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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 7, 2015 10:53:30 GMT
F|_|CK !! I spent all my ore on a second Oceanus last week That is a "first world problem" at it's finest.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 7, 2015 10:56:18 GMT
Seems like IGG is trying to bring back some mortii love. Alice has been so rude to them.
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Post by drakkan on Dec 7, 2015 10:59:46 GMT
F|_|CK !! I spent all my ore on a second Oceanus last week I have similar problem .. I have enough shards to get 2nd Oceanus .. I waited to see those new version release notes before I spend gems.. and I'm not sure what to do now..
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 7, 2015 11:06:41 GMT
F|_|CK !! I spent all my ore on a second Oceanus last week I have similar problem .. I have enough shards to get 2nd Oceanus .. I waited to see those new version release notes before I spend gems.. and I'm not sure what to do now.. Have you converted your ores? I pulled an Oceanus few days back and now I have accumulated enough gems from tournament and explorer gate, wondering if I should go for Alice bond or the new hero. I also need a drone badly. I could probably do bond and mines together though.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 7, 2015 11:10:36 GMT
I have similar problem .. I have enough shards to get 2nd Oceanus .. I waited to see those new version release notes before I spend gems.. and I'm not sure what to do now.. Have you converted your ores? I pulled an Oceanus few days back and now I have accumulated enough gems from tournament and explorer gate, wondering if I should go for Alice bond or the new hero. I also need a drone badly. I could probably do bond and mines together though. To be honest I'm going for the new hero just for her profile picture XD
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 7, 2015 11:23:38 GMT
Have you converted your ores? I pulled an Oceanus few days back and now I have accumulated enough gems from tournament and explorer gate, wondering if I should go for Alice bond or the new hero. I also need a drone badly. I could probably do bond and mines together though. To be honest I'm going for the new hero just for her profile picture XD Lol everybody does that to Overlord. Even if they didn't mean it to be that way Overlord eventually becomes only as valuable as a sticker. But this new mortii hero does sound promising.
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Post by yoshikyoshik_WK_ on Dec 7, 2015 11:34:24 GMT
F|_|CK !! I spent all my ore on a second Oceanus last week why did you do that anyways? Didn't you want to go for an Alchemist? Do you think/thought 2 Oceanuses are better than 1 Oceanus and 1 Alchemist? Or do you own already an Alchemist? I'm just interested to know
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Post by yoshikyoshik_WK_ on Dec 7, 2015 11:35:16 GMT
Seems like IGG is trying to bring back some mortii love. Alice has been so rude to them. IMO it was clear that they also bring some nice Mortii heroes Lets see what else future will bring
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 11:44:28 GMT
voldrox [BK] and yoshikyoshik_WK_ Yes I converted them all to Oceanus shards and have 85 shards now. With all the nerfing going on I didn't want to end up possibly without a second Oceanus in the new update 8.5. I chose a 2nd Oceanus because I don't have any revives. Oceanus + Paragon closes that gap nicely and allowed me to hover around top 50 in tournament. A 2nd one will keep me solidly up there ... for a while at least lol
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Post by yoshikyoshik_WK_ on Dec 7, 2015 11:53:57 GMT
voldrox [BK] and yoshikyoshik_WK_ Yes I converted them all to Oceanus shards and have 85 shards now. With all the nerfing going on I didn't want to end up possibly without a second Oceanus in the new update 8.5. I chose a 2nd Oceanus because I don't have any revives. Oceanus + Paragon closes that gap nicely and allowed me to hover around top 50 in tournament. A 2nd one will keep me solidly up there ... for a while at least lol Alright, good points Will keep it mind... Right now i'm owning 1 Oceanus and have 60.000 ore... either i will take Alchemist or that new Mortii hero... lets see...
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 7, 2015 12:48:05 GMT
voldrox [BK] and yoshikyoshik_WK_ Yes I converted them all to Oceanus shards and have 85 shards now. With all the nerfing going on I didn't want to end up possibly without a second Oceanus in the new update 8.5. I chose a 2nd Oceanus because I don't have any revives. Oceanus + Paragon closes that gap nicely and allowed me to hover around top 50 in tournament. A 2nd one will keep me solidly up there ... for a while at least lol Alright, good points Will keep it mind... Right now i'm owning 1 Oceanus and have 60.000 ore... either i will take Alchemist or that new Mortii hero... lets see... I don't like the percentage chance thing in this game, the odds are usually bad. The new hero does seem OP but it will rely on RNG and that's bad in my dictionary. It would be a different thing if that % increases with Hero level, something like Thor. But as far as I can perceive Alchemist is still a better hero to me, it seems consistent as Warlock / Judgement. It would be wise if one holds on to those ores for now.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Dec 7, 2015 12:51:27 GMT
voldrox [BK] and yoshikyoshik_WK_ Yes I converted them all to Oceanus shards and have 85 shards now. With all the nerfing going on I didn't want to end up possibly without a second Oceanus in the new update 8.5. I chose a 2nd Oceanus because I don't have any revives. Oceanus + Paragon closes that gap nicely and allowed me to hover around top 50 in tournament. A 2nd one will keep me solidly up there ... for a while at least lol In that sense Oceanus is a good choice. I don't have Revive /rec2 and i have hard time staying 100 in tournament I can't imagine trying to hold on under 50.
