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Post by pypy on Apr 11, 2016 12:11:55 GMT
I had to reg just to post this deck I'm up against at 12/15. Considering what I have, this is the craziest I've seen so far.
Lv 94 Armageddon with Re-ani 2 and Deathless 8
QT Retreat Swordmaster Recycle 1 HB Recycle 1 Harbinger Recycle 1 Harbinger Instakill Hellwolf Disposal x5
I'm lv 71 with barely a decent deck and no disposals, at all. This is gonna require some thought.
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Post by ℜ★God on Apr 11, 2016 13:16:23 GMT
At first I was like "Oh, that deck looks pretty easy, what's the problem?" Then I saw your level. Yeah, that should be quite the challenge. Try to use as much Stoneskin and Immunity as possible (Anathema, The Twins, Royal Dragon) in order to protect yourself from the Disposal Hellwolves. If you got Kumiho from the first Heist, then she could really help out here. Bullseye creatures (Anathema, Pit Dragon, Angel Prime, Paladin, Manticore, Valkyrie) would make dealing with his utility creatures much easier. Titania would also help, in the case that he has like 3+ of his Hellwolves in play. I'm assuming you don't have a Paragon. Some decent alternatives for your level are Paw Master and Balrog. Balrog obviously blows creatures up when they're in the graveyard, removing them from play entirely. And Paw Master's hero skill, Fiery Elixer, negates Rebirth, Undying, and Deathless. Good luck!
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 11, 2016 15:45:49 GMT
If you have Balrog you could try chipping away at his critters. It will take time but slowly you may be lucky enough to get rid of his critters.
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Post by pypy on Apr 11, 2016 16:12:59 GMT
Yeah, but no, I don't have Balrog. I'm all in on Wight lv 8 and Berserker/Dragon Rider, both lv 7. My "main" deck is just a rag-tag group of decent minions
Panter FA Jonara FA HB Recycle Harbinger Instakill Evo'd Graboid with BB1 (farming the other one) Evo'd Swordmaster with Venom edge 1 Mythril Death knight
and then whatever fits in for a fight, Siren, Will x2, Terror dragon x2, Naga, Twins, Oracle - stuff like that. I'll try to cheese it a few times, maybe be able to snipe a recycler, the Hellwolves aren't really the issue, I have plenty of stoneskin.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 12, 2016 2:27:34 GMT
Level 12/15 hero dun auto heal... So UAE hero kill.. 20k+ hp is easy
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Post by xathrax on Apr 12, 2016 7:23:19 GMT
Level 12/15 hero dun auto heal... So UAE hero kill.. 20k+ hp is easy They don't heal at all or not much? I'm considering a stab deck so that I can do both gauntlet and grimoir, but when I went with witches it seemed to do pretty much nothing.
Also I feel OPs pain. I just hit level 60, but I encountered a guy at 13 or 14 with sac sagitterius, sac graboid, mystic and recycle HB among other stuff. I made 3 goes at him and was unable to even kill a single creature.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 12, 2016 7:53:14 GMT
Level 12/15 hero dun auto heal... So UAE hero kill.. 20k+ hp is easy They don't heal at all or not much? I'm considering a stab deck so that I can do both gauntlet and grimoir, but when I went with witches it seemed to do pretty much nothing.
Also I feel OPs pain. I just hit level 60, but I encountered a guy at 13 or 14 with sac sagitterius, sac graboid, mystic and recycle HB among other stuff. I made 3 goes at him and was unable to even kill a single creature.
multiple sac is a dream in gauntlet...use the tactic of sending 1* hero... And 1 level 5 3* crit.... Repeat process untill his sac clear all except 1
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Post by xathrax on Apr 12, 2016 8:20:24 GMT
That would work if he didn't have multiple rec/revive crits along with Wight. If I had Balrog I may have had a chance, but otherwise not really.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 12, 2016 11:20:26 GMT
Level 12/15 hero dun auto heal... So UAE hero kill.. 20k+ hp is easy They don't heal at all or not much? I'm considering a stab deck so that I can do both gauntlet and grimoir, but when I went with witches it seemed to do pretty much nothing.
Also I feel OPs pain. I just hit level 60, but I encountered a guy at 13 or 14 with sac sagitterius, sac graboid, mystic and recycle HB among other stuff. I made 3 goes at him and was unable to even kill a single creature.
Stab can work, but if you dont get the job done 1st attempt the enemy hero can sometimes heal, not sure on the numbers behind this im afraid? For stab deck you really need a 5* hero with battlecry, beserk and war hungry.... Dont deploy anything until your hero hp is below 30% and then bury the mutha This also used to work a treat for the explore maps, right to finish of 14 for me Now, for yourself with no 5* hero it will make it alot more tricky....
