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Post by drakkan on Feb 17, 2016 9:33:51 GMT
Spirit arbiter question:... In tourney I fought with... At level < 5 the description says attack 1 critter... Then I saw in the top 10 tourney level 7 say attack on 2 critter... Level 10 is?? Attack on 3 ? lvl9 attack on 2 (75% + 1250, 70% chance to remove) lvl10 attack on 3 ( 65% + 1000, 60% to remove)
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 17, 2016 9:34:57 GMT
Spirit arbiter question:... In tourney I fought with... At level < 5 the description says attack 1 critter... Then I saw in the top 10 tourney level 7 say attack on 2 critter... Level 10 is?? Attack on 3 ? Yeah i think its on 3 at lvl 10
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Post by bachas on Feb 17, 2016 10:06:15 GMT
It's like that:
L1: 50% + 500 to 1. 45% chance to remove. 20 Rage on fail. L2: 55% + 650 to 1. 50% chance to remove. 25 Rage on fail. L3: 60% + 800 to 1. 55% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail. L4: 65% + 950 to 1. 60% chance to remove. 35 Rage on fail. L5: 55% + 650 to 2. 50% chance to remove. 20 Rage on fail. L6: 60% + 800 to 2. 55% chance to remove. 25 Rage on fail. L7: 65% + 950 to 2. 60% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail. L8: 70% + 1100 to 2. 65% chance to remove. 35 Rage on fail. L9: 75% + 1250 to 2. 70% chance to remove. 40 Rage on fail. L10: 65% + 1000 to 3. 60% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail.
(taken from deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/3847/spirit-arbiter-worth?page=6)
So, L5+ she becomes a Monster ....
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 17, 2016 10:31:43 GMT
It's like that:
L1: 50% + 500 to 1. 45% chance to remove. 20 Rage on fail. L2: 55% + 650 to 1. 50% chance to remove. 25 Rage on fail. L3: 60% + 800 to 1. 55% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail. L4: 65% + 950 to 1. 60% chance to remove. 35 Rage on fail. L5: 55% + 650 to 2. 50% chance to remove. 20 Rage on fail. L6: 60% + 800 to 2. 55% chance to remove. 25 Rage on fail. L7: 65% + 950 to 2. 60% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail. L8: 70% + 1100 to 2. 65% chance to remove. 35 Rage on fail. L9: 75% + 1250 to 2. 70% chance to remove. 40 Rage on fail. L10: 65% + 1000 to 3. 60% chance to remove. 30 Rage on fail.
(taken from deckheroes.freeforums.net/thread/3847/spirit-arbiter-worth?page=6)
So, L5+ she becomes a Monster ....
the best part is the retaining of rage despite not instant killing
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 17, 2016 16:05:32 GMT
She attacks 1 creature from level 1 through 4. At level 5 she starts hitting 2, and at level 10 she hits 3. So ideally you'll want to get her to at least level 5 before you throw her in your Tourney decks. ^~^
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 17, 2016 16:52:59 GMT
She attacks 1 creature from level 1 through 4. At level 5 she starts hitting 2, and at level 10 she hits 3. So ideally you'll want to get her to at least level 5 before you throw her in your Tourney decks. ^~^ Thats why i value more Oceanus and Blademaster lvl 5 then Arbiter lvl 5
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 17, 2016 17:15:11 GMT
She attacks 1 creature from level 1 through 4. At level 5 she starts hitting 2, and at level 10 she hits 3. So ideally you'll want to get her to at least level 5 before you throw her in your Tourney decks. ^~^ Thats why i value more Oceanus and Blademaster lvl 5 then Arbiter lvl 5 I'd argue that Arbiter level 5 is better than Oceanus level 5.
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Post by Absoul on Feb 17, 2016 23:43:34 GMT
SA at level 5 is definitely better than a level 5 Oceanus. And i don't think she's that bad at level 1 either.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 18, 2016 3:05:07 GMT
SA at level 5 is definitely better than a level 5 Oceanus. And i don't think she's that bad at level 1 either. retaining that rage part is big...
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 18, 2016 4:02:52 GMT
I wish someone would upload a battlelog of her in action to YouTube. I'm really interested to see just how well she performs when she is in a good deck (I've fought against one before, but the deck that she was in was.... sub par, to say the least).
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Post by bachas on Feb 18, 2016 6:09:19 GMT
I wish someone would upload a battlelog of her in action to YouTube. I'm really interested to see just how well she performs when she is in a good deck (I've fought against one before, but the deck that she was in was.... sub par, to say the least). Would like to see that to, pretty interesting ...
What deck would you like to see her in ? Can't think at any very Special Cards needed. "Classic" Decks like "Revive/Revive/Recylce/Recyle/Sac/Paragon/Drone/RQT/+XX" should fit her well...
