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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 24, 2016 10:26:24 GMT
Hooker said that the new maximum level for skills was level 15 because on the TW server's FB page, the post that they made about the new Skill Enhancement feature said that the new max level was 15 for evolved 4 stars and 5 stars. Not sure how accurate that is, since Google Translate is uh.... not very reliable. But level 15 skills would be pretty bada**.
EDIT: My guildmate can understand a bit of Mandarin, and was able to loosely translate the Skill Enhancement help screen for me. He clarified that only evolved 5 stars can get skills up to level 15.
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 10:33:28 GMT
Do you have a link? When I search for Deck Heroes in Chinese (卡卡英雄) I get redirected to the English page. Or could you maybe copy the Chinese text so I can translate it
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 24, 2016 10:54:26 GMT
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 10:55:37 GMT
Do you have a link? When I search for Deck Heroes in Chinese (卡卡英雄) I get redirected to the English page. Or could you maybe copy the Chinese text so I can translate it www.facebook.com/DeckHeroesFPTw/Thanks! I will post the translation tonight after work
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Post by ℜ★God on Feb 24, 2016 10:56:49 GMT
Thanks! I will post the translation tonight after work No problem ^~^
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 11:49:06 GMT
Well the boss can suck it With the 9.5 upgrade there will be a new icon next in the “altar” section, called “skill essences”. In this section, you can choose between gems or “skill points” for purchase. These skill points can be obtained by beating enemies in the Grimoire. No further explanation is given. Gem draws hand out a lot of 5-star cards apparently, but skill point draw is not shown. You require 150 skill points for 1 card or 675 for 5 cards. An important note is that on the top of the cards you draw it says for which ability it is. For instance the bottom right card in the gem draw is for Reflect. The skills are sorted on rarity, and aside from that each card will have its own value. A Reflect card with a value of 5 will boost Reflect less effectively than a Reflect card with a value of 12. By clicking on the “skill points” button in the top left, you can access the skill point mall where you can sell (not buy) the new essences. Depending on its level, they can be sold for different amounts of points. It is not specified what kind of points, but I assume they mean skill points. After you have drawn the ability that you want, you can start upgrading your skill level. The button for this will be in Enhancing creatures section. Aside from leveling up your creature, you can click the right button to go to “enhance skill”. If you want to upgrade Flame Brave’s Blaze skill, you select the Blaze cards you want to use. As the example shows, a level 12 and a level 10 card together will increase a bit more than 1 level on Blaze, making it go from level 7 to level 8. Notes: - 4-star creature skills can be leveled up to level 10. 5-star cards that have been upgraded to level 15 can increase its highest skill up to level 15. - The new essence cards will be stored in the same inventory as your other cards, so make sure your inventory won’t get full. - There is a current bug that causes the game to crash or not add experience when you use a lot of low-level essence cards to level already high-leveled skills (Battleblow 8, Immunity 9 and such). - Special skills (those of Angel Prime, Paragon, Cancer and such) cannot be upgraded
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 11:49:30 GMT
So what will be the most OP creature when this patch comes through?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 12:23:46 GMT
WHALE FEEDS...
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 12:35:44 GMT
Some things to watch out for:
Recycle Horned Beast Sacrifice 15 Anathema Revive Fafnir Revive Mimir's Tree Retreat Queen Tempest
On another note, this completely removes the need for Spider Queen. You can simply meld Immunity 7 and then upgrade it to level 10. It will also reduce the need for melding, as you can level up the new skill now.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 12:52:32 GMT
You have to reserve all the rare skills because IGG could nerf their drop rates anytime..
