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Post by icezaius on Dec 27, 2015 13:08:37 GMT
Which 5 star hero should I be going for in the ore mall? I'm lvl 87 f2p heaviest on mortii and have overlord right now. My initial thought is Oceanus, but alchemist is intriguing, and spirit arbiter is also an option now. I am a fan of the permanent removal hero skills, but 2 mortii 5 stars might be overkill. I do have a mystic if that factors in for anybody
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Post by icezaius on Dec 27, 2015 13:11:12 GMT
This is such a good thread it bears repeating.....my bad
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Post by •JC•Herby on Dec 27, 2015 15:52:17 GMT
Overall strongest at lvl 1 goes to Oceanus. For F2P he's probally the best one 2 get. Works with most cards.
Armageddon can be powerfull with the right deck and I think this goes for the other heroes aswell.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 9:54:32 GMT
Oceanus no doubt, but retreat QT's are it's main weakness. It is good against decks that rely heavily on advanced creatures.
Armageddon is okay, but high level gameplay would require you to make sure that opponent has a creature at his graveyard. Also weak against retreat creatures. It is good against decks that rely heavily on advanced creatures. . Alchemist has the most potential, since most creatures at high level would have frosties, immunities, Majis, etc. it has some weaknesses but no need to mention. She is good at high level but "meh" at low levels. Pair her with creatures that can proc all defensive skills of enemies. ( I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HER SKILL THO, WHAT IF THE ENEMY HAS MULTIPLE SHIELD DEFENSES? Like Block and FA, would it damage it twice?) Good if you have creatures that can proc opponent's defensive armors.
Blade master is 'meh' but is really good at it's max level. Don't get him if you want to use him immediately. Good at high level. Stick to neander faction to maximize his benefits.
Thor is not that good IMHO, paralyze isn't noteworthy if opponent critters don't rely for physical attacks. There are good thor decks but most are human faction based.
There you go... all you need is choose...
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 13:16:06 GMT
Oceanus, no real reason to pick anything else. Spirit Arbiter looks good, but I think you need it at least to lv 5 before it gets effective. Alchemist looks ok on paper, but I don't see top players using it still.
Basically, go look at the top 50 tournament players, then make your decision based on which hero you see most. There is a reason EVERYONE uses Oceanus, and it's not because they don't have the money to get anything better. It's simply the best hero, and it's unlikely to ever fall out of fashion since it adjusts with the creatures used.
Is retreat QT a weakness? Well, yeah- but it's a weakness for everyone hero, lol. That's like saying a creatures weak to sac8 Pit Dragon/Anathema- what isn't?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 13:29:10 GMT
Oceanus, no real reason to pick anything else. Spirit Arbiter looks good, but I think you need it at least to lv 5 before it gets effective. Alchemist looks ok on paper, but I don't see top players using it still. Basically, go look at the top 50 tournament players, then make your decision based on which hero you see most. There is a reason EVERYONE uses Oceanus, and it's not because they don't have the money to get anything better. It's simply the best hero, and it's unlikely to ever fall out of fashion since it adjusts with the creatures used. Is retreat QT a weakness? Well, yeah- but it's a weakness for everyone hero, lol. That's like saying a creatures weak to sac8 Pit Dragon/Anathema- what isn't? Immunity Creatures can still block the betch. The main reason is that, if your oceanus happen to summon a non-immunity creature, and happens to get retreated, then boom your summon just got busted. But, since QT limits their own creatures effectivity and slots, it opens up for your deck. QT is a weakness for every hero it is more effective against oceanus who rely heavily on it's skill. The good thing about it is if your creatures have immunity - which is counter productive against another oceanus deck. like what i have said, if your opponent uses an advanced creature with which most high level players have, PD with Sac is still retreatable, whilst anaethema isn't. the first having revive is an edge though.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 13:39:49 GMT
Oceanus, no real reason to pick anything else. Spirit Arbiter looks good, but I think you need it at least to lv 5 before it gets effective. Alchemist looks ok on paper, but I don't see top players using it still. Basically, go look at the top 50 tournament players, then make your decision based on which hero you see most. There is a reason EVERYONE uses Oceanus, and it's not because they don't have the money to get anything better. It's simply the best hero, and it's unlikely to ever fall out of fashion since it adjusts with the creatures used. Is retreat QT a weakness? Well, yeah- but it's a weakness for everyone hero, lol. That's like saying a creatures weak to sac8 Pit Dragon/Anathema- what isn't? Immunity Creatures can still block the betch. The main reason is that, if your oceanus happen to summon a non-immunity creature, and happens to get retreated, then boom your summon just got busted. But, since QT limits their own creatures effectivity and slots, it opens up for your deck. QT is a weakness for every hero it is more effective against oceanus who rely heavily on it's skill. The good thing about it is if your creatures have immunity - which is counter productive against another oceanus deck. like what i have said, if your opponent uses an advanced creature with which most high level players have, PD with Sac is still retreatable, whilst anaethema isn't. the first having revive is an edge though. Summoned creatures also have a better chance of blasting those QTs in 1 shot. Trust me, I run Oceanus ALL the time, against retreat QTs ALL the time, and I almost never ever run into an issue where I lose my clones. I think maybe once in all the times I've used it, a QT retreated a cloned Paragon once. It's fairly rare you end up with a clone that doesn't have stoneskin/immunity, and rarer still that the clone gets matched up with a retreat QT. You could see it another way- the chances are higher the retreat QT gets stuck against a cloned Bloodletter/Anathema/Mythril Drone/Dragonlord etc etc, making Oceanus actually stack up better against retreat QT. Other decks also have their 10 cards only, and every one that gets retreated sets their deck setup further back whilst Oceanus can have clones support the field whilst the rest of the cards come out.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 13:48:06 GMT