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 18, 2016 6:54:41 GMT
I wish someone would upload a battlelog of her in action to YouTube. I'm really interested to see just how well she performs when she is in a good deck (I've fought against one before, but the deck that she was in was.... sub par, to say the least). Would like to see that to, pretty interesting ...
What deck would you like to see her in ? Can't think at any very Special Cards needed. "Classic" Decks like "Revive/Revive/Recylce/Recyle/Sac/Paragon/Drone/RQT/+XX" should fit her well...
I've had a really aggressive deck in mind for her (she'd work best with aggro decks, since the the creatures would be able to damage the enemy creatures as much as possible, allowing the Arbiter to almost always one shot something with her skill). - Queen Temptress w/ Retreat
- Queen Temptress w/ Retreat
- Sea Wizard w/ Immunity 9
- Ridge Hunter w/ Immunity 9
- Killer Queen w/ Immunity 9
- Anathema w/ Sacrifice 8
- Horned Beast w/ Recycle 2
- Pontiff w/ Revive
- Paragon (unmelded to conserve Cost, because Cost is a b*tch)
Something like that. Pretty standard, but I believe it'd work very well with Spirit Arbiter. Of course, I made it F2P friendly, because I'm a F2P player myself. Whales would probably have rarer cards that work even more efficiently, like Revive Dragonlord instead of Revive Pontiff. The only thing that a F2P player would have trouble getting is the Great Mystic for her Revive. Unfortunately, I still haven't gotten one, even at level 88 EDIT: After looking at the deck for a minute, I'm starting to question whether or not Paragon is even needed in that deck. I mean, Arbiter removes creatures from play straight from the field, without needing them to be in the graveyard, like Armageddon. If I was to replace her, it'd probably be with another Bullseye creature. Maybe a Sacrifice 8 Pit Dragon, Immunity 7 Valkyrie, or Bloodrage 8 Michael.
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Post by bachas on Feb 18, 2016 7:16:09 GMT
Hmmm, with a SA Lvl 5+ i would rather try a defensiv deck an let the almighty Arbiter sort em out
2x RQT seems to be key (what which deck didn't what them ?). Would keep Paragon in deck for the reason of board control.
Deck solution :
Fafnir (Revive) 2xHB (Recyle) Paragon (high runed) Oracle IM9 (Bless 10) Oracle FA/IM7 (Bless 10) 2x RQT Drone (or not, if u want to eat the mass Magic damage for getting the rage) Anathema/PD (Sac) ...
Just try to have enough Stone Skin / Im, to prevent enemy's RQT from stealing your rage. Then SA shoult send the Opponent to the Netherworld step by step
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Post by nebiros✪NFS on Feb 18, 2016 12:35:40 GMT
Alchemist should have been included in this list also, I am one of the very few people who actually like her more than Spirit Arbiter for the sole reason that she silently kills enemy creatures without triggering enemy hero, a very ninja hero. It does take time to make a deck for her though. Unlike SA you can even use level 1-2 Alchemist. Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Feb 18, 2016 12:42:06 GMT
Alchemist should have been included in this list also, I am one of the very few people who actually like her more than Spirit Arbiter for the sole reason that she silently kills enemy creatures without triggering enemy hero, a very ninja hero. It does take time to make a deck for her though. Unlike SA you can even use level 1-2 Alchemist. Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves Problem with Alchemist is that shards for her are only available in ore mall and via purchase rewards (if im not wrong) so for people like me who dont have money to spend on buying gems or staff what can provide her shards it takes forever to collect them all,not to mention upgrading her... But as Hero shes pretty good to have and also strong with right deck compose ofc.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Feb 18, 2016 13:42:13 GMT
Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves Problem with Alchemist is that shards for her are only available in ore mall and via purchase rewards (if im not wrong) so for people like me who dont have money to spend on buying gems or staff what can provide her shards it takes forever to collect them all,not to mention upgrading her... But as Hero shes pretty good to have and also strong with right deck compose ofc. Spirit Arbiter is also ore only as far as I know.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Feb 18, 2016 13:49:33 GMT
Alchemist should have been included in this list also, I am one of the very few people who actually like her more than Spirit Arbiter for the sole reason that she silently kills enemy creatures without triggering enemy hero, a very ninja hero. It does take time to make a deck for her though. Unlike SA you can even use level 1-2 Alchemist. Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves It will take time to make a deck for her but I like her more than SA. I have seen both in action and the way Alchemist neutralized my Warlock i was impressed, no other hero restrains my main hero like that, he could remove melt armor but Alchemist just wouldn't let him. Although I do feel like I am underestimating Arbiter's rage regain but as long she kills random creatures I am not too bothered, but I know I won't be laughing when she kills my recyclers.
