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Post by treeplot32 on Feb 25, 2016 1:19:58 GMT
Chainstrike is upgradable
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 1:26:12 GMT
The point at gradually updating ways for P2W players to stay ahead doesn't widen the gap. They need continuously relevant way to stay ahead just to maintain the gap. Thinking different. there are already many ways - all of the ways- for whales to maintain the gap. they can do whatever they want with their gems and obtaining OP cards. in order to claim this is an issue about maintaining the gap for spenders, it has to be closing each day between p2p - f2p. Dont think so sorry.
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Post by Mandragora on Feb 25, 2016 3:22:24 GMT
Chainstrike is upgradable What does it change? The bonus damage?
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 25, 2016 4:25:24 GMT
Let's be fair to the igg... Their goal is to sell a product to obtain max profits... Whales will spend to have the top ranking feel good ... F2p is playing to try to catch up to top leaders...so igg needs to strike a balance to give whales an advantage and also give so called impressive on to the majority star or f2p that they can chase the whales.... Only then will the game will have sustainability.... Feeling philosophical today...hehe
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 5:55:20 GMT
Let's be fair to the igg... Their goal is to sell a product to obtain max profits... Whales will spend to have the top ranking feel good ... F2p is playing to try to catch up to top leaders...so igg needs to strike a balance to give whales an advantage and also give so called impressive on to the majority star or f2p that they can chase the whales.... Only then will the game will have sustainability.... Feeling philosophical today...hehe True... Nobody would put up a game for free. It might be free to play game but it's just a facade. The goal doesnt change; Money money money... I also think that the reason why F2P players are frustrated is because, whenever they come close to pounding a P2P player, IGG puts out an update that again widen the gap. In a sense, if you are a P2P player, would you still pay for a game knowing that F2P can easily sweep you? No right? So P2P will always have that privilege of having two steps ahead even against a hardcore F2P.
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Post by drakkan on Feb 25, 2016 7:03:32 GMT
Let's be fair to the igg... Their goal is to sell a product to obtain max profits... Whales will spend to have the top ranking feel good ... F2p is playing to try to catch up to top leaders...so igg needs to strike a balance to give whales an advantage and also give so called impressive on to the majority star or f2p that they can chase the whales.... Only then will the game will have sustainability.... Feeling philosophical today...hehe True... Nobody would put up a game for free. It might be free to play game but it's just a facade. The goal doesnt change; Money money money... I also think that the reason why F2P players are frustrated is because, whenever they come close to pounding a P2P player, IGG puts out an update that again widen the gap. In a sense, if you are a P2P player, would you still pay for a game knowing that F2P can easily sweep you? No right? So P2P will always have that privilege of having two steps ahead even against a hardcore F2P. Agree. And actually all up to few months back, DH had that weird situation that it was actually F2P who was on top. Imagine how heavy spenders felt when one Narrutu was in top of Tourney with just Guild Map melds. Sure Narruto was a good player, but this isnt chess .. this is game where you spend lots and if you cannot be better than others after you spend lots, someone might ask a question - why should I spend then? And they probably did .. so that's whats been an IGG focus ever since .. trying to make a gap between F2P with guildmap melds and P2P players .. closed exploits, then "fixed" fatique, then "fixed" mantra, upgraded old P2P cards (Taurus, Sagi, .. ), made new P2P cards (Aquarius, Alice, ..) Its just the logical way.. no need to be angry about it.. you cannot fight someone with unlimited resources, try to see what's your category and fight there..
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Post by sylava1 on Feb 25, 2016 7:08:41 GMT
I am going to enjoy those two new seal cards! I am waiting a long time for something like that.
Upgrading skills will probably out of reach on a large scale. Maybe I manage to improve my recycle horned beasts and i am allready happy!
We might see some other cards in top decks though due to skill increase
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 10:07:57 GMT
You cant upgrade all skills Immunity / Frost Blade / Sacrifice to name a few aren't upgradable.
