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Post by bleblublabliblo on May 25, 2016 11:37:25 GMT
I have never acquire 4+ star cards from GUANTLET and MAZES.. But about 80% succesfull COUPON drops and BOOSTER.. So am starting to think its account based..
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Post by Yuna on May 25, 2016 11:47:38 GMT
It's most likely timing-based but the timing is in the milliseconds. No computer program has yet to be programmed with true randomness, it's merely many, many, many algorithms to simulate randomness, so it's really out of our hands.
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Post by StackMasta on May 25, 2016 16:07:47 GMT
It's most likely timing-based but the timing is in the milliseconds. No computer program has yet to be programmed with true randomness, it's merely many, many, many algorithms to simulate randomness, so it's really out of our hands. Pretty much what he said. I just watch system and when people are winning 5* i draw from coupons. I usually win 1-2 5* from 30-50 coupons. Pretty sure its the same with boosters and everything else. Thats what makes me think insight from transmutation doesnt do anything, when the 5* are supposed to drop, they will drop regardless of your insight.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 25, 2016 16:24:46 GMT
No matter how many times you or I mention sample size, it won't get through peoples' heads lol.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on May 25, 2016 16:39:56 GMT
No matter how many times you or I mention sample size, it won't get through peoples' heads lol. Yeah.... My Captivator shards still.. XD love to annoy you guys.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 25, 2016 16:54:13 GMT
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Post by voldrox [BK] on May 26, 2016 1:55:46 GMT
Curse me all you want, my vigor rune is high.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 26, 2016 1:57:40 GMT
Curse me all you want, my vigor rune is high.
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Post by sblip on May 26, 2016 6:36:41 GMT
sample size: me, voldrox, and a some other ppl. Determination: Captivator shards are available less often than other shards in the tourney mall. Chance my belief in this will be altered by studying statistics, probability, and number theory: 0%
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Post by ℜ★God on May 26, 2016 9:12:24 GMT
That's pretty close minded lol.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on May 26, 2016 10:34:38 GMT
I guess its a question nobody can fully answer for sure. I do believe my account has more luck with boosters though. But my luck sucks for everything else
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Post by voldrox [BK] on May 26, 2016 10:35:54 GMT
I really hate permutations & combinations and probability. I have repeated semesters because I failed in that particular course.
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Post by Yuna on May 26, 2016 12:16:51 GMT
It's most likely timing-based but the timing is in the milliseconds. No computer program has yet to be programmed with true randomness, it's merely many, many, many algorithms to simulate randomness, so it's really out of our hands. Pretty much what he said. I just watch system and when people are winning 5* i draw from coupons. I usually win 1-2 5* from 30-50 coupons. Pretty sure its the same with boosters and everything else. Thats what makes me think insight from transmutation doesnt do anything, when the 5* are supposed to drop, they will drop regardless of your insight. No, not how the game works. You don't get better luck by buying stuff around the time other people pull good stuff, that' just confirmation bias. The game "randomizes" things by the milliseconds, thousandths of a second. Say, 1 millisecond equals a Terror Dragon and 245 milliseconds equals an Aquarius. If you hit to buy a booster at 1 millisecond you get a Terror dragon, if you hit it at 245 milliseconds, an Aquarius.
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Post by StackMasta on May 26, 2016 14:05:20 GMT
Pretty much what he said. I just watch system and when people are winning 5* i draw from coupons. I usually win 1-2 5* from 30-50 coupons. Pretty sure its the same with boosters and everything else. Thats what makes me think insight from transmutation doesnt do anything, when the 5* are supposed to drop, they will drop regardless of your insight. No, not how the game works. You don't get better luck by buying stuff around the time other people pull good stuff, that' just confirmation bias. The game "randomizes" things by the milliseconds, thousandths of a second. Say, 1 millisecond equals a Terror Dragon and 245 milliseconds equals an Aquarius. If you hit to buy a booster at 1 millisecond you get a Terror dragon, if you hit it at 245 milliseconds, an Aquarius. I wouldnt call it better luck, i would call it better timing. Ive tried using 100 coupons and never got anything good but when i tried using the method, i would get 1-2 5* from those 30 to 50 coupons and sometimes only the 1st 10 coupons only. From my experience and other peoples experience this is what i believe. You can say it randomizes but i think it randomizes to do multiple drops then stops for a random amount of time. I could be wrong, maybe you've worked on these type of games programming before?