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 18, 2016 14:11:31 GMT
Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves Problem with Alchemist is that shards for her are only available in ore mall and via purchase rewards (if im not wrong) so for people like me who dont have money to spend on buying gems or staff what can provide her shards it takes forever to collect them all,not to mention upgrading her... But as Hero shes pretty good to have and also strong with right deck compose ofc. It doesn't take that long. I have 58 Spirit Arbiter shards after only a month of farming (the P2W whales are laughing right now), so I'll finish her in around 4 weeks. Getting her to level 5 takes another 100 shards, which would only take another 2 months, if I farmed those other 100 shards at the same rate that I am farming the first 100 at. 4 months to get a 5 star hero, and to get it to level 5, is actually pretty quick, in comparison to getting and leveling a Tourney hero. Well, that's quick for a F2P player, anyways. 4 months is probably ages to someone who is P2W.
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Post by butte on Feb 18, 2016 14:55:21 GMT
Alchemist should have been included in this list also, I am one of the very few people who actually like her more than Spirit Arbiter for the sole reason that she silently kills enemy creatures without triggering enemy hero, a very ninja hero. It does take time to make a deck for her though. Unlike SA you can even use level 1-2 Alchemist. Cannot agree more. I think people have a hard time seeing the benefits of her atm. 1 week away from getting alchemist and have a solid deck of creatures to go with her...we will see. Keep quiet, lets keep the potential to ourselves Which creatures would you recommend? This discussion here is very interesting. I'm very undecided. Although Alchemist hasn't a lot votes i like him and there are many positive posts about him, too. Thanks guys
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 18, 2016 19:39:03 GMT
Alchemist is great with AoE and Magic creatures. Abaddon, Sea Wizard, Kirtana, Blossoms, Flame Brave, etc.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Feb 19, 2016 8:40:19 GMT
I faced an Alchemist deck with detonate melds, detonate Ophichuis, detonate elf something, detonate 3* card. It was super super annoying I would have disposed or instakill-ed the entire team but alas I don't use disposal and instakill cards at all in tournament, I despise disposal cards for some reason lol.
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 19, 2016 23:39:46 GMT
I faced an Alchemist deck with detonate melds, detonate Ophichuis, detonate elf something, detonate 3* card. It was super super annoying I would have disposed or instakill-ed the entire team but alas I don't use disposal and instakill cards at all in tournament, I despise disposal cards for some reason lol. I despise Disposal as well. I find it really cheesy, like if you were to bring a grenade to a fist fight.
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I faced an Alchemist deck with detonate melds, detonate Ophichuis, detonate elf something, detonate 3* card. It was super super annoying I would have disposed or instakill-ed the entire team but alas I don't use disposal and instakill cards at all in tournament, I despise disposal cards for some reason lol. I despise Disposal as well. I find it really cheesy, like if you were to bring a grenade to a fist fight. Ha ha, exactly. I like to action head on, man to man and disposal for some reason feels very cowardly.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Feb 20, 2016 9:40:02 GMT
I faced an Alchemist deck with detonate melds, detonate Ophichuis, detonate elf something, detonate 3* card. It was super super annoying I would have disposed or instakill-ed the entire team but alas I don't use disposal and instakill cards at all in tournament, I despise disposal cards for some reason lol. I despise Disposal as well. I find it really cheesy, like if you were to bring a grenade to a fist fight. Hum. I felt like that a while ago (like more than 6 months ago) but in the current game, disposal is kind of useless. I actually love seeing disposal. Nothing really cheesy about it at all since it's so easily walled once you have good cards. Early game it's cheesy as f*** and very hard to progress without, and cheese decks of 5+ disposal were almost impossible to beat. It's more like bringing a longsword to a fist fight- only now all the fist fighters have RPGs. As far as best hero, I still think Arbiter is the best long term (and I agree about not using Paragon, actually- doesn't really seem worth it) but I think Blademaster deserves some love. That guy has been garbage for so long and it's his time in the sunshine now. It's one of the few trials I can't just auto, because if you don't play carefully against him he wipes your whole deck- and there's nothing you can do about it. High level Blademaster is one of the most fearsome heroes out there.
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 20, 2016 21:45:02 GMT
I despise Disposal as well. I find it really cheesy, like if you were to bring a grenade to a fist fight. Hum. I felt like that a while ago (like more than 6 months ago) but in the current game, disposal is kind of useless. I actually love seeing disposal. Nothing really cheesy about it at all since it's so easily walled once you have good cards. Early game it's cheesy as f*** and very hard to progress without, and cheese decks of 5+ disposal were almost impossible to beat. It's more like bringing a longsword to a fist fight- only now all the fist fighters have RPGs. As far as best hero, I still think Arbiter is the best long term (and I agree about not using Paragon, actually- doesn't really seem worth it) but I think Blademaster deserves some love. That guy has been garbage for so long and it's his time in the sunshine now. It's one of the few trials I can't just auto, because if you don't play carefully against him he wipes your whole deck- and there's nothing you can do about it. High level Blademaster is one of the most fearsome heroes out there. The only time I've ever gotten beaten by a Blademaster deck was when I had to face Bander_WK_ in the Gauntlet. Although, I'm not sure if I lost because of the Blademaster, or simply because his deck was better.
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