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Post by Hannibal on Feb 8, 2016 13:10:59 GMT
It's quite awesome to have come so far without a paragon, but now I'm stuck. 14-5 has way too many recycle/revive ressurect for my taste. Is there anyone who has expierenced the same, and who can maybe give some advice? crits/skills/heroes?
I don't have 5* heroes yet. I usually use my wight of berserker both lvl 7 And I have a devil hunter lvl 7 my other 4* heroes are lower lvls and haven't really put much effort in them.
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Post by ninjafred on Feb 8, 2016 13:57:20 GMT
You should try with a good curse deck. A bunch of techno chief - rangers - graboids melded stabthrough will do the trick.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 8, 2016 14:23:51 GMT
You should try with a good curse deck. A bunch of techno chief - rangers - graboids melded stabthrough will do the trick. Thanks, I've tried that a couple of times allready, but I don't have enough stabtrhrough yet. Should make a bit more, I usually just don't do those melds but I know they're good, I just don't enjoy those crits as much haha xp will try again when I have at least one more stab crit (:
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Post by •JC•Herby on Feb 8, 2016 16:42:16 GMT
Stop crying and try some more.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 8, 2016 16:45:49 GMT
Stop crying and try some more. Thanks ♡♡
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 18:15:10 GMT
Overlord and lots of luck
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 8, 2016 18:26:22 GMT
Overlord and lots of luck Don't have him, but I just might try it with Balrog, who knows, might just work. (: thanks
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Post by yangderui on Feb 14, 2016 13:59:47 GMT
I beat 14-5 without Paragon using Predator(but Devil Hunter also does the trick), and having massive amounts of luck. If you happen to have 3 disposals you can use them, but I only have 2 The way I beat it is by using 3 FA Centaur Chiefs, 2 Disposals with recyclers and tanks on the side. You just have to wait for a good draw in which you can kill off Abaddon early and dispose the rest. Seeing how you oneshot most of the creatures with Centaur Chief it just requires a bit of luck for the enemy not to recycle his recyclers xD An important note is that you absolutely have to dispose the Easter Bunny, otherwise he will get a free recycle which can end up ruining it.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 14, 2016 19:59:24 GMT
I beat 14-5 without Paragon using Predator(but Devil Hunter also does the trick), and having massive amounts of luck. If you happen to have 3 disposals you can use them, but I only have 2 The way I beat it is by using 3 FA Centaur Chiefs, 2 Disposals with recyclers and tanks on the side. You just have to wait for a good draw in which you can kill off Abaddon early and dispose the rest. Seeing how you oneshot most of the creatures with Centaur Chief it just requires a bit of luck for the enemy not to recycle his recyclers xD An important note is that you absolutely have to dispose the Easter Bunny, otherwise he will get a free recycle which can end up ruining it. Allright, will try this then, thanks! Hope to beat this stage soon. I do have 3 gorgons so hopefully that should do it, but never took the time to meld a centaur chief, might need to put some time in that first haha, dunno why never found it a fun meld to do, but against neander he's usually a beast with FA.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 21, 2016 17:03:58 GMT
Beat it! With hero kill deck, didn't have enough stab and was busy melding a few more border rangers, but then got an easter bunny and her (s)mass charm made the differnce.
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Post by yangderui on Feb 21, 2016 18:46:46 GMT
Then your only real challenge left will be 14-7 with Immunity 10 Dahlia. The other levels are incredibly easy compared to 14-5 and 14-7. I remember after beating 14-7 it took about 10 attempts to finish the rest of the map. Pretty disappointing actually xD
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 21, 2016 18:50:29 GMT
Yeah I heard 14-7 is a pain. I'm currently still a 14-6, haven't tried yet, but I'm curious to see how long it wil take me to finish entire map 14. Hopefully it will go as smoothly as it went for u, would like that maze (and ofc the gemzz)
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Post by yangderui on Feb 21, 2016 18:58:54 GMT
Well I don't really do mazes anymore but the gems are great It is also not that hard to obtain the coupon reward, as a lot of levels just require you to finish in fewer turns. Assuming you have a 5-star hero by now (or will have one soon), the length does not really matter when you use the War Hungry/Berserk strategy. Even without a 5-star hero 14-8, 14-9 and 14-10 are easy, but for 14-11 and 14-12 you can pretty much only win by using a 5-star hero. I personally beat 14-7 by Dispose-Cloning Snow Harlot and outsustaining the enemy, but if you don't have Armageddon this won't be of much help to you.
