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Post by mightymyn on Apr 15, 2016 15:26:26 GMT
hi all, i ask myself a question for a long time and with the next meldday in europe it's getting hot for my oracle i own 4 FA 5 oracles and a mythril drone. now i think about an immunity 9 oracle but i dont see the big necessarity for it. i prefer a 5th FA oracle atm but maybe some of the theorycrafter or experienced players can enlighten me and give me some feedback thx folks and gl with your drops all around
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Post by ℜ★God on Apr 15, 2016 15:36:20 GMT
I think im9 on an Oracle is overkill. Im7 works just fine ^~^
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Post by dhinstructables on Apr 15, 2016 15:59:07 GMT
If you have 4 Frostacles, I would meld 1 or 2 Immunity ones. But as God has spoken... I7 works fine for what their use is.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Apr 16, 2016 2:58:42 GMT
With all the changes I think FA Oracle is always > Immunity now.
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Post by GC NeoSephiroth on Apr 16, 2016 6:14:31 GMT
Ive 1 but its not so good anymore so im gonna give that immu 9 to someone else when i need that
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Post by Yuna on Apr 16, 2016 8:36:44 GMT
I'm lacking Ursa Majors at the moment. Would Frost Armor 5 suffice for Oracle or should I just wait 'til I get more Ursa Majors (I only meld on Meld Days)?
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Post by Gunnerkiller [βκ] on Apr 16, 2016 8:46:35 GMT
I'm lacking Ursa Majors at the moment. Would Frost Armor 5 suffice for Oracle or should I just wait 'til I get more Ursa Majors (I only meld on Meld Days)? FA5 is more than enough for Oracles, even FA3 works fine for them. The difference is minimal.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 16, 2016 10:07:29 GMT
I'm lacking Ursa Majors at the moment. Would Frost Armor 5 suffice for Oracle or should I just wait 'til I get more Ursa Majors (I only meld on Meld Days)? FA5 is more than enough for Oracles, even FA3 works fine for them. The difference is minimal. Alrighty then. Then I'm all set for the next meld Day. 5 FA Oracles, 4 Recycle 2 Horned Beasts, 4 Retreat QTs, here I come!
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 16, 2016 10:45:45 GMT
Jesus, you're gonna break the meld event or something.
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Post by mightymyn on Apr 16, 2016 15:54:11 GMT
thx all for the replies, i think i7 is enough for my oracle. i read that michael is a good target for i9. atm i'm stuck at 11-11 so i can't farm him. are there any other good targets for i9 out there? got FA 5 naga mistress , maybe i should take another i9 one? i concentrate my efforts on guildmaps atm cause my guild are only 3 members online every day, and i'm thinking to leave once again... so my experienced friends out there, is it worth to meld i9 on naga mistress? i hope i'm not to nervy
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 16, 2016 16:08:25 GMT
There are only 2 solid, long term 4* candidates for I9 IMO - Naga and Michael. Valkyrie isn't the worst option but she's nowhere near as good as those two.
Plenty of 5*s would make better targets for I9 but having enough copies to meld them is unlikely if you're not past Map 11 and in a bad Guild.
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Post by nemesis101 on Apr 17, 2016 5:05:08 GMT
I've an Oracle with Immunity 9 and I must say it's better than Oracle with Immunity 7. Still I only use it for Guild Maps and Grimoire. I'm going to Meld it away as well.
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Post by Yuna on Apr 17, 2016 5:39:11 GMT
Jesus, you're gonna break the meld event or something. I kind of already did. Last time, I got 5 Melds (out of 8 or 9) on the very first try, one of which was a 5-star creature (Libra) I only had 2 extra copies of. I was just doing it for the expertize and WHAM, Frost Blade 10 Libra. By the way, I was a fit unclear. I already have 1 FA Oracle, 2 Recycle 2 HBs and 2 Retreat QTs. I'll be melding for 4, 2 and 2 extra copies of them.
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Post by dunalar on Apr 26, 2016 17:58:11 GMT
I think i9 on oracle is always far better choise then anything else in the game from following reasons: FA can be given by hero e.g. Dragon rider, Imunity 9 prevents Oracle from being killed, disposed, freezed, locked etc => purpose for oracle is healing, healing and healing. Although you have no Human hero, if you place it far right, how can be killed? Another thought - FA can be penetrated by Bullseye. What do you then with killed oracle?
btw just imagine the situation against disposal decks or magic decks where you have e.g. 2-3 Oracle I9, 2-3 Horned beast I7 with recycle 1/2, as many as possible Fafnir :-) and Great Mystic (agree very rare to get them, but 1-2 realistic). Fafnir for sure as it can come up from Guild -> if you are extremly unlucky :-). I cannot think realistickly killing this deck. Maybe I am wrong and still inexperienced :-)
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Post by dhinstructables on Apr 26, 2016 18:33:33 GMT
I think i9 on oracle is always far better choise then anything else in the game from following reasons: FA can be given by hero e.g. Dragon rider, Imunity 9 prevents Oracle from being killed, disposed, freezed, locked etc => purpose for oracle is healing, healing and healing. Although you have no Human hero, if you place it far right, how can be killed? Another thought - FA can be penetrated by Bullseye. What do you then with killed oracle? btw just imagine the situation against disposal decks or magic decks where you have e.g. 2-3 Oracle I9, 2-3 Horned beast I7 with recycle 1/2, as many as possible Fafnir :-) and Great Mystic (agree very rare to get them, but 1-2 realistic). Fafnir for sure as it can come up from Guild -> if you are extremly unlucky :-). I cannot think realistickly killing this deck. Maybe I am wrong and still inexperienced :-) Ok, it's an interesting thought and can have benefits for sure.
