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Post by fotgs on May 12, 2016 20:53:14 GMT
If the enemy has Mythril Drone in play, if I place an Instakill crit, like Hellwolf, will my instakill trigger or not? Is it considered magic skill?
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Post by lordmateo on May 12, 2016 21:03:30 GMT
it's definitely not a magic skill.. i don't think there's any skill considered as magic skill, that doesn't deal some kind of dmg..
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Post by fotgs on May 12, 2016 21:14:15 GMT
Are you 100% sure on this? I also though that it has to deal magic dmg to be considered magic skill, but with IGG you never know. Plus, instakilling someone sounds like magic to me, lol
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Post by Yuna on May 12, 2016 21:19:42 GMT
it's definitely not a magic skill.. i don't think there's any skill considered as magic skill, that doesn't deal some kind of dmg.. Pyre does not, on its own, inflict damage, it simply inflicts Burning status, yet Spellbinder blocks it.
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Post by icezaius on May 12, 2016 22:16:13 GMT
it's definitely not a magic skill.. i don't think there's any skill considered as magic skill, that doesn't deal some kind of dmg.. Pyre does not, on its own, inflict damage, it simply inflicts Burning status, yet Spellbinder blocks it. blaze does that, but you're right that its blocked by drone.
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Post by NFS✪Pagan on May 12, 2016 22:32:53 GMT
I think if you play Icy Mage its Tempest ability activates when played even if Drone is in play, so I think even if Instakill were a magic skill it would still activate when played.
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Post by Yuna on May 12, 2016 22:40:03 GMT
Pyre does not, on its own, inflict damage, it simply inflicts Burning status, yet Spellbinder blocks it. blaze does that, but you're right that its blocked by drone. Whoops, yeah, got Flame Brave's skills names mixed up.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 12, 2016 23:01:32 GMT
All magic skills do some type of magic DMG. Pyre, Tempest, Soul Swap, Meteor, Incinerate, Thor's Rage, Cloudburst, Ice Arrow, Bolt, Rain Dance.... Those are just the ones that I can remember. There's probably more. The only odd one that doesn't deal magic DMG, but is still blocked by Spellbinder is Blaze.
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Post by fotgs on May 12, 2016 23:42:21 GMT
Hm.. Still didn't get an answer to my question. You should all be in politics, you're great at avoiding answering the main question by digressing Let's put it this way, maybe someone made this test: The enemy played Mythril Drone and after this, I play an Instakill creature. Will this kill Mythril Drone or not?
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Post by ozzy on May 12, 2016 23:47:18 GMT
Mythril blocks Blaze but Blaze doesn't activate Spiky Bits, sure there's something odd here but why is everyone saying Blaze doesn't deal damage? You mean it doesn't say 'magic damage' in the description, right? If we are looking for odd magic skills, I think Dragon's Immolation would be another. It activates Spiky Bits but Mythril doesn't block it.
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Post by ozzy on May 12, 2016 23:48:56 GMT
Hm.. Still didn't get an answer to my question. You should all be in politics, you're great at avoiding answering the main question by digressing Let's put it this way, maybe someone made this test: The enemy played Mythril Drone and after this, I play an Instakill creature. Will this kill Mythril Drone or not? If Instakill targets Mythril and Mythril doesn't activate his Immunity 8, yeah it will kill him.
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Post by Yuna on May 12, 2016 23:51:11 GMT
Mithril blocks Blaze but Blaze doesn't activate Spiky Bits, sure there's something odd here but why is everyone saying Blaze doesn't deal damage? You mean it doesn't say 'magic damage' in the description, right? If we are looking for odd magic skills, I think Dragon's Immolation would be another. It activates Spiky Bits but Mithril doesn't block it. Because Blaze doesn't inflict any damage. Watch as Blaze activates. No damage is given out. What Blaze does is inflict all enemy creatures who do not nullify it with immunity (or Spellbinder) with Flaming, which is a status effect, that causes creatures to lose HP after their action. Blaze does not inflict that damage, however, Flaming does.
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Post by Yuna on May 12, 2016 23:52:08 GMT
Hm.. Still didn't get an answer to my question. You should all be in politics, you're great at avoiding answering the main question by digressing Let's put it this way, maybe someone made this test: The enemy played Mythril Drone and after this, I play an Instakill creature. Will this kill Mythril Drone or not? This is not the question you originally asked. "If the enemy has Mythril Drone in play, if I place an Instakill crit, like Hellwolf, w ill my instakill trigger or not? Is it considered magic skill?" - And we did a very good job of answering those 2 questions.