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Post by hugey on Dec 7, 2015 13:28:39 GMT
F|_|CK !! I spent all my ore on a second Oceanus last week Why do you need/want 2?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 14:09:21 GMT
hugey, One for during the week and one for weekends. Can't burn the old chap out he needs to rest sometimes On a serious note though, scroll up.
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Post by hugey on Dec 7, 2015 14:33:05 GMT
hugey , One for during the week and one for weekends. Can't burn the old chap out he needs to rest sometimes On a serious note though, scroll up. Ah right, I guess that's logical then Still saving up for my first Oceanus
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 14:47:59 GMT
Just feels like a bad choice with this new OP farmable hero. From the description posted, this Mortii hero sounds like it will be the new GO TO hero. Just reading the description it sounds similar to Light's hand with the difference being that you can't lift a spell. If it works as described, retreat queen T and cards like Alice will be even more necessary.
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Post by Gfuchs on Dec 7, 2015 15:57:50 GMT
Any other chenges to the ore mall besides the new hero? I mean, Oceanus, Mythril drone etc are still there for the same price, right?
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Post by dreamingdragon on Dec 7, 2015 16:28:57 GMT
Everything is still the same in the ore mall, just the new hero added.
The new hero does look like another version of Light's Hand. Due to a 4 day free event that drops Light's Hand shard from explore, a lot of players in TW server have Light's Hand, and a few have level 4 or 5 Light's Hand (they probably bought energy and had good luck in shard dropping). Light's Hand has 20% chance to add the debuff at level 1, and 4% increase for the chance per level, so level 10 Light's Hand has 60% chance to add the debuff that removes the creature if it is killed with the debuff. It is interesting to see Light's Hand in action at 11-4, the animation for creature being killed with the debuff just shatters the creature then the creature disappears.
The text 除外 is the same in the skill description of the new hero and Light's Hand which means remove from the game/play . At level 1, the new hero already has 45% chance to do it if she kills the creature, I would personally think this chance will not increase with level (or increase really slowly like 1% or 2% per level), otherwise it might be too OP. But it is IGG's design, who knows.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 7, 2015 18:38:32 GMT
According to IGG, the new 5 star hero is going to be called "Spirit Arbiter" in the English version.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 19:12:01 GMT
Any pics of the new hero?
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Post by hugey on Dec 7, 2015 19:15:36 GMT
Any pics of the new hero? The avatar of the guy above you is Spirit Arbiter This is the image they posted on the DH Facebook page So if Spirit Arbiter is the new hero, this is her pic
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 7, 2015 19:26:28 GMT
Any pics of the new hero? The avatar of the guy above you is Spirit Arbiter This is the image they posted on the DH Facebook page So if Spirit Arbiter is the new hero, this is her pic I wonder why they posted it in black and white and said it was "concept art". On the TW version, it is clearly in color and is clearly not concept art.
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Post by hugey on Dec 7, 2015 19:27:53 GMT
The avatar of the guy above you is Spirit Arbiter This is the image they posted on the DH Facebook page So if Spirit Arbiter is the new hero, this is her pic I wonder why they posted it in black and white and said it was "concept art". On the TW version, it is clearly in color and is clearly not concept art. Maybe as a teaser, I don't know Her hero skill sounds like Paw Master 2.0 though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2015 19:30:05 GMT
Thanks for sharing. I guess we will have to wait and see the rage in action or get the proper english definition.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 7, 2015 19:31:31 GMT
I wonder why they posted it in black and white and said it was "concept art". On the TW version, it is clearly in color and is clearly not concept art. Maybe as a teaser, I don't know Her hero skill sounds like Paw Master 2.0 though Agreed, she sounds like Light's Hand and Paw Master had a baby. I wonder how the skill is going to change as you level her up. Obviously the damage you deal to the creature is going to increase, but that can't be the only thing, right? If the creatures effected by her ability, the chance she has to remove them from play, or the rage that she gives herself if the creature survives increases as well, then I think she will definitely be a top tier hero. Easily in the top 3.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 8, 2015 17:31:16 GMT
if the chance to remove and the damage scales well shes going to be really strong.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Dec 8, 2015 17:32:08 GMT
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Post by dreamingdragon on Dec 9, 2015 0:33:51 GMT
It seems like not able to read Chinese really limited what Naruto could say about v8.5 in his video. Let me give some more details about Valhalla and Titan War.