I just want to comment that FA Oracle is MVP against most Guild Maps. Here are my Reasons: - Hero Given "FA" only lasts for 1 round, then it's gone. GM Battles should last 100 rounds
- Most Players will be using many Oracles with a Mythril Drone; Most Lockdown prevented & Little left doesn't matter much
- On a full GM, there is no far right; only death
- Not a lot of Bullseye on GM, so we don't worry about it
Also, a lot (most?) players will begin to remove Oracles from their main decks has they acquire better cards that can do more than just heal. So I would say that by the time you can have 2-3 Oracles with I9, you would probably only put 1 in the deck anyway. If you like I9 Oracles, make some for yourself. It's your game. But for most players and their main purpose for Oracles, FA will work better.
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Post by dunalar on Apr 26, 2016 20:29:03 GMT
I have to agree to your point from this side, but this is exactly the reason majority people will not use oracle with I9 so you can benefit from it. If majority people uses FA with Oracles, they get kick from killing/disposal/hero killing/freezing or lock-down decks. I am only lv55 with 3 Oracles one melded with I9 and second is ongoing, but I lost majority of my games only with these :-(. Very rare with non-magic decks.
I thing the best value is 2 oracles which heal your heroe and creatures, but persist nearly till end of game. In addition damage can be avoided by Cave dragon, Criple etc so damage to oracles is little or none. Blocking magic by Mythril Drone takes ages to harvest, unless you have unlimited bag of gems :-)
In guild maps is combination of all. I would say for some enemies are better Oracles with FA, but also I9. I7 is waste of Hornet beast :-)
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Post by sonbalin on Apr 28, 2016 17:52:39 GMT
I have to agree to your point from this side, but this is exactly the reason majority people will not use oracle with I9 so you can benefit from it. If majority people uses FA with Oracles, they get kick from killing/disposal/hero killing/freezing or lock-down decks. I am only lv55 with 3 Oracles one melded with I9 and second is ongoing, but I lost majority of my games only with these :-(. Very rare with non-magic decks. I thing the best value is 2 oracles which heal your heroe and creatures, but persist nearly till end of game. In addition damage can be avoided by Cave dragon, Criple etc so damage to oracles is little or none. Blocking magic by Mythril Drone takes ages to harvest, unless you have unlimited bag of gems :-) In guild maps is combination of all. I would say for some enemies are better Oracles with FA, but also I9. I7 is waste of Hornet beast :-) It's much faster to farm a HB for I7 than it is any card for I9.
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Post by dunalar on Apr 28, 2016 18:59:32 GMT
True, but imunity 7 is not that good as imunity 9. 3x tempest X and you are locked nearly every turn. Secondly farming HB for imunity is not as good as Spider queen. I see more values with HB, rather than SQ. But all depends on your strategy and available cards. I saw few decks with 3 SQ as well.
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Post by sblip on Apr 29, 2016 1:31:27 GMT
For my GM deck I have 5 FA oracles and 1 i7. After acquiring Drone, won't be doing any more immunity oracles.. drone takes care of that.
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Post by ℜ★God on Apr 29, 2016 3:03:42 GMT
I would farm for a Drone, but leveling my Spirit Arbiter is more important.
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Post by sblip on Apr 29, 2016 7:04:18 GMT
i won't know in the short run if it would have been better to keep saving for SA .. but i can definitely say that I have seen immediate results from drone in Arena, Tourny, and GM. I also finished off sea wizard at the same time, who's shards i'd had around since the last trials/whatever that gave them... basically destroyed my stash of ore. At least I didn't spend any gems. Also, went from around 100ish in Arena to 40, which is not something I care about that much, but is definitely evidence that main deck is stronger. Maybe can beat Trials 90 now as well...
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Post by dunalar on Apr 29, 2016 9:12:15 GMT
I will use some smart way :-) having 2 Oracles with FA & I9. I don't see any other value of Spider queen, so a bit useless. As long as it gives I9 for my other creatures...
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Post by ℜ★God on Apr 29, 2016 9:14:15 GMT
I highly recommend against putting i9 onto an Oracle.
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Post by sblip on Apr 30, 2016 4:58:34 GMT
spider queen is situationally useful against archdevas on Guild Maps.. obviously not nearly as good as a FA graboid, but unless you have 3 of those already.. anyway main point is: if you have Drone, don't put i9 on oracle. make more FA oracles. You should have at least 4 for guild maps. </opinion>
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Post by dunalar on Apr 30, 2016 13:45:17 GMT
Thanks, I gave up actually on Spider queen actually (6 turns is bad). Interesting thing, my oracle retained 8 first, second 10 rounds, where my all Horned Beast each max 2-3 rounds till the bad Archiva took them out :-(. I hate retrieve. Honestly this is far worst skill in the game as it repeates every turn - especially in guild maps. While disposal or instant kill is one way. You would need to be super (un)lucky to face 10x Disp. or Ikill, while with 2 archivas each 5x is very likely to happen - especially in Guild maps.
Re: Drone, once I get it - I will use it :-) with the Oracles FA, but I have so far 15 shard only. I didn't spend single coin and want to continue this way - not event star
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Post by sblip on Apr 30, 2016 15:25:01 GMT
Again, Frost Armor or blood sap graboid in front of archdeva. Anything with FA and stoneskin really, but graboid has the added benefit of ravage.
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