Immunity Creatures can still block the betch. The main reason is that, if your oceanus happen to summon a non-immunity creature, and happens to get retreated, then boom your summon just got busted. But, since QT limits their own creatures effectivity and slots, it opens up for your deck. QT is a weakness for every hero it is more effective against oceanus who rely heavily on it's skill. The good thing about it is if your creatures have immunity - which is counter productive against another oceanus deck. like what i have said, if your opponent uses an advanced creature with which most high level players have, PD with Sac is still retreatable, whilst anaethema isn't. the first having revive is an edge though. Summoned creatures also have a better chance of blasting those QTs in 1 shot. Trust me, I run Oceanus ALL the time, against retreat QTs ALL the time, and I almost never ever run into an issue where I lose my clones. I think maybe once in all the times I've used it, a QT retreated a cloned Paragon once. It's fairly rare you end up with a clone that doesn't have stoneskin/immunity, and rarer still that the clone gets matched up with a retreat QT. You could see it another way- the chances are higher the retreat QT gets stuck against a cloned Bloodletter/Anathema/Mythril Drone/Dragonlord etc etc, making Oceanus actually stack up better against retreat QT. Other decks also have their 10 cards only, and every one that gets retreated sets their deck setup further back whilst Oceanus can have clones support the field whilst the rest of the cards come out. True, chances of having a retreat QT in front of a summon is low, but a newly summoned qt is another. like, what I have said, high level play does have plenty of immu and one hit critters. Even having multiple QTs at that level is a total waste of slot. Tis a battle of summons. Until IGG finds a way to nerf Oceanus or create a real counter creature, OCeanus will still be the best ore mall Hero.
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Post by bachas on Dec 28, 2015 14:09:17 GMT
Okay,just imgaine you already got Oceanus from booster - what is the 2. Best to go for Alchemist or Spirit Arbiter Let's say, both are Level 5... The to new talents are aviable for both Heroes and seems to be godly counters to Clones. Saving ore since mines appeared and can't make a choice :/ THX !
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Dec 28, 2015 14:16:14 GMT
Okay,just imgaine you already got Oceanus from booster - what is the 2. Best to go for Alchemist or Spirit Arbiter Let's say, both are Level 5... The to new talents are aviable for both Heroes and seems to be godly counters to Clones. Saving ore since mines appeared and can't make a choice :/ THX ! Why'd you remove the others? Well, if these were the two choices I would get a Spirit Arbiter. alchemist. I heard that her skill is perma until the creature dies. that additional damage would totally help. On the other hand, Spirit Arbiter may be a good one at higher level>5. Creature removal will always be a great edge against most decks.
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Post by bachas on Dec 28, 2015 15:02:16 GMT
Okay,just imgaine you already got Oceanus from booster - what is the 2. Best to go for Alchemist or Spirit Arbiter Let's say, both are Level 5... The to new talents are aviable for both Heroes and seems to be godly counters to Clones. Saving ore since mines appeared and can't make a choice :/ THX ! Why'd you remove the others? Well, if these were the two choices I would get a Spirit Arbiter. alchemist. I heard that her skill is perma until the creature dies. that additional damage would totally help. On the other hand, Spirit Arbiter may be a good one at higher level>5. Creature removal will always be a great edge against most decks. Got Armageddon already and He doesn't fit for mehr untill I get a Paragon. And Blade isn't that good imo. Since more and more players get Oceanus I'm looking for an counter. Playing on European Server and Top Players there mainly use Oceanus / Warlock / Judgement at the Moment. But I think Mass Charm and Lucicity could beat those Paragon / Retread QT / Revive Trees Standard Oceanus Decks, at least on paper ... Maybe Dome players here share this idea and maybe someone already has practised it
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Post by aketto on Dec 30, 2015 12:46:43 GMT
I run a Captivator deck right now and since 2 months now I'm 1-3 place in my Arena where 8 players of the top 10 run a Oceanus decks(lvl 3 at least), 3 of them have a Sac8 Cancer and all of the Top 10 players around me have at least 1 melded Revive creature(Tree, Fafnir etc...). I STILL don't have a Revive in my deck, but with 3 Recyclers, Vigor runes and A LOT of healing I should say that it's a good way for counter a pretty good Oceanus decks. P.S. For the topic... Go for Oceanus!(I finished mine today and even without upgrades, he's awesome)
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Dec 30, 2015 13:07:29 GMT
The best counter to Oceanus is Oceanus. Sorry to say. Captivator being a very close second. Every other hero is generally at a decisive disadvantage assuming cards are equal.
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Post by aketto on Dec 30, 2015 23:30:49 GMT
The best counter to Oceanus is Oceanus. Sorry to say. Captivator being a very close second. Every other hero is generally at a decisive disadvantage assuming cards are equal. I don't have so much experience with my own Oceanus(as I said I finished mine today ). But Captivator it's not bad for counter. These 2 are arguably the best 5* heroes at the moment.
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