I am looking forward to my Battleblow 15 Cancer though and Bloodrage 15 Horned Beast!
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 10:11:53 GMT
Are you sure you can upgrade Battleblow on Cancer? Assuming you have Battleblow 8, it would not be your highest skill as specified in the Facebook post. Or will they maybe look at the highest upgradeable skill, seeing how Immunity is not upgradeable
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 11:42:10 GMT
Are you sure you can upgrade Battleblow on Cancer? Assuming you have Battleblow 8, it would not be your highest skill as specified in the Facebook post. Or will they maybe look at the highest upgradeable skill, seeing how Immunity is not upgradeable Battleblow is upgrade-able, seen a screen of the skill essence from TW version. Im guessing Azuk has BB1 from default evolve skill? As to whether you can upgrade BB on Cancer, can see no reason why not, however it will involve much higher cost than on a 4* creature, just like it is more expensive to evolve and meld a 5*.
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 11:47:06 GMT
From what I understood, you can only level up 1 skill on an evolved 5-star, and it has to be its highest skill. Seeing how you can only get Battleblow 8 and standard have Immunity 10, I would assume you can only level Battleblow to level 10
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 11:50:29 GMT
The first note in the end of the Taiwanese Facebook section says
進化至15等的五星卡牌最高技能可以升至LV15
This can be translated as “the highest skill of cards evolved to level 15 can be upgraded to level 15"
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 11:53:27 GMT
The first note in the end of the Taiwanese Facebook section says 進化至15等的五星卡牌最高技能可以升至LV15 This can be translated as “the highest skill of cards evolved to level 15 can be upgraded to level 15" so... the fourth skill?
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 11:59:10 GMT
The first note in the end of the Taiwanese Facebook section says 進化至15等的五星卡牌最高技能可以升至LV15 This can be translated as “the highest skill of cards evolved to level 15 can be upgraded to level 15" so... the fourth skill? Idk xD it literally says the highest skill. I feel like if they meant the fourth skill they would have said "fourth skill" or "unlocked skill". But maybe you are right. I feel like being able to level the fourth skill to level 15 would be a lot more unbalanced though
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Feb 25, 2016 12:19:10 GMT
Should I be happy for my lifesap 1 mimir and demonic templar?
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 12:23:51 GMT
Should I be happy for my lifesap 1 mimir and demonic templar? I think so, presuming lifesap is on the upgrade list
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Feb 25, 2016 12:35:21 GMT
The point is gradually updating ways for P2W players to stay ahead doesn't widen the gap. They need continuously relevant way to stay ahead just to maintain the gap. Thinking different. there are already many ways - all of the ways- for whales to maintain the gap. they can do whatever they want with their gems and obtaining OP cards. in order to claim this is an issue about maintaining the gap for spenders, it has to be closing each day between p2p - f2p. Dont think so sorry. And as time goes by those ways become less and less relevant and the gaps they provided close. Back in the day spenders got a big advantage by being able to farm ultima chests. They had armies of disposals and were melding Lieges. As time went by the F2P players got the same cards and better just from coupons and guild maps and that gap pretty much closed. Back in the day the very top spenders got rewards like Easter Bunny. As time went by power creep set in and now there are rewards like Taurus from F2P events that completely blow them away and make them obsolete. Back in the day the top tourney decks were simply the spenders that got themselves Santa and Oceanus and pretty much propelled themselves to the top on the backs of them. Now when was the last time you even saw someone using Santa? Who at this point doesn't have an Oceanus? Back in the day spenders got out to an early lead with runes. Now every F2P player has more 5* vits and violences and 4* prots from grimore than they can even use in their main decks. The diminishing returns from leveling runes make it so that every day the rune level gap between spenders and F2P shrinks. As time goes by power creep alone makes every little advantage that the spenders get eventually obsolete or at least massively mitigated. New content that favors spenders isn't going to make things any tougher for the F2P players than it's been in the past. It only does that if the new content is more P2W favored than the old content.