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Post by ozzy on May 12, 2016 23:57:49 GMT
Mithril blocks Blaze but Blaze doesn't activate Spiky Bits, sure there's something odd here but why is everyone saying Blaze doesn't deal damage? You mean it doesn't say 'magic damage' in the description, right? If we are looking for odd magic skills, I think Dragon's Immolation would be another. It activates Spiky Bits but Mithril doesn't block it. Because Blaze doesn't inflict any damage. Watch as Blaze activates. No damage is given out. What Blaze does is inflict all enemy creatures who do not nullify it with immunity (or Spellbinder) with Flaming, which is a status effect, that causes creatures to lose HP after their action. Blaze does not inflict that damage, however, Flaming does. Really?? Then it's Burn , not Flaming
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Post by ℜ★God on May 13, 2016 0:21:07 GMT
Hm.. Still didn't get an answer to my question. You should all be in politics, you're great at avoiding answering the main question by digressing Let's put it this way, maybe someone made this test: The enemy played Mythril Drone and after this, I play an Instakill creature. Will this kill Mythril Drone or not? 1) This was not your original question XD 2) My answer to this question: Besides MD's Immunity 8, why wouldn't it?
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Post by Yuna on May 13, 2016 0:41:30 GMT
Because Blaze doesn't inflict any damage. Watch as Blaze activates. No damage is given out. What Blaze does is inflict all enemy creatures who do not nullify it with immunity (or Spellbinder) with Flaming, which is a status effect, that causes creatures to lose HP after their action. Blaze does not inflict that damage, however, Flaming does. Really?? Then it's Burn , not Flaming The description of Blaze reads as follows: "Inflicts ' Flaming' upon all enemy Creatures, causing them to lose 20-200 (20 x Rank) HP after their action." It should be noted, though, that Sneak activates against Flaming and its description does not mention Flaming, only Burn (and there are currently no skills that inflict Burn).
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Post by Yuna on May 13, 2016 0:50:08 GMT
There might be some Hero Abilities where the description states that the status effect Burn is inflicted, but there is, as far as I know, no Creature Skill that has that at the moment. It is likely IGG originally called the status effect either Flaming or Burn and then changed their mind and changed it to the other and missing a few instances.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 13, 2016 1:11:50 GMT
Kind of confusing when both "Flaming" and "Burn" are in the game, but they both do the exact same thing. Way to go, IGG.
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Post by ozzy on May 13, 2016 7:47:12 GMT
There might be some Hero Abilities where the description states that the status effect Burn is inflicted, but there is, as far as I know, no Creature Skill that has that at the moment. It is likely IGG originally called the status effect either Flaming or Burn and then changed their mind and changed it to the other and missing a few instances. Try to read skill descriptions in game not from wiki or anything, currently only flaming I see is the rune, the rest is called burn. Anyway, I still don't understand why 'inflicting Burn' can't be categorized as a magic skill that deals damage according to you.
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Post by Yuna on May 13, 2016 8:02:14 GMT
There might be some Hero Abilities where the description states that the status effect Burn is inflicted, but there is, as far as I know, no Creature Skill that has that at the moment. It is likely IGG originally called the status effect either Flaming or Burn and then changed their mind and changed it to the other and missing a few instances. Try to read skill descriptions in game not from wiki or anything, currently only flaming I see is the rune, the rest is called burn. Anyway, I still don't understand why 'inflicting Burn' can't be categorized as a magic skill that deals damage according to you. Then my guess that it was originally called one thing before changing its name to another is correct. It was originally called Flaming, but the developers changed it to Burn. It's faster for me to read stuff on the Wikia instead of having to go into the game to check them. Why not consider Blaze a skill that inflicts damage? Because the skill Blaze does not inflict damage. It inflicts a status effect. The status effect is what inflicts burn. These are two separate, albeit connected, things. It's like Scorpio's Impale. It leaves behind a Status Effect that continually inflicts damage, even if Scorpio (or in Blaze's case, Flame Brave) dies. What is inflicting that continual damage is not Blaze or Scorpio's Basic Attack, it's the Status Effects they leave behind. It's kind of like the difference between if I shoot you in the head and kill you immediately or I shoot you in the chest and the bullet is lodged in such a way that it cannot be removed and 10 years later, it's traveled to your heart and you die from it. Both deaths would be as a result from me shooting you, but the causes of death would be different.
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Post by ozzy on May 13, 2016 8:12:22 GMT
'Magic skills that deal damage' is in Drone's spellbinder description and 'inflicts Burn, causing to lose hp' is in Blaze description. So Blaze = inflicting burn => causes hp loss => deals damage Why not
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Post by komainu on May 16, 2016 19:18:57 GMT
The only magic skills that drone doesn't cover are the ones with an [s[ and maybe even [d[ at the start.. Flame Mage's Pyre 4 is triggered for example when it comes into play.. other than that it's useless vs drone. I don't know if skills like Meteor Rain or simular [d[ trigger.. but I doubt they actually do as [s[ is triggered before the combat phase and [d[ durring.
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Post by Soul Weaver on Oct 15, 2017 10:59:32 GMT
Mythril only spillbinds a creature after they cast their (s) skill which explains why icy mage and flame mage can cast (s) tempest and (s) pyre
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Oct 16, 2017 8:04:33 GMT
Necromancer spotted. 😂
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Post by Soul Weaver on Oct 16, 2017 15:30:16 GMT
Lol sorry, I had no idea this thread was so old xD
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