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 12, 2016 11:24:33 GMT
That would work if he didn't have multiple rec/revive crits along with Wight. If I had Balrog I may have had a chance, but otherwise not really. u tried before?...when I was lower level I did repetitive 1 hero 1 3* untill he sac his reviver and repeat....it is sure way....but time consuming
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Post by xathrax on Apr 12, 2016 12:27:48 GMT
Yes and it's not realistic. If he has only one reviver sure, but if there is a reviver + 2 recycles he would have to sac one of them AND kill you before he manages to play one of the other recyclers and just get it back.
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 12, 2016 12:56:49 GMT
Yes and it's not realistic. If he has only one reviver sure, but if there is a reviver + 2 recycles he would have to sac one of them AND kill you before he manages to play one of the other recyclers and just get it back. The whole idea is to die the same round he Sacs a crit so that takes care of your second point.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 12, 2016 13:45:35 GMT
You know what i did when i was your lvl and up against a tw@ty deck.... hit reset. It seems like a missed opportunity but you will have gained some glory and tokens, so no point wasting days on a futile mission, and therefore missing out on further glory/tokens. The gold chest rewards can be a bit underwhelming alot of the time anyway Edit: Sometimes i get x5 Warlock or Oceanus shards, only once in 17 months a 5* creature, but most of the time its 1-4 Deathmort or Devil Hunter shards...
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Post by kvasac on Apr 13, 2016 8:48:46 GMT
Yes and it's not realistic. If he has only one reviver sure, but if there is a reviver + 2 recycles he would have to sac one of them AND kill you before he manages to play one of the other recyclers and just get it back. Asgarth tells you good. Yesterday I had 9500?!?!? power opponent: Sac Pit Dragon, Sac Twins, RQT, HB rec2, Mimir Revive, Bloodletter Revive, Paragon, Cancer, Sagitarius, and 1 more (YoushiYoshi_WK), something like that. You just play 1* hero and 3* creature. If he gets in 1st 3 cards Sac and Reviver, just play your creature. He eats recycler, kills your critter and you got 1 less. I do it every gauntlet I am stuck. AND IT IS DOABLE. If no sac's then just use Instakill or disposal like this. 1 card, 1* hero. Because that Power scale is a joke. That deck is 9500 power, while my wight disposal deck is 10700 power. Like wtf. And my deck is like 2 diposal wolfs, instakill harb, 2 HB rec, and vanilla Pit, Terror, Graboid...
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 13, 2016 10:08:51 GMT
The thing i dont get atm with my own gauntlet runs is that 90% of my opponents are lvl 80-89 Wight decks?? Now bear in mind that im Lvl 89 and packing 4 x revive, 2 x rec2, 3 x sac, Sagitarius, Aquarius, Alice and 7 x 5* hero's, it just seems a bit bonkers that lower lvl players are getting WK decks?!?!?
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 13, 2016 10:24:12 GMT
The thing i dont get atm with my own gauntlet runs is that 90% of my opponents are lvl 80-89 Wight decks?? Now bear in mind that im Lvl 89 and packing 4 x revive, 2 x rec2, 3 x sac, Sagitarius, Aquarius, Alice and 7 x 5* hero's, it just seems a bit bonkers that lower lvl players are getting WK decks?!?!? I don't have anywhere near your level of cards but I'm in a similar position I think; Level 89, 12.5k-ish power, 1x Revive, 1x Rec2, 2x Sac8, Sag, 3x 5* heroes as of this morning. At least 10 opponents I get each day are Wight decks. I've only had 2 stupid opponents that have given me problems in the last 4 months since I came back to DH, and both of those were this week incidentally. It makes me wonder why some people try to keep Deck Power low for an easier Gauntlet - It seems they people at lower Deck Power actually struggle more. As for those 2 opponents I did struggle with this week, they truly were awful: Oceanus level 7 3x Aquarius 2x Retreat Queen Temptress Rec2 Mimir's Tree Revive Kumiho Frost Blade 10 Kitsune Revive Dragonlord I10 Sagittarius Spirit Arbiter level 8 (Horrible hero to face) 3x Retreat Queen Temptress Revive Kumiho Frost Blade 10 Kitsune I9 Paragon I9 Taurus Sac8 Sagittarius Rec2 Mimir's Tree Revive Fafnir Now those decks are scary.
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Post by kvasac on Apr 13, 2016 10:31:09 GMT
I really don't understand how that deck can be 9500 power. Maybe IGG messed up what's Wight and whats Wight Knights.
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 13, 2016 10:32:34 GMT
I really don't understand how that deck can be 9500 power. Maybe IGG messed up what's Wight and whats Wight Knights. Remember that runes are a fair chunk of your power and none of your Gauntlet opponents have runes equipped - Thank God.
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Post by ℜ★God on Apr 13, 2016 10:34:37 GMT
I really don't understand how that deck can be 9500 power. Maybe IGG messed up what's Wight and whats Wight Knights. Remember that runes are a fair chunk of your power and none of your Gauntlet opponents have runes equipped - Thank God. You're welcome.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 13, 2016 10:35:51 GMT
Yeah, my deck power is 12068, but i have not come across any really nasty decks like those sonbalin. Initially the deck power skew from runes was a pain, but now that things have settled down, and the opposing decks have no runes, its reasonably easy for me, and possibly part of the reason for all the Wight decks? The worst that happens to me is when i lose a critter due to the low starting enemy hero HP not giving me time to rec/rev
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Post by kvasac on Apr 13, 2016 10:46:50 GMT
I know for runes, but still have you seen those crits? I would kill for that deck and no runes right away.
