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Blademaster (All vigor, Attk, Haste, Hero Vigor, Blight Rune) *Firestorm *Deathcloud OR *Flesh feast *Group tactics (which set is better?)
Creatures Sac Twins (if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) Sac Twins(if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) RQT RQT
Sac/ Anathema(if talent set 2) <-> Sneak Anathema ( if talent set 1) Killer Queen (would meld either Delay 4 OR Bloodrage OR WHAT?) Paragon
Rec HB => Doesn't constitute to damage, Thus planning to have Rec2 Neander preferably Nidhogg OR do you have a better suggestion for damage recycler or a poison recycler?
Rec HB =>
I have one more slot, thus considering having the combo of 2 twin +1 ophiuchus OR 2 Ophiuchus 1 Twins
These are the creatures that are more likely I have and easy to obtain, I would like to add the two sisters(Kitsune and Kumiho) but I don't have them nor am very lucky to get them through boosters and transmute...
GOAL: The main reason I chose the poison/detonate/twin defense route is to maximize butcher's damage and skill, that way, during the start of my turn, i could easily control the board since the number of enemies and their hp has been cut down.
RTQs are very disruptive to the enemy especially for those without stoneskin and immunity. having additional rage is just a plus.
I want to know your insights... What do you think would be best for this deck ?
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Blademaster (All vigor, Attk, Haste, Hero Vigor, Blight Rune) *Firestorm *Deathcloud OR*Flesh feast *Group tactics ( which set is better?) Creatures Sac Twins (if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) Sac Twins(if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) RQT RQT Sac/ Anathema(if talent set 2) <-> Sneak Anathema ( if talent set 1) Killer Queen (would meld either Delay 4 OR Bloodrage OR WHAT?) Paragon Rec HB => Doesn't constitute to damage, Thus planning to have Rec2 Neander preferably Nidhogg OR do you have a better suggestion for damage recycler or a poison recycler?
Rec HB => I have one more slot, thus considering having the combo of 2 twin +1 ophiuchus OR 2 Ophiuchus 1 Twins These are the creatures that are more likely I have and easy to obtain, I would like to add the two sisters(Kitsune and Kumiho) but I don't have them nor am very lucky to get them through boosters and transmute... GOAL: The main reason I chose the poison/detonate/twin defense route is to maximize butcher's damage and skill, that way, during the start of my turn, i could easily control the board since the number of enemies and their hp has been cut down. RTQs are very disruptive to the enemy especially for those without stoneskin and immunity. having additional rage is just a plus. I want to know your insights... What do you think would be best for this deck ? First off all my ideas will probably sound weird but have a think about it. 1) try meld recycle to KQ (its like a 2 in 1 card, saves you a deck slot for rec HB) 2) did you think about an i9 Arcane Sage? Its Vacuum Bomb will work nice with BM and the Blaze also helps if you are going run sneak Ana/Anas 3) BM skills defo go with Firestorm and the second skill either GT or Death cloud is really your choice 4) run 1 sac card is enough 5) you can try a bloodrage Michael for some heavy damage? some weird ideas, you dont have to follow all of these of course. Anyways hope you can find something useful
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Mar 31, 2016 9:44:08 GMT
Blademaster (All vigor, Attk, Haste, Hero Vigor, Blight Rune) *Firestorm *Deathcloud OR*Flesh feast *Group tactics ( which set is better?) Creatures Sac Twins (if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) Sac Twins(if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) RQT RQT Sac/ Anathema(if talent set 2) <-> Sneak Anathema ( if talent set 1) Killer Queen (would meld either Delay 4 OR Bloodrage OR WHAT?) Paragon Rec HB => Doesn't constitute to damage, Thus planning to have Rec2 Neander preferably Nidhogg OR do you have a better suggestion for damage recycler or a poison recycler?