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Post by Yuna on May 26, 2016 14:42:53 GMT
No, not how the game works. You don't get better luck by buying stuff around the time other people pull good stuff, that' just confirmation bias. The game "randomizes" things by the milliseconds, thousandths of a second. Say, 1 millisecond equals a Terror Dragon and 245 milliseconds equals an Aquarius. If you hit to buy a booster at 1 millisecond you get a Terror dragon, if you hit it at 245 milliseconds, an Aquarius. I wouldnt call it better luck, i would call it better timing. Ive tried using 100 coupons and never got anything good but when i tried using the method, i would get 1-2 5* from those 30 to 50 coupons and sometimes only the 1st 10 coupons only. From my experience and other peoples experience this is what i believe. You can say it randomizes but i think it randomizes to do multiple drops then stops for a random amount of time. I could be wrong, maybe you've worked on these type of games programming before? That is literally confirmation bias at work. "Ive tried using 100 coupons and never got anything good but when i tried using the method, i would get 1-2 5* from those 30 to 50 coupons and sometimes only the 1st 10 coupons only". The problem is that you're ignoring all of the times you're not deriving any luck from your purported patter and assigning too much weight to the times you did. "I two days ago, I did 100 Coupon draws when people were really lucky with coupon draws and got nothing good, today, when I saw people getting tons of good stuff from coupon draws, I did 100 coupon draws and got 3 5-star creatures. It must mean that if you do coupon draws when people are having good fortune with coupon draws, you'll pull more 5-star creatures." You're ignoring the countless times when the pattern doesn't hold while telling yourself that there really is a pattern.
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Post by StackMasta on May 26, 2016 14:57:35 GMT
I wouldnt call it better luck, i would call it better timing. Ive tried using 100 coupons and never got anything good but when i tried using the method, i would get 1-2 5* from those 30 to 50 coupons and sometimes only the 1st 10 coupons only. From my experience and other peoples experience this is what i believe. You can say it randomizes but i think it randomizes to do multiple drops then stops for a random amount of time. I could be wrong, maybe you've worked on these type of games programming before? That is literally confirmation bias at work. "Ive tried using 100 coupons and never got anything good but when i tried using the method, i would get 1-2 5* from those 30 to 50 coupons and sometimes only the 1st 10 coupons only". The problem is that you're ignoring all of the times you're not deriving any luck from your purported patter and assigning too much weight to the times you did. "I two days ago, I did 100 Coupon draws when people were really lucky with coupon draws and got nothing good, today, when I saw people getting tons of good stuff from coupon draws, I did 100 coupon draws and got 3 5-star creatures. It must mean that if you do coupon draws when people are having good fortune with coupon draws, you'll pull more 5-star creatures." You're ignoring the countless times when the pattern doesn't hold while telling yourself that there really is a pattern. Like i said unless you know how the programming works in this game, you could be wrong or right. I just always hear people complaining about not getting 5* from coupon draws and when i try the method, i get 5* about 80%-90% of the time. I dont really believe in luck and im just sticking to what works for me. Another thing to take into consideration is to not do this method when you see guests winning 5* because that is misleading. New accounts are guaranteed 5* on there 1st 5x altar draw.
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Post by Yuna on May 26, 2016 15:03:42 GMT
This is literally how all programming works when there's randomness involved. Also, ask yourself this: Why would any game based on randomized draws from a gachapon element program in a predictable algorithm, with random bursts of Happy Hour? That would hurt their income. As soon as someone spots a Happy Hour, everyone can just draw during that time and get what they need pretty cheaply. There is literally absolutely nor reason for IGG to do this.
But, whatever, I'm sure IGG has created a special little system that required extra work to make it easier for people to predict when good s*** drops so that IGG will make less money. I'm sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 15:28:45 GMT
I have never acquire 4+ star cards from GUANTLET and MAZES.. But about 80% succesfull COUPON drops and BOOSTER.. So am starting to think its account based.. The entire game is account based... Bank account based.
