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Post by ℜ★God on Jan 14, 2016 22:34:22 GMT
I'm all for the nerf even though i have 2 at a low level. It's just a nerf for low level oceanus, at level 7+ he's even better than before. As a f2p who spend all his ore for oceanus a week ago im mad about this. I had 45/100 oceanus and 41/100 armageddon every where armageddon was prono:nce worst and despite i wanted spirrit arbiter i deside to go with him and a week later what the hell im going to use him for?!?! Even 4* heroes would be better for tourney def decks and a few days ago there was hero booster for him What the hell igg is thinking :@ Get Armageddon. I've had incredible success with him. Jumped the the top in my Arena, got to 115 in Trials, started clearing Gauntlet in one go. He's a really solid hero. And since he is one of the oldest heroes (I don't know which, but either Thor or Armageddon was the first 5 star hero) I doubt he'll get hit with a nerf. I can only see him getting nerfed if he becomes as popular as Oceanus was.
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Post by icezaius on Jan 14, 2016 22:38:22 GMT
Agree there. Just so wrong to nerf him IMMEDIATELY after a sale for him. I don't have him, and have just been saving up ore before deciding. Like the nerf however, could they maybe buff my ill advised Overlord now? Also, where is the QT nerf? That's as bad as Oceanus
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Jan 14, 2016 22:49:34 GMT
I'm not really complaining about the Oceanus nerf, been expecting that a long time now, heck I have him and I still use my Wight. My issue is how IGG deceives everyone and then "fixes" things after they basically scam a lot of people.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jan 14, 2016 22:50:10 GMT
Agree there. Just so wrong to nerf him IMMEDIATELY after a sale for him. I don't have him, and have just been saving up ore before deciding. Like the nerf however, could they maybe buff my ill advised Overlord now? Also, where is the QT nerf? That's as bad as Oceanus Meh, I don't think Retreat QT is nearly as bad as Oceanus.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 14, 2016 22:51:26 GMT
I'm all for the nerf even though i have 2 at a low level. It's just a nerf for low level oceanus, at level 7+ he's even better than before. As a f2p who spend all his ore for oceanus a week ago im mad about this. I had 45/100 oceanus and 41/100 armageddon every where armageddon was prono:nce worst and despite i wanted spirrit arbiter i deside to go with him and a week later what the hell im going to use him for?!?! Even 4* heroes would be better for tourney def decks and a few days ago there was hero booster for him What the hell igg is thinking :@ Just like any other hero, you are now having to keep getting his shards until lv 7+, that's all dude. You didn't make some huge mistake or anything, you just have to treat it like you would have if you did get arbiter or Armageddon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 22:53:57 GMT
Wow..i just obtained a Wight and levelled his skills a few days ago only for guild maps.unbelievable..no one knows what will the next update bring for us. today most players are reconsidering to obtain buffed spirit arbiter in place of oceanus, but its not so hard to say another new one will be buffed a few months later and SA owners will regret obtaining her, like they do now. Shitty things will not end till minds change, and it seems that will never ever change...
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Post by ℜ★God on Jan 14, 2016 22:57:16 GMT
I'm not really complaining about the Oceanus nerf, been expecting that a long time now, heck I have him and I still use my Wight. My issue is how IGG deceives everyone and then "fixes" things after they basically scam a lot of people. Yeah, it is wrong for IGG to do that; however, I don't understand how they manage to scam so many people. Oceanus was a blatantly overpowered hero, and he was bound to get nerfed into the ground at some point, yet people still bought into him. Very poor decision on their part.
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Post by vagou on Jan 14, 2016 23:14:57 GMT
Oceanus is still powerful - the point of copying a creature is to steal the abilities, not so much the stats. Now the scabilitiy is on part with other heroes instead of being OP at lvl 1, so no need to s*** on him as if he's useless.