Valhalla: The shard production part is just another gem sink which I suspect how many players are going to use it. The battle part is interesting, it feels like a combination of Gauntlet and Tournament.
Everyday you have a list of creature shards that you could choose to produce. 3 star creature shards (3 to 4 creatures show up, Dark Witch and Border Ranger included in the list) require 15 energy, 4 star creature shards (a lot show up) require 30 gems (24 gems if recommended), 5 star creature shards (only 1 or 2 show up) requires 250 gems (200 gems if recommended). Refreshing the list costs gems. After choosing what you want to produce for up to 3 slots, you setup 3 defence decks. You start with 2 shards in each production slot, you could spend gems to increase production number by 1 for a max of 3 times (5 shards/24 hours), you claim the shards after 24 hour count down finishes.
Then there is this raid part. You can spend 100k gold to look for one opponent and see what shards are in production. If you decide to raid 1 shard, you need to defeat all 3 defence decks in 20 minutes. Heroes and creatures do not recover hp during battle, so like in Gauntlet, you could throw in as many decks as you want and play manually to take down 1 deck. You have 10 attacks per day, it comes down to whether you could defeat someone's 3 best decks with all your heroes and creatures in 10 attacks. Good players might be able to spend 3 attacks to kill 3 decks and steal 1 shard without losing anything (so he can steal 3 shards a day). But I think it would be reasonable to at least steal 1 shard per day if you do not choose a super strong opponent.
It sounds interesting to battle someone and take a 3 star creature shard. But it definitely is not fun to lose 100 gems (a 5 star creature shard) because someone used 10 decks to defeat your 3 decks in 20 minutes. (Of course, there is protection shield you could buy with gems...)
Titan War: It feels like a combination of Guild Battle and Sky Arena. There are 2 factions, you choose 1 side to join the battle. There are 2 scores, let me call them Battle Point and Construction Point. Like Sky Arena, the final awards come from the rankings. Battle Point ranking gives creatures and glory points as rewards. Construction Point ranking gives hero shards and glory points as rewards. There is also awards for reaching certain Battle Point.
For now it is a 5 day event. There are 3 battle fields, each battle field has 3 lanes. Each day you select 1 battle field to join (this could not be changed during the day), in the battle field you can spend Horns to attack or get supplies, you get 5 Horns maybe every 3 hours. If you choose to get supplies, you send out a team to battle against a random (I think it is NPC only) team, and get wood depending on how much you defeated. Turning in wood for construction of towers gives you Construction Point. Tower will add some buff in the lane when completed, and player contributed to the tower will get extra Battle Point when the tower is completed. But you could directly buy wood with gems without even fighting, 65 gems=100 Construction Point which is somewhere close to the result of spending 5 Horns to get supplies!
Battle Point is the main thing for the event. If you choose to attack, you have to choose a lane and send out a team. It will battle a player's team or NPC team every 6 minutes. If your team win, it will continue to fight, the max win streak is 10. If your team loses or reaches 10 win, you can send another team out. Like in Guild Battle, defeated heroes and creatures need like 2 hours to revive.
The Battle Point is calculated individually for each lane in each battle field. All lanes start with 3 troops (chest pieces) on each side on day 1, the blue and red bar shows which faction has more Battle Point today in each lane. At the end of the day, the side that has less Battle Point loses 1 troop in the lane. If any lane loses all 3 troops, that battle field is lost. And I assume if 2 battle fileds are lost, the event is over. Otherwise the event lasts full 5 days.
The whole system is complicated, you have 3 battle fields and 9 lanes to battle, communication is really needed if the whole server wants good awards. And you could only send out a team after the previous team is done! Getting supplies is quick, you instantly get the result, but that is not the main thing. You never knows when to send out the next team if you send a team to attack, 6 minutes per battle and you need to constantly check the result if you really want to play the event. Imagine the following situations: 6 win streak, yay, I probably could have focused on something else in this 40 minutes; What, no win, direct lose, I probably could have sent out the next team 20 minutes ago.
Overall, I feel like for the 2 new features, Valhalla is only good for 3 star creatures (really...), and Titan War is too time consuming if you want good awards. Anyway, the new features are at least pretty interesting.
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Post by ℜ★God on Dec 9, 2015 0:57:40 GMT
Thanks for the information bro!
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