Rec HB => I have one more slot, thus considering having the combo of 2 twin +1 ophiuchus OR 2 Ophiuchus 1 Twins These are the creatures that are more likely I have and easy to obtain, I would like to add the two sisters(Kitsune and Kumiho) but I don't have them nor am very lucky to get them through boosters and transmute... GOAL: The main reason I chose the poison/detonate/twin defense route is to maximize butcher's damage and skill, that way, during the start of my turn, i could easily control the board since the number of enemies and their hp has been cut down. RTQs are very disruptive to the enemy especially for those without stoneskin and immunity. having additional rage is just a plus. I want to know your insights... What do you think would be best for this deck ? First off all my ideas will probably sound weird but have a think about it. 1) try meld recycle to KQ (its like a 2 in 1 card, saves you a deck slot for rec HB) 2) did you think about an i9 Arcane Sage? Its Vacuum Bomb will work nice with BM and the Blaze also helps if you are going run sneak Ana/Anas 3) BM skills defo go with Firestorm and the second skill either GT or Death cloud is really your choice 4) run 1 sac card is enough 5) you can try a bloodrage Michael for some heavy damage? some weird ideas, you dont have to follow all of these of course. Anyways hope you can find something useful Yes Arcane sage could do wonders.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Mar 31, 2016 15:50:41 GMT
I may yolo the last 29 shards for BM and start this path myself Sin Together we can get him working eh
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Post by NFS✪Grandfather on Mar 31, 2016 17:00:15 GMT
I may yolo the last 29 shards for BM and start this path myself Sin Together we can get him working eh wait for me!!!! 57 more
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Post by zere on Mar 31, 2016 17:04:20 GMT
I may yolo the last 29 shards for BM and start this path myself Sin Together we can get him working eh wait for me!!!! 57 more Wait for me too 91 Left haha
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 1, 2016 6:33:23 GMT
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Post by tanisomsford on Apr 2, 2016 17:08:06 GMT
I may yolo the last 29 shards for BM and start this path myself Sin Together we can get him working eh As of this morning, the 50 BM shard prize for medals in faction war is at around 7k, which is about 3700 gems. It should be ending g tonight, so not a bad way to speed up that timeline.
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Post by nameless44 on Apr 11, 2016 7:26:57 GMT
I should get him this afternoon when iam at home just 1 shard away need to spend 12 energy on mine till i have him . Then i can try too make a good deck with him. Anathema, Oinari and staboid have allready a spot i guess.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 11:38:37 GMT
I now have mine, and got the 50 shards from FW so he is level 3, and only 9 shards to go for lvl 4 Have not used him in decks yet as talents are only to lvl 5 and nothing special. Long-term objective will be for him to be a main tourny deck. Thinking of bullseye crits, some to have Sac, some rage control/boost and then something to help get HP's down on enemies, KQ is an obvious choice? Outside this not too sure? I am around rank 250 so up against nearly full 5* meld decks where mgc, disposal and non-bullseye are not very effective?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 11:45:17 GMT
I now have mine, and got the 50 shards from FW so he is level 3, and only 9 shards to go for lvl 4 Have not used him in decks yet as talents are only to lvl 5 and nothing special. Long-term objective will be for him to be a main tourny deck. Thinking of bullseye crits, some to have Sac, some rage control/boost and then something to help get HP's down on enemies, KQ is an obvious choice? Outside this not too sure? I am around rank 250 so up against nearly full 5* meld decks where mgc, disposal and non-bullseye are not very effective? kitsune should really be at this deck and also CApricorn, both of them fit the deck nicely. The problem is that, I don't have them. If you look at my deck and the creatures I have on my main, I don't even have a rare creature. Only those obtainable by farm, coupons, and guild map.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 11:45:40 GMT
Blademaster (All vigor, Attk, Haste, Hero Vigor, Blight Rune) *Firestorm *Deathcloud OR*Flesh feast *Group tactics ( which set is better?) Creatures Sac Twins (if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) Sac Twins(if talent set 2) <-> Detonate/sneak Ophiuchus( if talent set 1) RQT RQT Sac/ Anathema(if talent set 2) <-> Sneak Anathema ( if talent set 1) Killer Queen (would meld either Delay 4 OR Bloodrage OR WHAT?) Paragon Rec HB => Doesn't constitute to damage, Thus planning to have Rec2 Neander preferably Nidhogg OR do you have a better suggestion for damage recycler or a poison recycler?