Can someone confirm Mantra being cast on all rounds in GM?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 23:19:30 GMT
Oceanus is still powerful - the point of copying a creature is to steal the abilities, not so much the stats. Now the scabilitiy is on part with other heroes instead of being OP at lvl 1, so no need to s*** on him as if he's useless. Can someone confirm Mantra being cast on all rounds in GM? Agree about oceanus, mad for their timing,purpose,scamming ppl. Mantra issue is worser than oceanus issue if it is true.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 14, 2016 23:25:31 GMT
Oceanus is still powerful - the point of copying a creature is to steal the abilities, not so much the stats. Now the scabilitiy is on part with other heroes instead of being OP at lvl 1, so no need to s*** on him as if he's useless. Can someone confirm Mantra being cast on all rounds in GM? That's it right there! No point in shitting on it like its useless. That's what so many players do here. If its not the right OP card, its shitty and useless. If its not the "correct" godly meld, its horrible. Pepe act like Oceanus is now worse than Stormkallar. Okay, I'll be less dramatic...worse than bowmaster. Grow up guys. Your precious hero isn't godly at lv 1 anymore... Boo hoo, neither was my warlock. Know what I did? I leveled him up to make him godly. Yak yak yak. Oceanus is one of the best heroes. You need to get him to level 7. Judgement is one of the best heroes, you need level 5. We can go on and on and I think most people would agree that I am fairly accurate in this.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jan 14, 2016 23:35:15 GMT
Oceanus is still powerful - the point of copying a creature is to steal the abilities, not so much the stats. Now the scabilitiy is on part with other heroes instead of being OP at lvl 1, so no need to s*** on him as if he's useless. Can someone confirm Mantra being cast on all rounds in GM? That's it right there! No point in shitting on it like its useless. That's what so many players do here. If its not the right OP card, its shitty and useless. If its not the "correct" godly meld, its horrible. Pepe act like Oceanus is now worse than Stormkallar. Okay, I'll be less dramatic...worse than bowmaster. Grow up guys. Your precious hero isn't godly at lv 1 anymore... Boo hoo, neither was my warlock. Know what I did? I leveled him up to make him godly. Yak yak yak. Oceanus is one of the best heroes. You need to get him to level 7. Judgement is one of the best heroes, you need level 5. We can go on and on and I think most people would agree that I am fairly accurate in this. Well, generally people consider "top tier" heroes to be the ones who are good right out of the box, as soon as you get him. Pre-patch Oceanus definitely fit this description. Post-patch Oceanus is only a mid tier now, since he requires quite a bit of leveling before he can even become viable, which is why people are upset. I don't see why they don't just move on to Armageddon, Captivator, or Judgement (and maybe Alchemist. I'm not too sure how good she is right when you get her; however, she just got buffed, so maybe she's really good now), since all three of them are pretty godly as soon as you get them.
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Post by tanisomsford on Jan 15, 2016 0:46:33 GMT
That's it right there! No point in shitting on it like its useless. That's what so many players do here. If its not the right OP card, its shitty and useless. If its not the "correct" godly meld, its horrible. Pepe act like Oceanus is now worse than Stormkallar. Okay, I'll be less dramatic...worse than bowmaster. Grow up guys. Your precious hero isn't godly at lv 1 anymore... Boo hoo, neither was my warlock. Know what I did? I leveled him up to make him godly. Yak yak yak. Oceanus is one of the best heroes. You need to get him to level 7. Judgement is one of the best heroes, you need level 5. We can go on and on and I think most people would agree that I am fairly accurate in this. Well, generally people consider "top tier" heroes to be the ones who are good right out of the box, as soon as you get him. Pre-patch Oceanus definitely fit this description. Post-patch Oceanus is only a mid tier now, since he requires quite a bit of leveling before he can even become viable, which is why people are upset. I don't see why they don't just move on to Armageddon, Captivator, or Judgement (and maybe Alchemist. I'm not too sure how good she is right when you get her; however, she just got buffed, so maybe she's really good now), since all three of them are pretty godly as soon as you get them. Woah woah dude. Are you suggesting that lv1 judgement and captivator are godly cards out of the gate? That's not been my experience. Personally, I'd take either of those two opponents over a lv 8 or 9 wight any day. Although, of course, if I am facing a cookie cutter deck with melded 5*s from a top 50 player, then the hero is moot. You can lick and stick any hero in that crowd, it doesn't matter.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jan 15, 2016 1:45:48 GMT
