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Post by derpy✪NFS on Mar 7, 2016 13:36:07 GMT
I've just been playing around with some numbers, but I'm not sure it's going to be feasible. The best way would be stacking high damage dealers like BR Michael, BR or BB8 Panther, and attempting to deal enough damage in 1 round to kill the phys immune. The problem with that is that you'd almost always kill off other creatures first, then he would heal up to max- then you wouldn't be able to damage him again. It's theoretically possible you could get VERY lucky and the timing goes perfect- but I don't think that's the solution. I think lv 10 Gladiator has 35% damage, so that means you need to deal 3x the amount of damage necessary to kill the phys immune creature, which by the time you're ready to deal high damage is going to be upwards of 100k. Not sure without Zora or Berserker there is any way you're going to be pulling that off, I've had Michael dealing around 30k- so it is possible, but again- you'd kill creatures off before you got to those numbers.
With Blossoms and massed magic? I guess it is possible, but then you run into the issue of keeping your creatures alive without a good hero to buff them.
Definitely drawing a blank on a good strategy for this so far, but we'll keep trying.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 7, 2016 14:25:39 GMT
Anybody tried gladiator yet? He would get you around some of the tougher kills Gladiators not a bad thought. On the magic spam thought, the reflect 10 would kill you without an arcane knight. I'm pretty ticked off paw master is glitched. That one should've been the hero answer.
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Post by typhus on Mar 7, 2016 15:32:49 GMT
Paladin bw10+ 7-8 oracles + 1-2 drones. Hero: Zora. Doing some maths (with max heal runes on oracles, bullseye rune) .... I think it´s very possible. Paladin can instakill with the bw at turn 30 or somthng.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 7, 2016 16:37:21 GMT
Turns out ignite soul works on the mortiis, and the phys immune is a mortii. So if the primary attacker is backed up by angel prime, or the primary IS Angel prime, there's no need for magic or direct damage.
Looks like we are getting closer...
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Post by Eladion on Mar 7, 2016 17:48:29 GMT
Turns out ignite soul works on the mortiis, and the phys immune is a mortii. So if the primary attacker is backed up by angel prime, or the primary IS Angel prime, there's no need for magic or direct damage. Looks like we are getting closer... This "bug" is probably going to get "fixed" in the next update...
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Post by es on Mar 7, 2016 20:14:13 GMT
What about sneak michael with maxed runes? 2.2 WL * 2.2 Sneak * 1.2^6 (~6 heals) * 1.3 srune = 18+ so with a basic attack 5000 he can do nearly 94k dmg per hit, isnt it enough?
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Post by drair on Mar 7, 2016 22:10:56 GMT
Just beat 5* in round 48 :-)
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Post by SirGin on Mar 7, 2016 23:29:25 GMT
Just beat 5* in round 48 :-)
Hero: Paw master Creatures: Michael (BB8), AP (I9), Drone, 6 oracles
Sweet! Great job! Sorry for being ignorant but what creature is "AP"? Also what lvl is your Paw Master?
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Post by SirGin on Mar 7, 2016 23:35:34 GMT
How do you place your crits? Angel, Michael, Mythril then Oracles?
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Mar 7, 2016 23:43:54 GMT
Nice, never thought of AP. That solves the physical immune problem.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 1:40:32 GMT
That's what everyone says but last time I tried it increased max hp. Hey J. Any chance you could confirm a possible glitch with paw master for you? If we can nail this down, I'd say we have a winner and I'll edit the OP.
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Mar 8, 2016 2:01:47 GMT
Right yeah. Thats the ticket, AP. Well, its still tough but its definitely beatable now at least.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 2:16:19 GMT
Just beat 5* in round 48 :-)
Hero: Paw master Creatures: Michael (BB8), AP (I9), Drone, 6 oracles
I would guess you require all three of the formers in the first five draw.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 2:27:44 GMT
Just beat 5* in round 48 :-)
Hero: Paw master Creatures: Michael (BB8), AP (I9), Drone, 6 oracles
I would guess you require all three of the formers in the first five draw.