Here is 9500 example from my arena: Dragon Rider lv7 Rec HB, Rec SM, Disposal Royal Dragon, 2x Frostacle, Drone, Mystic, FA Juggernaut, FA Royal Knight, LS Techno So 9 x 4* creature melded and 1 x 5*expensive
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Oceanus/Armageddon (can't remember) 4 x ordinary 5, 3 x expensive 5*, 3 x high end 4*
Runed or not, these shouldn't be same power decks.
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 13, 2016 11:06:39 GMT
I know for runes, but still have you seen those crits? I would kill for that deck and no runes right away. Here is 9500 example from my arena: Dragon Rider lv7 Rec HB, Rec SM, Disposal Royal Dragon, 2x Frostacle, Drone, Mystic, FA Juggernaut, FA Royal Knight, LS Techno So 9 x 4* creature melded and 1 x 5*expensive vs Oceanus/Armageddon (can't remember) 4 x ordinary 5, 3 x expensive 5*, 3 x high end 4* Runed or not, these shouldn't be same power decks. Hero + Hero Talent level plays a big role in Deck Power too. When I went from a level 8 Predator to a level 1 Judgement I think my Deck Power dropped by about 1000. As for creatures, consider the following comparison: FA Oracle, level 15 (obviously), level 6 Bless rune, Level Healer rune - Power 792 Paragon, Level 15, no runes - Power 794 Cancer, Level 15, no runes - Power 841 Sagittarius, level 15, no runes - Power 895 Recycle HB, level 15 (obviously), Level 5 Vitality V rune, level 9 Healer rune - Power 997 So a melded Oracle with bad runes is almost identical in power to an evolved/melded Paragon without runes. A melded HB with just 2 decent runes is massively more expensive than an evolved/melded Zodiac card without runes. Food for thought for those trying to keep their Deck Power low.
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Post by kvasac on Apr 13, 2016 11:11:55 GMT
Thanks for this It's just not logical to me, but that's how it is. Thank god for Sac creatures though
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Apr 13, 2016 11:14:37 GMT
I know for runes, but still have you seen those crits? I would kill for that deck and no runes right away. Here is 9500 example from my arena: Dragon Rider lv7 Rec HB, Rec SM, Disposal Royal Dragon, 2x Frostacle, Drone, Mystic, FA Juggernaut, FA Royal Knight, LS Techno So 9 x 4* creature melded and 1 x 5*expensive vs Oceanus/Armageddon (can't remember) 4 x ordinary 5, 3 x expensive 5*, 3 x high end 4* Runed or not, these shouldn't be same power decks. Agree, IGG's attempt to standardize by deck power is a bit pony. Thx for my new word of the week btw, FROSTACLES!!!
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Post by pypy on Apr 14, 2016 10:02:36 GMT
Been busy lately, but tried now and ugh this guy is such a luckbox...one disposal-reanimate of Venom Queen got him the win when I had him down to 2500 hp...and I started with 4000 hp Wight of my own. Managed to kill off 1 recycler and 2 hellwolves, should be easier now. His deck is way too slow tho
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Post by dhinstructables on Apr 14, 2016 15:52:59 GMT
Yes and it's not realistic. If he has only one reviver sure, but if there is a reviver + 2 recycles he would have to sac one of them AND kill you before he manages to play one of the other recyclers and just get it back. Asgarth tells you good. Yesterday I had 9500?!?!? power opponent: Sac Pit Dragon, Sac Twins, RQT, HB rec2, Mimir Revive, Bloodletter Revive, Paragon, Cancer, Sagitarius, and 1 more (YoushiYoshi_WK), something like that. You just play 1* hero and 3* creature. If he gets in 1st 3 cards Sac and Reviver, just play your creature. He eats recycler, kills your critter and you got 1 less. I do it every gauntlet I am stuck. AND IT IS DOABLE. If no sac's then just use Instakill or disposal like this. 1 card, 1* hero. Because that Power scale is a joke. That deck is 9500 power, while my wight disposal deck is 10700 power. Like What the hell. And my deck is like 2 diposal wolfs, instakill harb, 2 HB rec, and vanilla Pit, Terror, Graboid... I'd also like to confirm this strategy. I use it a lot and have a lot of 1* Heroes just for this.
I've taken down decks that have had 3x Recycle 1 and 1x Revive in them with a Sac card. It may take a while and a lot of repeating but it works.
The decks that I hate using this strategy are a lot of Disposals (have to use Stoneskin then) and a lot of Rebirth/Undying. So annoying watching Sac take out a recycler and it pops back out. However, just rinse and repeat.
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