Apparently now Mantra actives every turn. (V9.0) And there goes the death curse.... So how are we going to kill snow harlot? Considering the cash IGG makes one would at least expect A little bit of thinking .... I never read what you wrote... Never heard what you said... Now I am gonna close my eyes.. Sleep.. And watch sweet dreams... *sitting in a corner, crying, laughing, rocking body in depression*
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 15, 2016 2:24:32 GMT
Bottom line...get all 5*... Who knows maybe one day Overlord will be supwr BUFFED...* sarcastic*
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jan 15, 2016 2:47:42 GMT
Oceanus: Stat % of cloned creature decreased, the % increase per skill level increased, and added Immunity skill according to skill level to cloned creature This sound like a nerf to low lvl Oceanus while higher lvl will get buffed. f2p/low spender getting fked up again ? Yup. high level oceanus owners be rofl'ing after this. I am getting frustrated to face players with 2 Oceanus... ( I am thinking of 2 captivator to counter it)... Comes this nerfed ... Will be good in general eventhoug I have low level oceanus... Just may impact trials higher levels if the clones is so much weaker... It helped people to consolidate into 1 great hero... Adding diversity instead of " oh great its another oceanus" opponent.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jan 15, 2016 7:41:00 GMT
Well, generally people consider "top tier" heroes to be the ones who are good right out of the box, as soon as you get him. Pre-patch Oceanus definitely fit this description. Post-patch Oceanus is only a mid tier now, since he requires quite a bit of leveling before he can even become viable, which is why people are upset. I don't see why they don't just move on to Armageddon, Captivator, or Judgement (and maybe Alchemist. I'm not too sure how good she is right when you get her; however, she just got buffed, so maybe she's really good now), since all three of them are pretty godly as soon as you get them. Woah woah dude. Are you suggesting that lv1 judgement and captivator are godly cards out of the gate? That's not been my experience. Personally, I'd take either of those two opponents over a lv 8 or 9 wight any day. Although, of course, if I am facing a cookie cutter deck with melded 5*s from a top 50 player, then the hero is moot. You can lick and stick any hero in that crowd, it doesn't matter. Well, they're certainly more godly than most other 5 star heroes at level 1. I can't tell you too much from personal experience because normally when I run into a Royal or WK member using a Captivator, Oceanus, Judgement, or whatever I beat them first or MAYBE second try, depending on how good they are (not trying to be a condescending a**hole or anything).
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Post by vagou on Jan 15, 2016 8:49:37 GMT
Sorry I must have missed it even though I read all the thread.. anything happened to Queen Temptress?
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 9:32:10 GMT
Woah woah dude. Are you suggesting that lv1 judgement and captivator are godly cards out of the gate? That's not been my experience. Personally, I'd take either of those two opponents over a lv 8 or 9 wight any day. Although, of course, if I am facing a cookie cutter deck with melded 5*s from a top 50 player, then the hero is moot. You can lick and stick any hero in that crowd, it doesn't matter. Well, they're certainly more godly than most other 5 star heroes at level 1. I can't tell you too much from personal experience because normally when I run into a Royal or WK member using a Captivator, Oceanus, Judgement, or whatever I beat them first or MAYBE second try, depending on how good they are (not trying to be a condescending a**hole or anything). No, you're dead right. Certain heros scale far faster or slower than others. Oceanus, Judgment and Captivator are very good at lv 1, and they scale quite slowly- since the nature of their skill works well at lv 1. If your Oceanus clones are 150% strength or 200% strength, there's not that much difference (a total of 33%, in fact). Judgment lv 1 to lv 5 is a big increase on paper- but the reality is, 200HP per hit is normally enough to heal every creature to max- and if it isn't, 400HP per hit would have been unlikely to change it, you probably went against the wrong deck. Captivator's main sell is a guaranteed lockdown of every creature, and that works as well on lv 1 as it does on lv 10. Obviously it gets better, but not THAT much better. The other heros all either scale much faster, or are simply crap whether they're high level or not. Warlock is very good at lv 1, but also scales incredibly well up to lv 6/7 or so- much above that and he actually doesn't get much better thanks to the healing cap. Interesting to see how the changes affect Oceanus, I think he was definitely OP at lv 1, and I'm all for him becoming a little stronger with levelling.