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Post by yangderui on Feb 21, 2016 19:00:40 GMT
Also, it is good to see that someone else has managed to get this far without using Paragon; it is so frustrating to watch other battle reports and see that literally everyone has one
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 22, 2016 8:28:57 GMT
Me neither though, but would be cool to open it. I dont have my 5* hero yet haha I'm a bit slow on that subject , but I'm a few shards away from spirit arbiter who's probably not going to be a big help at her lower lvls. But I hope I can manage without at first. My bf made it without a 5* hero but he did have a paragon which makes everything so much easier..
And right, watching those battle reports to maybe learn a thing or two are kinda hopeless since everyone has one hahah.
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Post by yangderui on Feb 22, 2016 10:29:25 GMT
Even without a 5-star hero, 14-6 is pretty beatable if you have 3 Disposals and a bit of luck. 14-7 however is going to be a major pain, even with Spirit Arbiter. Maybe if you have a killer deck you can do it, but I would be really surprised if you did
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Post by radeczq on Feb 22, 2016 22:32:34 GMT
Well I don't really do mazes anymore but the gems are great It is also not that hard to obtain the coupon reward, as a lot of levels just require you to finish in fewer turns. Assuming you have a 5-star hero by now (or will have one soon), the length does not really matter when you use the War Hungry/Berserk strategy. Even without a 5-star hero 14-8, 14-9 and 14-10 are easy, but for 14-11 and 14-12 you can pretty much only win by using a 5-star hero. I personally beat 14-7 by Dispose-Cloning Snow Harlot and outsustaining the enemy, but if you don't have Armageddon this won't be of much help to you. Tell me how to 14-8 Oceanus doesnt work, hero killer nope, war hungry/bers +judge nope, spiky bits no The only way i see is using arma
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Post by yangderui on Feb 23, 2016 1:01:47 GMT
14-8 basically only has 3 cards that you have to get rid of: Snow Harlot, Quetzalcoatl and Kitsune. Naturally, Kumiho and Kitsune revive each other so you will have to take care with that. Fortunately, all three of the recyclers can be disposed of. Assuming that everyone who managed to get this far has multiple Disposals (even though I only have 2), you should be able to Dispose Snow Harlot and Quetzalcoatl. After this it is a matter of killing the sisters simultaneously and hoping that Kumiho does not come back.
If you have a Paragon the entire recycle problem should not be very hard to deal with, but looking at your comment I assume you don't have one either.
I think the best strategy would be to use a couple of hard hitters to clear the board as fast as possible. As always, a good draw is necessary to beat a difficult deck. The best situation would be when Kitsune comes with the first hand so that you can kill it in the first turn. Having Kumiho too would be perfect but is not necessary I think. After this you want to keep your Disposal cards (preferably with 4-turn waiting time) in your hand for Snow Harlot and Quetzalcoatl, while using your other cards to get as many cards in their graveyard. This means that when the sisters get back into play, the chance of Kitsune reviving another recycler becomes smaller.
The best way to clear the board is by using FA Centaur Chiefs: There is only 1 creature with FA, which means that you can pretty much oneshot all the other ones. I used 3 of them in my deck, along with a Battleblow Graboid and a Sacrifice Graboid. You can then use some recyclers, 2 disposals, and a healer for the Centaur Chiefs. The perfect situation would be when you have something like Centaur Chief - Graboid - Centaur Chief - Graboid - Centaur Chief - Healer - Healer. This means that any card that comes into play will automatically get killed. You could consider using Recycle Horned Beast as a healer, or FA Oracle if you have recycle on different cards.
Naturally, it all comes down to how much luck you have with draws and rebirths. If Snow Harlot comes in the first draw you are pretty done, and if the sisters come first you have a really high chance of winning. You can also do the Dispose strategy in a different order, For instance by Killing Quetzalcoatl (and hoping for him to stay dead) and using Disposal on Kitsune and Snow Harlot. However, with this strategy I think it should be possible even without Armageddon/Overlord/Paragon.