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Post by ninjafred on Feb 25, 2016 12:40:54 GMT
Should I be happy for my lifesap 1 mimir and demonic templar? You should not if Highest Lvl skill only is upgradeable ...
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 12:44:32 GMT
Should I be happy for my lifesap 1 mimir and demonic templar? You should not if Highest Lvl skill only is upgradeable ... You will be able to level it to at least level 10
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 13:11:18 GMT
I posted the question on the Taiwanese Facebook page.
Of your 4 skills, only the highest one can be upgraded to level 15.
That means you will not be able to obtain Battleblow 15 on Cancer. Also, this only works for 5-star creatures, so Bloodrage 15 Horned Beast will also not be possible
Aside from this, they are considering increasing the amount of cards you can have in your inventory after numerous complaints
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Post by asgarth1980 on Feb 25, 2016 15:20:09 GMT
I posted the question on the Taiwanese Facebook page. Of your 4 skills, only the highest one can be upgraded to level 15. That means you will not be able to obtain Battleblow 15 on Cancer. Also, this only works for 5-star creatures, so Bloodrage 15 Horned Beast will also not be possible Aside from this, they are considering increasing the amount of cards you can have in your inventory after numerous complaints like I said all immunity 10 critters will roam the dh...
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 15:31:10 GMT
I posted the question on the Taiwanese Facebook page. Of your 4 skills, only the highest one can be upgraded to level 15. That means you will not be able to obtain Battleblow 15 on Cancer. Also, this only works for 5-star creatures, so Bloodrage 15 Horned Beast will also not be possible Aside from this, they are considering increasing the amount of cards you can have in your inventory after numerous complaints Thx for verifying this. In hindsight it does make sense to only be able to lvl 15 the existing highest skill. Otherwise you would not really need to meld anymore and waste tons of copies getting the expertise for a particular skill. So im guessing that the other three skills can still upgrade to lvl 10, or are you limited to only upgrading 1 skill per critter?
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Post by •JC•Herby on Feb 25, 2016 16:23:50 GMT
Sweet some new things for DH!
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Post by yangderui on Feb 25, 2016 16:39:22 GMT
When looking at this image where Flame Brave's Blaze skill has been upgraded, it seems like you are still able to level up the other skills. It is not really specified anywhere else, but I would assume this means that you can level up all the skills as long as you can obtain Essence cards for them.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Feb 25, 2016 16:49:06 GMT
I posted the question on the Taiwanese Facebook page. Of your 4 skills, only the highest one can be upgraded to level 15. That means you will not be able to obtain Battleblow 15 on Cancer. Also, this only works for 5-star creatures, so Bloodrage 15 Horned Beast will also not be possible Aside from this, they are considering increasing the amount of cards you can have in your inventory after numerous complaints like I said all immunity 10 critters will roam the dh... I'll just have to get immunity 15 and beat them.
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Post by sorryhaventname on Feb 25, 2016 16:53:40 GMT
I have mimir tree with dodge 1 and Magmus with dispel 1. Can i upgrade this skills now?
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Post by treeplot32 on Feb 25, 2016 16:55:38 GMT
You should be able to I can upgrade incinerate 1 on my oracle
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Post by tanisomsford on Feb 25, 2016 18:31:54 GMT
You should be able to I can upgrade incinerate 1 on my oracle That's fantastic! I'm kinda pissed you can't bump 3* cards even a little(like max lv8 or smth). I'm starting to think of new uses for useless 4*s!
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 18:36:56 GMT
Idk xD it literally says the highest skill. I feel like if they meant the fourth skill they would have said "fourth skill" or "unlocked skill". But maybe you are right. I feel like being able to level the fourth skill to level 15 would be a lot more unbalanced though That means the highest you can level a skill to is 15 and that's on evolved 5 stars only 4 stars can only have their skills upgraded to level 10
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Feb 25, 2016 18:38:08 GMT
YOU CAN'T UPGRADE IMMUNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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