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Post by bluefire on Jan 15, 2016 9:48:54 GMT
Apparently now Mantra actives every turn. (V9.0) And there goes the death curse.... So how are we going to kill snow harlot? Considering the cash IGG makes one would at least expect A little bit of thinking .... I never read what you wrote... Never heard what you said... Now I am gonna close my eyes.. Sleep.. And watch sweet dreams... *sitting in a corner, crying, laughing, rocking body in depression* Yeah, so do I. I can confirm now, Mantra activates every turn.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 9:51:32 GMT
I'm actually interested to see how many people are for the Oceanus nerf, and how many are against it. Even if you're mad about him getting nerfed, it's still hard to argue that he wasn't overpowered as hell. I have no problem with the nerf, it's been coming. But it SHOULD have come a f***ing long time ago, and it certainly shouldn't have been announced less than a week after they offered a promo selling Oceanus. I'm very strongly considering attempting to get all gems I ever purchased on this game refunded, because seriously- f*** these guys. They are actual con-artists, I'm serious. Freemium games follow a theme of trying to separate you from your money, and this probably isn't the worst out there- but they are still outright stealing with half the b***s*** they pull. Not sure I want to continue with this game now, the updates have been getting more and more obviously geared at thievery. /*derpy, please try to keep your calm no point in getting upset over a game*/
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Post by drakkan on Jan 15, 2016 10:01:42 GMT
I never read what you wrote... Never heard what you said... Now I am gonna close my eyes.. Sleep.. And watch sweet dreams... *sitting in a corner, crying, laughing, rocking body in depression* Yeah, so do I. I can confirm now, Mantra activates every turn. How.did you confirm that? From TW server?
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 10:03:46 GMT
I agree that oceanus was strong but it was so hard to get him. For me personally giving away oceanus to all and Sucking gems and money from people and later nerf it is very very low and this game starting be very shity. Because it staring to be like previous game I played. Money money... Give to people carrot people will spend a lot to have it and baaammm nerf it. They should never add oceanus to grimore. If they added, nerf should be done on that moment. They are starting much more doing milk cow from players. Suck money with shity moves than if all are sucked properly balance it I hope they stop if not game will die slowly. From other side if game is more popular they totally don't care if they lose 10% of players if they can Suck more from others by shity moves. Everybody can have own opinion.. But from some time I think that this game going to wrong direction.
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Post by joysticktns on Jan 15, 2016 10:07:02 GMT
I'm actually interested to see how many people are for the Oceanus nerf, and how many are against it. Even if you're mad about him getting nerfed, it's still hard to argue that he wasn't overpowered as hell. I have no problem with the nerf, it's been coming. But it SHOULD have come a fucking long time ago, and it certainly shouldn't have been announced less than a week after they offered a promo selling Oceanus. I'm very strongly considering attempting to get all gems I ever purchased on this game refunded, because seriously- f*** these guys. They are actual con-artists, I'm serious. Freemium games follow a theme of trying to separate you from your money, and this probably isn't the worst out there- but they are still outright stealing with half the b***s*** they pull. Not sure I want to continue with this game now, the updates have been getting more and more obviously geared at thievery. Is there a way to get a refund?! Last updates are thievery melded with drug dealing.
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Post by bluefire on Jan 15, 2016 10:08:19 GMT
Yeah, so do I. I can confirm now, Mantra activates every turn. How.did you confirm that? From TW server? Got Accepted in a Guild (TW server) and started a guild map fight. Even in the first round when nobody could have played a creature - Mantra actives. More details?
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Post by ℜ★Naruto on Jan 15, 2016 11:29:03 GMT
How.did you confirm that? From TW server? Got Accepted in a Guild (TW server) and started a guild map fight. Even in the first round when nobody could have played a creature - Mantra actives. More details? Good luck killing the snow harlot people
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jan 15, 2016 12:05:25 GMT
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 12:23:09 GMT
So wait, how does Zora work again? This could actually be kind of fun to figure out again. yeah the zora and berserker ways could do the trick. I need to redo my deck.
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Post by Lastpak✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 12:41:07 GMT
DH reation to people complaining about 9.0.0 patch: "Every adjustment is not a easy decision. What is the same behind is the mind that we wanna to make the game better. Forgive us if we are not make the Perfect and we will keep trying as Always."
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jan 15, 2016 12:49:17 GMT
DH reation to people complaining about 9.0.0 patch: "Every adjustment is not a easy decision. What is the same behind is the mind that we wanna to make the game better. Forgive us if we are not make the Perfect and we will keep trying as Always." what. I was the one who posted that.
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Post by jeno76 on Jan 15, 2016 12:55:41 GMT
I think if they change a high value card like a 5 star hero, which either costs you lots of time and resource or real money to get it, they need to compensate those who has it in the time of the update, or offer them a refund option.
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