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 13:43:47 GMT
Some things to watch out for: Recycle Horned Beast Sacrifice 15 Anathema Revive Fafnir Revive Mimir's Tree Retreat Queen Tempest On another note, this completely removes the need for Spider Queen. You can simply meld Immunity 7 and then upgrade it to level 10. It will also reduce the need for melding, as you can level up the new skill now. Depends how easy or expensive this proves to be. It's more likely Spider Queen/Abaddon saves Cancer from being used for Immunity 10, since I doubt it's going to be that easy to go from 7-10. Much easier to grind out your Immunity 9's and upgrade them to 10. This could be game breaking, and I'm not sure I like it. The skills were actually fairly well balanced, but a massive can of worms has just been opened up. Dodge 15 Fafnir? Immunity 10 Queen Temptress? Sacrifice 15 Sagittarius? There are some ugly cards going to come out of this. I expect, much like runes, the really valuable skills like Immunity are going to be rarer than honest salesmen. You can upgrade things like Pyre, Block, Blaze etc but upgrading Dodge/Immunity/Sacrifice is going to be nearly impossible. Unless you have a very deep wallet.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 13:57:36 GMT
You have to reserve all the rare skills because IGG could nerf their drop rates anytime.. Sin, what do you mean by reserve rare skillz? ATM i keep hold of speciifc cards for skillz to meld, say Alert Guard for BB8. Do we then need to keep hold of anything with dodge, imm, etc, even though a dodge 5 would probably be a nightmare to lvl high? Agree with derpy, i got a bad feeling about this, especially 5* going to lvl 15 skillz? WTH!!
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 13:59:11 GMT
Some things to watch out for: Recycle Horned Beast Sacrifice 15 Anathema Revive Fafnir Revive Mimir's Tree Retreat Queen Tempest On another note, this completely removes the need for Spider Queen. You can simply meld Immunity 7 and then upgrade it to level 10. It will also reduce the need for melding, as you can level up the new skill now. Depends how easy or expensive this proves to be. It's more likely Spider Queen/Abaddon saves Cancer from being used for Immunity 10, since I doubt it's going to be that easy to go from 7-10. Much easier to grind out your Immunity 9's and upgrade them to 10. This could be game breaking, and I'm not sure I like it. The skills were actually fairly well balanced, but a massive can of worms has just been opened up. Dodge 15 Fafnir? Immunity 10 Queen Temptress? Sacrifice 15 Sagittarius? There are some ugly cards going to come out of this. I expect, much like runes, the really valuable skills like Immunity are going to be rarer than honest salesmen. You can upgrade things like Pyre, Block, Blaze etc but upgrading Dodge/Immunity/Sacrifice is going to be nearly impossible. Unless you have a very deep wallet. Agreed. This will definitely mess up the balance between f2p and p2p players. No way any casual player can compete against a deck of fully improved creatures. However, from the Facebook post it seems like it would not require a lot of Essence cards to upgrade a skill (2 cards to go from level 7 to level 8) so it will pretty much depend on the rarity of these essences. There is a lot of balancing that can be done with this, so we will have to see how IGG manages this (if they manage it at all)
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Post by yangderui on Feb 24, 2016 14:02:09 GMT
At the very least it will give a nice boost to low-level players as they can easily ugrade more common skills like Frost Armor, Mass Heal or Blaze. It will probably be a problem solely for high-level players since they have to compete with the whales
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 14:18:56 GMT
You have to reserve all the rare skills because IGG could nerf their drop rates anytime.. Sin, what do you mean by reserve rare skillz? ATM i keep hold of speciifc cards for skillz to meld, say Alert Guard for BB8. Do we then need to keep hold of anything with dodge, imm, etc, even though a dodge 5 would probably be a nightmare to lvl high? Agree with derpy, i got a bad feeling about this, especially 5* going to lvl 15 skillz? WTH!! Oh sorry, I meant skill upgrade cards, like derpy said, they would be rare. They might even be abundant at first but eventually the droprate get nerfed when everybody gets hooked. I don't like how IGG puts a 100gem fee for a grimoire attempt. This would provide a larger gap between the whales are free to play players. P2P players would have more skill points for skill upgrades + more 5* rune shards if this gets implemented. Another factor about skill upgrades, THEY JUST WASTED THE GEMS OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT BOOSTERS JUST TO GET IMMUNITY 10 and OTHER SKILLS AS MELD FODDER.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 14:49:33 GMT
One of my guild mates had a good point for anyone worried about this new feature. If you look at runes on top players in tourny, even the mega whales, not many have really high lvl 5* runes, even after all this time. Hopefully it will be similar with the skill essences. Will the grimoire be unlimited refreshes @ 100 gems? I doubt it but.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 16:18:17 GMT
My immunity 1 paragons are getting excited
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 17:01:29 GMT
im just wondering when i will totally not be able to play this game anymore with all the upcoming "balance" updates or "improved" better new features.. While im still hoping to find at least one rec 2 creature, hundreds of whales will complete lm 15 fafnirs, sac 15 twins...no more comment...
