm stuck - same few high level opponents or none at all for blood elf... Have you tried weakening your deck? I was running into a similar problem finding "High" targets so I just removed one of my cards and that made things a lot easier. I run a Recycle/Disposal deck so it wasn't a big loss.
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Post by orgoth on Oct 14, 2015 23:25:28 GMT
jormugand is obtainavle by mine mall which some p2p players might have chose to farm before hand(not expecting heist anytime soon)
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Post by Fyefaust on Oct 15, 2015 9:27:25 GMT
God I love this event. Started at 0 Jorg Shards, currently 37/50 as a completely F2P player. I've yet to get any event shards in Mazes/Exploring though. Same here, started with 0 Jormungand shards and now i have 38/50. I guess I'm gonna buy the rest from mine mall. Also I didn't use any gems for extra tickets. Just love the Heist event. Sure Jormungand isn't anything like hippo/mystic, but I think he'll be valuable in some guild maps & Gauntlet.
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Post by orgoth on Oct 15, 2015 9:41:22 GMT
i personally dont think jormugand is worth it unless they enhance reflect to something like or a lower version of spiky
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