Rec HB => I have one more slot, thus considering having the combo of 2 twin +1 ophiuchus OR 2 Ophiuchus 1 Twins These are the creatures that are more likely I have and easy to obtain, I would like to add the two sisters(Kitsune and Kumiho) but I don't have them nor am very lucky to get them through boosters and transmute... GOAL: The main reason I chose the poison/detonate/twin defense route is to maximize butcher's damage and skill, that way, during the start of my turn, i could easily control the board since the number of enemies and their hp has been cut down. RTQs are very disruptive to the enemy especially for those without stoneskin and immunity. having additional rage is just a plus. I want to know your insights... What do you think would be best for this deck ? Hey Sin... just pondering over your OP. Firestorm is definately the way forward, works a treat for my cap deck. Fleshfeast if using runed SAC crits is again awesome, so i think that is the talents sorted.... the other being as high a protection as possible. Sac crits a given. After that, based on my experiences in tourny, i would say best bet for dealing dmg from support crits would be direct dmg, so Arcane sage, melded EOJ with assasinate, Sagitarius(Rare i know), etc. Mgc and poison just come unstuck too often from immunity and mythril drone, whereas direct dmg works all the time.... even Harlots hate it
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 11:49:53 GMT
I now have mine, and got the 50 shards from FW so he is level 3, and only 9 shards to go for lvl 4 Have not used him in decks yet as talents are only to lvl 5 and nothing special. Long-term objective will be for him to be a main tourny deck. Thinking of bullseye crits, some to have Sac, some rage control/boost and then something to help get HP's down on enemies, KQ is an obvious choice? Outside this not too sure? I am around rank 250 so up against nearly full 5* meld decks where mgc, disposal and non-bullseye are not very effective? kitsune should really be at this deck and also CApricorn, both of them fit the deck nicely. The problem is that, I don't have them. If you look at my deck and the creatures I have on my main, I don't even have a rare creature. Only those obtainable by farm, coupons, and guild map. In that case, all the way with sac Anathema, sac PD, get to map 13 and farm michael every day to meld immune 9, bb8, BR8, try soul swap twins and FA twins. Hmm, Rec 2 Nidhog? Arcane Sage from seals would still be a good choice with the 500 direct dmg and sneak?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 11:55:06 GMT
I also tried a mediocre combination of magic and poison, they work pretty well with blaze,multiple poison, curse,runed plague,. but immunity is really the most painful. The bleed of kisune could really do the job instead. so im doing my best to finish map 14 for those delilahs
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 12:15:29 GMT
I also tried a mediocre combination of magic and poison, they work pretty well with blaze,multiple poison, curse,runed plague,. but immunity is really the most painful. The bleed of kisune could really do the job instead. so im doing my best to finish map 14 for those delilahs Why Delilah's Sin? Are they for Kitsune transformation?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 12:21:52 GMT
I also tried a mediocre combination of magic and poison, they work pretty well with blaze,multiple poison, curse,runed plague,. but immunity is really the most painful. The bleed of kisune could really do the job instead. so im doing my best to finish map 14 for those delilahs Why Delilah's Sin? Are they for Kitsune transformation? ah yes! I'm savin gems for at least 3 tries at transmute. low chance doesn't really help me.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 12:31:54 GMT
Sin, i have only had success with transmute when protecting nearly all the fodder, and then using high insight. Protecting cards is not important afaik, its just that i did not have copies to burn. Out of 5 goes, about 5K+ gems, i got Bunny(2 attempts) and Axe Warden(3 attempts). Oh, and that was on a x2 success event for Transmute. Im not sure if i would recommend this over Alice Bond.... but i appreciate for F2P AB may take too long to be effective?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 12:41:57 GMT
Sin, i have only had success with transmute when protecting nearly all the fodder, and then using high insight. Protecting cards is not important afaik, its just that i did not have copies to burn. Out of 5 goes, about 5K+ gems, i got Bunny(2 attempts) and Axe Warden(3 attempts). Oh, and that was on a x2 success event for Transmute. Im not sure if i would recommend this over Alice Bond.... but i appreciate for F2P AB may take too long to be effective? so should I get ores and get 35 kitsune shards? I think that way is more plausible and more helpful
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Post by zere on Apr 11, 2016 12:42:02 GMT
Sin, i have only had success with transmute when protecting nearly all the fodder, and then using high insight. Protecting cards is not important afaik, its just that i did not have copies to burn. Out of 5 goes, about 5K+ gems, i got Bunny(2 attempts) and Axe Warden(3 attempts). Oh, and that was on a x2 success event for Transmute. Im not sure if i would recommend this over Alice Bond.... but i appreciate for F2P AB may take too long to be effective? Guess it heavily depends on the personality if F2P AB is worth the savings. I'm saving heavily because AB is a nice gem mine So for transmutation tries I waste no gems and expect nothing. So I'm not disappointed if I dont get a Bunny ^^.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 13:08:38 GMT
Sin, i have only had success with transmute when protecting nearly all the fodder, and then using high insight. Protecting cards is not important afaik, its just that i did not have copies to burn. Out of 5 goes, about 5K+ gems, i got Bunny(2 attempts) and Axe Warden(3 attempts). Oh, and that was on a x2 success event for Transmute. Im not sure if i would recommend this over Alice Bond.... but i appreciate for F2P AB may take too long to be effective? Guess it heavily depends on the personality if F2P AB is worth the savings. I'm saving heavily because AB is a nice gem mine So for transmutation tries I waste no gems and expect nothing. So I'm not disappointed if I dont get a Bunny ^^. Fair point I guess what we are trying to get is the best, most cost effective way, to get Kitsune. The last FW would have delivered for 1-4k gems afaik? Any of the roulette wheel methods are always going to be too much of a gamble, literally. She does turn up in Sky Arena quite alot, and being a shorter event may yeild for less gems? I normally part with 1-3k to get rank 100-80?