All for spending,spending and more spending...
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Post by treeplot32 on Feb 24, 2016 20:07:42 GMT
I just drew a skill upgrade card which upgrades miasma from level 6 to level 9.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 20:27:08 GMT
I think IGG are gearing toward 6 star cards. They are already here with cards like Aquarius, Taurus, Royal Beastmaster etc... Currently they are 5 stars in disguise. This update will actually allow us to bring the current genuine 5 star cards on par with "6 star" cards to keep them relevant.
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Post by Aνα∂αƘє∂ανяα on Feb 24, 2016 20:52:46 GMT
Lol, Imagine a Sacrifice 15 or Battleblow 15 crit !
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Post by Lastpak✪NFS on Feb 24, 2016 21:00:44 GMT
I have a warlust 1 Pit dragon I wouldn't mind upgrading, but I think we are all getting a bit too excited. Let's just wait and see what we can actually upgrade, could very well be just as time-intensive as upgrading runes and don't forget the availability of runes.
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Post by Sick. on Feb 24, 2016 21:01:25 GMT
Lol, Imagine a Sacrifice 15 or Battleblow 15 crit ! I dont wanna realy imagine that to be honest D:
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Feb 24, 2016 21:18:38 GMT
im just wondering when i will totally not be able to play this game anymore with all the upcoming "balance" updates or "improved" better new features.. While im still hoping to find at least one rec 2 creature, hundreds of whales will complete lm 15 fafnirs, sac 15 twins...no more comment... All for spending,spending and more spending... Stuff like runes and this don't really widen the gap. They just keep it where it's at. Without sinks for the whales the gap would just eventually close.
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Post by treeplot32 on Feb 24, 2016 22:30:51 GMT
I have a warlust 1 Pit dragon I wouldn't mind upgrading, but I think we are all getting a bit too excited. Let's just wait and see what we can actually upgrade, could very well be just as time-intensive as upgrading runes and don't forget the availability of runes. My friend has an immunity 1 swordsmaster and he can upgrade it so aslong as they don't nerf it it will be possible I will evolve something for screenshot purposes when I have the energy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 23:20:57 GMT
im just wondering when i will totally not be able to play this game anymore with all the upcoming "balance" updates or "improved" better new features.. While im still hoping to find at least one rec 2 creature, hundreds of whales will complete lm 15 fafnirs, sac 15 twins...no more comment... All for spending,spending and more spending... Stuff like runes and this don't really widen the gap. They just keep it where it's at. Without sinks for the whales the gap would just eventually close. i dont think im gonna be able to spend 1k gems each day for rune shards. And some runes are really very helpful like immunity,battleblow dodge etc. wont get skill upgrade cards as a conclusion of not spending on grimoire as much as whales will do. if we are talking about whales, then both of us know very well that they spend on anything like crazy, and getting skill upgrade cards will be the most money invested feature ,we will see.. gap wont be closed but be more widened.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Feb 25, 2016 0:05:26 GMT
The point is that gradually updating ways for P2W players to stay ahead doesn't widen the gap. They need continuously relevant way to stay ahead just to maintain the gap.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 25, 2016 0:55:15 GMT
The point is that gradually updating ways for P2W players to stay ahead doesn't widen the gap. They need continuously relevant way to stay ahead just to maintain the gap. agreed... Without spenders... This game will close soon
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 25, 2016 0:58:19 GMT
Stuff like runes and this don't really widen the gap. They just keep it where it's at. Without sinks for the whales the gap would just eventually close. i dont think im gonna be able to spend 1k gems each day for rune shards. And some runes are really very helpful like immunity,battleblow dodge etc. wont get skill upgrade cards as a conclusion of not spending on grimoire as much as whales will do. if we are talking about whales, then both of us know very well that they spend on anything like crazy, and getting skill upgrade cards will be the most money invested feature ,we will see.. gap wont be closed but be more widened. just want to say Battleblow8 rune is not as great as u paint it... 50% to trigger bb8... Another 50% on top of this bb8 activation to trigger punch fa through and at level 10... Meaning a 25% at max rune level to punch through is really miserable...and the way it coded...it depends on first creature if u put on sweeper... Unlike magic 30% trigger for tempest.. If 10 creatures on fields there is high chance 3 will be frozen
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