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Post by StackMasta on May 26, 2016 15:34:40 GMT
This is literally how all programming works when there's randomness involved. Also, ask yourself this: Why would any game based on randomized draws from a gachapon element program in a predictable algorithm, with random bursts of Happy Hour? That would hurt their income. As soon as someone spots a Happy Hour, everyone can just draw during that time and get what they need pretty cheaply. There is literally absolutely nor reason for IGG to do this. But, whatever, I'm sure IGG has created a special little system that required extra work to make it easier for people to predict when good s*** drops so that IGG will make less money. I'm sure. Well they made it easier by having it announced when people win 5* cards. I don't agree with you or disagree with you. I just do what works for me. Ive played another game called elemental kingdom before, a copy of this game or this game copied that one. I've played that game a year or so a long time ago. Well i had the same problem as a newbie, not getting 5* from coupon draws. When i started the method, i started getting 5* a lot more often then. I started playing deck heroes and saved 100 coupons and got nothing, then i remembered when i used to play elemental kindgdoms and tried the method and works for me 80%-90% of the time. I get alot of new people in my guild that say they never get 5* from coupons and they spend a 100 coupons too. I tell them about the method and they tell me they get a 5* card with in 10-50 coupons. This is just from my experience and other peoples experience i know.
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Post by jas on May 27, 2016 14:38:52 GMT
Well !!! Talking about luck, I kept saving gems for a long long time (and purchasing $99) whenever a nice event will shoot (buy $99 and get 40% free etc) I saved more than 100k Gems… yes i'm serious I had more than 100k gems…. All for just 1 hope… to find one of the three famous creatures with recycle 2.. I want the skill recycle 2 so bad it is the only missing factor in my deck… (and I wanted 2 to 3 of these creators) so I can meld the skill into Hornd beast…… well when I saw the event today that Dahila is in the Altar (with increased draw rate).. I spent all of my GEMS more than 100k gems in under 1-2 hours (had to clear my creatures cuz it kept getting full) all I got is 1 Pisces……
Sample size …. True story
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Post by fotgs on May 27, 2016 14:41:09 GMT
Wow.. that's sad.. if only there was an Undo button
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Post by ℜ★God on May 27, 2016 14:43:40 GMT
Just go back in time fam ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Post by Yuna on May 27, 2016 15:42:25 GMT
Well !!! Talking about luck, I kept saving gems for a long long time (and purchasing $99) whenever a nice event will shoot (buy $99 and get 40% free etc) I saved more than 100k Gems… yes i'm serious I had more than 100k gems…. All for just 1 hope… to find one of the three famous creatures with recycle 2.. I want the skill recycle 2 so bad it is the only missing factor in my deck… (and I wanted 2 to 3 of these creators) so I can meld the skill into Hornd beast…… well when I saw the event today that Dahila is in the Altar (with increased draw rate).. I spent all of my GEMS more than 100k gems in under 1-2 hours (had to clear my creatures cuz it kept getting full) all I got is 1 Pisces…… Sample size …. True story Don't invoke at the Altar. The rates are horrible. Much, much, much worse than boosters. If you desperate for a Recycle 2, open Ultima Chests during Lost Relics. Eventually, Hippolyta will grace you with her presence.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on May 27, 2016 15:51:50 GMT
*salutes* We will remember your sacrifice, now we know how bad altar can be. You have been a brave soldier.
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Post by StackMasta on May 27, 2016 18:16:25 GMT
Well !!! Talking about luck, I kept saving gems for a long long time (and purchasing $99) whenever a nice event will shoot (buy $99 and get 40% free etc) I saved more than 100k Gems… yes i'm serious I had more than 100k gems…. All for just 1 hope… to find one of the three famous creatures with recycle 2.. I want the skill recycle 2 so bad it is the only missing factor in my deck… (and I wanted 2 to 3 of these creators) so I can meld the skill into Hornd beast…… well when I saw the event today that Dahila is in the Altar (with increased draw rate).. I spent all of my GEMS more than 100k gems in under 1-2 hours (had to clear my creatures cuz it kept getting full) all I got is 1 Pisces…… Sample size …. True story Dam, that really sucks. I hate doing altar and booster packs. Maybe i just have terrible luck. Ive been wanting to try the method i do with coupons but i dont have gems to be freely spending them on boosters haha. Maybe after next alice bond i can do this to report how it goes. Honestly you probably should have just did the gold mine to 1st chest only with all those gems. I think its a win win situation where you will be collecting 5* shards, get tons of ore, and have that slight chance of getting a full 5* card from the gold chest. Also this pretty much supports my bias that it doesnt matter how much you spend. Its all about timing and buying at the right time. What i would have done is watch system chat like i always do for coupons, when i 1st see someone win 5* card, start buying multiple packs. If i dont win anything within a few packs, lets say about 10-15 packs. I would have just stop until the next batch of 5* cards drop. I think though this would be hard to do as these 5* cards drop from the altar and not limited booster packs. The people getting 5* cards could also be from using coupons and could be very misleading.
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