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Post by hub666 on Mar 8, 2016 6:00:03 GMT
Any alternative to bb8 michael? Farming him will take a months for me. Got only pure lvl10 atm
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 8, 2016 6:46:01 GMT
Why do u need to complete this level 5?.. The rewards is pathetic... Completing level 4 gets u 4 maps versus level 5 5 maps... U dun lose that.much.... I rather spend my time and resources to challenge protean grimoire 5... Still some way to go...
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Post by yangderui on Mar 8, 2016 7:03:02 GMT
Is it necessary for Michael to have Battleblow? I have a FA Michael now, so I'd have to make a new one then
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Post by hub666 on Mar 8, 2016 7:43:59 GMT
Why do u need to complete this level 5?.. The rewards is pathetic... Completing level 4 gets u 4 maps versus level 5 5 maps... U dun lose that.much.... I rather spend my time and resources to challenge protean grimoire 5... Still some way to go... For lvl 5 rune shards
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Post by drair on Mar 8, 2016 7:50:43 GMT
Yes BB8 Michael is needed.
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Placement: Michael first (obviously), rest doesnt matter. But AP need to kill the immune creature.
Runes: Need to add HP runes to all creatures except michael, as you want Pawmaster to target him as much as possible
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Post by drair on Mar 8, 2016 7:54:56 GMT
That's what everyone says but last time I tried it increased max hp. Hey J. Any chance you could confirm a possible glitch with paw master for you? If we can nail this down, I'd say we have a winner and I'll edit the OP.
It increase max HP, but only for a few round (so it seemed) .... so paw master targetted michael 5 times (I think), ended up with 22000 atk in round 41.
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Post by hub666 on Mar 8, 2016 8:17:15 GMT
Yes BB8 Michael is needed. Paw master lvl7 Placement: Michael first (obviously), rest doesnt matter. But AP need to kill the immune creature. Runes: Need to add HP runes to all creatures except michael, as you want Pawmaster to target him as much as possible If AP need to kill physical immune one, i think he should be first and bb8 michael second to prevent situation when you will stuck with immune card against michael on first places
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Post by derpy✪NFS on Mar 8, 2016 8:21:29 GMT
I'm fairly certain Zora will work just as well as Paw Master. Angel Prime is the real key to this.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Mar 8, 2016 8:44:02 GMT
Why do u need to complete this level 5?.. The rewards is pathetic... Completing level 4 gets u 4 maps versus level 5 5 maps... U dun lose that.much.... I rather spend my time and resources to challenge protean grimoire 5... Still some way to go... For lvl 5 rune shards level this grimoire is just giving sorcery V rune... I believe alot of us have a number of it... Just like rage boost... I am getting sorcery V rune in abundance
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Post by nemesisdestroyer on Mar 8, 2016 11:41:38 GMT
Is BB8 Paladin able to do the job?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Mar 8, 2016 11:45:47 GMT
Is BB8 Paladin able to do the job? it can, but the increase would be a bit different.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 16:34:50 GMT
Is BB8 Paladin able to do the job? Michael has warlust too. So I would imagine its harder for a paladin. A BB8 panther chief could work, but only with a BB rune, and the RNG may slow you enough to lose round 50.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 16:39:49 GMT
Why do u need to complete this level 5?.. The rewards is pathetic... Completing level 4 gets u 4 maps versus level 5 5 maps... U dun lose that.much.... I rather spend my time and resources to challenge protean grimoire 5... Still some way to go... You do have a good point asgarth. Personally, if the is an easier autokill deck for the 4* challenge, I would be into that as a good alternative while building the 5*. But FWIW, if the deck needs to be the same basically and long play too, then I'd just rather focus on getting good enough for the five star. Lastly bro, its not about the rune. The skill upgrade system is going to be a craz y game changer IMO. Every skill card matters for the f2p crowd.
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Post by tanisomsford on Mar 8, 2016 16:48:40 GMT
This last stuff did give me a thought. What deck builds can beat the 4* challenge? Are any of them easy builds on the cheap?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 19:08:05 GMT
This last stuff did give me a thought. What deck builds can beat the 4* challenge? Are any of them easy builds on the cheap? I use Judgment with Atom Flare Seraphs and 1 Atom flare Ash beast with Taurus.
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