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 13:14:05 GMT
Sin, i have only had success with transmute when protecting nearly all the fodder, and then using high insight. Protecting cards is not important afaik, its just that i did not have copies to burn. Out of 5 goes, about 5K+ gems, i got Bunny(2 attempts) and Axe Warden(3 attempts). Oh, and that was on a x2 success event for Transmute. Im not sure if i would recommend this over Alice Bond.... but i appreciate for F2P AB may take too long to be effective? so should I get ores and get 35 kitsune shards? I think that way is more plausible and more helpful I would recommend 1st chest in silver and gold mines, but no further, even if IGG try to tempt you by blessing it. You stand a good chance of a full 5* creature (I dropped a Blossoms last week from 1st gold), a nice lot of BM shards from silver + gold chest, and some random 5* critter shards from gold mine. Note, to 1st silver chest is 100 gems, to 1st gold chest is 350 gems. Then with 15 gold omni shards from relics you should one day have her? i had a bit of spare change after AB so have been doing 1st gold and silver for the last week, got a nice lot GM and Hippo shards
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Post by zere on Apr 11, 2016 13:41:42 GMT
so should I get ores and get 35 kitsune shards? I think that way is more plausible and more helpful I would recommend 1st chest in silver and gold mines, but no further, even if IGG try to tempt you by blessing it. You stand a good chance of a full 5* creature (I dropped a Blossoms last week from 1st gold), a nice lot of BM shards from silver + gold chest, and some random 5* critter shards from gold mine. Note, to 1st silver chest is 100 gems, to 1st gold chest is 350 gems. Then with 15 gold omni shards from relics you should one day have her? i had a bit of spare change after AB so have been doing 1st gold and silver for the last week, got a nice lot GM and Hippo shards Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine.
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I would recommend 1st chest in silver and gold mines, but no further, even if IGG try to tempt you by blessing it. You stand a good chance of a full 5* creature (I dropped a Blossoms last week from 1st gold), a nice lot of BM shards from silver + gold chest, and some random 5* critter shards from gold mine. Note, to 1st silver chest is 100 gems, to 1st gold chest is 350 gems. Then with 15 gold omni shards from relics you should one day have her? i had a bit of spare change after AB so have been doing 1st gold and silver for the last week, got a nice lot GM and Hippo shards Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine. yes, I already have 11 shards.
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Post by zere on Apr 11, 2016 13:46:42 GMT
Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine. yes, I already have 11 shards. Ah thats nice. Would complement well with my 20 5* omni shards ^^. Now the dilemma starts. Silver mine or save gems for better AB rewards *sigh*. Btw Sinister why did you change your name to my cat's name?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 13:48:29 GMT
yes, I already have 11 shards. Ah thats nice. Would complement well with my 20 5* omni shards ^^. Now the dilemma starts. Silver mine or save gems for better AB rewards *sigh*. Btw Sinister why did you change your name to my cat's name? Meow!
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Post by zere on Apr 11, 2016 13:54:25 GMT
I would recommend 1st chest in silver and gold mines, but no further, even if IGG try to tempt you by blessing it. You stand a good chance of a full 5* creature (I dropped a Blossoms last week from 1st gold), a nice lot of BM shards from silver + gold chest, and some random 5* critter shards from gold mine. Note, to 1st silver chest is 100 gems, to 1st gold chest is 350 gems. Then with 15 gold omni shards from relics you should one day have her? i had a bit of spare change after AB so have been doing 1st gold and silver for the last week, got a nice lot GM and Hippo shards Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine. Btw whats de difference between Silver and Gold mines in regard of shards? Anything special, that only drops from gold mines?
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Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine. Btw whats de difference between Silver and Gold mines in regard of shards? Anything special, that only drops from gold mines? the silver mine provides a better ration of Gem to ore but provides 4* creature shards with a change of a 4* full creature. The Gold mine is more expensive but has a 5* rare shards and a chance for a full 5* creature.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 14:41:42 GMT
I would recommend 1st chest in silver and gold mines, but no further, even if IGG try to tempt you by blessing it. You stand a good chance of a full 5* creature (I dropped a Blossoms last week from 1st gold), a nice lot of BM shards from silver + gold chest, and some random 5* critter shards from gold mine. Note, to 1st silver chest is 100 gems, to 1st gold chest is 350 gems. Then with 15 gold omni shards from relics you should one day have her? i had a bit of spare change after AB so have been doing 1st gold and silver for the last week, got a nice lot GM and Hippo shards Does Silver Mine drop 5* critter shards like Kitsune? I've never done anything else then the first mine. Silver mine rewards also show full 5* cards, just not rare ones like Blossoms.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Apr 14, 2016 5:57:07 GMT
Was able to have 80% of the creatures above. Having no revive still puts a toll on the deck. Wight can still beat it easily with just 2 unmelded thalassa.
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Post by zere on Apr 14, 2016 10:51:01 GMT
For a small donation of 99.99$ you can get your revive for free
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