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2 Disposals for Quetzalcoatl & Snow Harlot Hope for Kitsune in first draw Use FA Centaur Chief + other hard hitters to clear the board, decreasing the chance of Quetzalcoatl/Snow Harlot being revived Use 1 or 2 healers to sustain Centaur Chief Recycle is awesome Hero is not important, recommend Oceanus for general powerspike or Judgement for sustain
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Post by yangderui on Feb 23, 2016 1:03:25 GMT
Sorry for the long post, it is one of the last levels for a reason xD Though I really think 14-7 is a lot harder because of Undying/Immunity 10 Dahlia
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Post by radeczq on Feb 23, 2016 11:45:09 GMT
Jesus made it in first try with this : Was so fucking lucky ?
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Post by radeczq on Feb 23, 2016 11:45:50 GMT
Nearly all auto, just putting qt against kumiho on start
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Post by yangderui on Feb 23, 2016 21:29:59 GMT
Congratulations man! After this 14-9 and 14-10 shouldn't give you a very hard time, and 14-11 is just a matter of gettting a good draw for your War Hungry/Berserk combo. That means you are really close to obtaining Lord Bones
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Post by radeczq on Feb 24, 2016 8:45:02 GMT
Lord Bones=s*** ^^ Passed 14-11 in first try
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 8:54:07 GMT
14-11 is just ridiculous compared to 14-7. Although the deck itself is really strong, that does not really matter with War Hungry-Berserk. Kind of a shame I think. 14-12 is about the same as 14-11, but with a Revive Lucky Sage instead of Cancer. Sucks for me because I don't have paragon, but you should be able to beat it pretty easily
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Post by tchex on Feb 27, 2016 21:04:16 GMT
I beat this map the last day before the Oceanus nerf just by using frost armour oracles - his own creature clones will win it for you eventually.
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Post by Hannibal on Feb 29, 2016 19:40:44 GMT
Awesome! Just beat 14-7 after trying a lot today with the same deck over and over convinced that it should be possible.
Deck SA lvl 2 with protection 6, cull 8 and firestorm 9 3 Gorgons Spirit Siren - revive Hippolyta Twins - sacrifice Panther Chief - frost armor 5 Bloodletter - warlust 8 Horned Beast - recycle 1 FA1 Mythrill Drone
Little proud of me.
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Post by yangderui on Mar 1, 2016 7:53:12 GMT
Awesome! the rest should be pretty easy, assuming they are fixing the Kitsune bug right now
Also, how would you rate Warlust Bloodletter I have FA Bloodletter but I am thinking of making a second one as I have some copies left
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 1, 2016 8:07:29 GMT
Awesome! the rest should be pretty easy, assuming they are fixing the Kitsune bug right now Also, how would you rate Warlust Bloodletter I have FA Bloodletter but I am thinking of making a second one as I have some copies left Hmm don't like her that much. I think fa would def be better. I only melded warlust cause I wantes to use her in gm. But her base attackt isn't that high and tit for tat is a s*** skill. The reason I put her in my deck for this lvl was her stoneskin and warlust amd eventually tit for that was kinda usefull. But still.. don't really like the card. The only other use she has is in tourny deck. She dies too easily without fa, and her life sap is too weak.
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Post by yangderui on Mar 1, 2016 8:10:59 GMT
Then I will consider something else.
Maybe I will meld something stupid like Mass Heal and use it in my Raid Deck. Then everyone will wonder why I did it and assume it is good because they are much less experienced
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Post by Hannibal on Mar 1, 2016 8:51:04 GMT
Then I will consider something else. Maybe I will meld something stupid like Mass Heal and use it in my Raid Deck. Then everyone will wonder why I did it and assume it is good because they are much less experienced Hahah yeah you could do that, if you don't plan on using her for something special it really doesn't matter. I just wouldn't advise warlust since it also has 10% exp per meld, which is way too little exp for a meld not really worth it. Just another fa is always save and nice for gb.
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