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Post by nowar on May 31, 2016 4:31:31 GMT
Hi all,
I've seen people meld Fatigue 8 into horned beasts (some meld FA into cave dragon) in various decks, but I doubt the effectiveness of that card. I have cave dragon copies but I'm not sure is it even worthy to meld.
The reason is, around my rank(level 80++) people are having high damage creatures. So reducing 80 attack for 1 round is just a scratch. BTW cave dragon/melded HB will not survive more than 2-3 rounds.
So at max it could reduce 80x3 = 240 attack, and it's not a big deal.
I'm just wondering, is there anyone who has experience with Fatigue 8 meld in their decks?
Did anyone really get it to work successfully?
Thanks!
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Post by ZanderX10 on May 31, 2016 4:35:07 GMT
A guy named steffy in my arena floating around rank 12 has a fat8 HB in his deck still and let me tell ya, it procs more than 3x.
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Post by ZanderX10 on May 31, 2016 4:36:35 GMT
A guy named steffy in my arena floating around rank 12 has a fat8 HB in his deck still and let me tell ya, it procs more than 3x. And by "still" I mean my arena is accounts created at the end of 2014. Jaberou is #1.
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Post by sblip on May 31, 2016 5:01:26 GMT
The short answer is that no, it is no longer useful since they nerfed it on Guild MAPS (They owe me some damned HB's from that still) The long answer is that maybe it could be useful in very specific circumstances against opponents with no immunity, but still no.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 31, 2016 5:25:05 GMT
Fatigue WAS worth melding, like a year ago. It's a useless skill now.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on May 31, 2016 5:41:56 GMT
Fat 8 HB is decent budget faen to trigger lightfoot until you get better. Buffing the fat rune to paralyze creatures whether they have higher atk or not helped quite a bit.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on May 31, 2016 5:45:35 GMT
Like unmelded SW tier or a little worse.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on May 31, 2016 6:14:21 GMT
I still use two of them to paralyse retreat QT. Only effective if you have fatigue rune.
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Post by corvin on May 31, 2016 6:49:49 GMT
I think it's still usable in alchemist deck.
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Post by asgarth1980 on May 31, 2016 9:05:29 GMT
I think it's still usable in alchemist deck. since u mention alchemist...abit off topic but will the critter affected by alchemist rage skill be taking damage if the hero "dodge" skill trigger through Lightfoot or group tactics?
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Post by corvin on May 31, 2016 11:27:04 GMT
I think it's still usable in alchemist deck. since u mention alchemist...abit off topic but will the critter affected by alchemist rage skill be taking damage if the hero "dodge" skill trigger through Lightfoot or group tactics? As I know dodge doesn't trigger melt armour.
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Post by NFS✪Sinister22 on May 31, 2016 13:14:29 GMT
depends if you have rune.. If no rune, I'll meld it to quetz.
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Post by justnr1k on May 31, 2016 18:19:22 GMT
If you have rune, then 1 hb with legarthy 8 is decent. But just that, nothing special. Not worth to have more than that.
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Post by maxp83 on May 31, 2016 18:40:01 GMT
I put it on Quatz kinda regret it
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Post by ℜ★God on May 31, 2016 19:05:33 GMT
Fortunately, the first GM nerf happened right before I started farming Quetz dupes. So I didn't make the same mistake.
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Post by sblip on May 31, 2016 21:40:49 GMT
speaking of Alchemist, I got another flame brave from a failed transmutation last night. That's 6 total now.
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Post by ℜ★God on May 31, 2016 22:32:40 GMT
You wanna know what I got out of a failed Transmutation today?
.....a Pit Lord >_>
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Post by nowar on Jun 2, 2016 3:34:50 GMT
Actually, I don't work on Transmutation, as it has a very low chance. My friend in guild tried 6 times and didn't get any. No thanks! I think I will stick with my 4* cards and little bit of gem I have. H ah ha
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Post by sblip on Jun 2, 2016 3:57:07 GMT
I don't spend gems on it, so my chances are really low, and I only use 4* crits i don't need copies of anymore (I already melded a light brave recycle) Spending gems on it would be a waste for sure. If you have 10 copies of each though, and no plans to meld them, might as well take the (very small) chance
Most of the cards aren't even that good, excluding Kitsune/Kumiho and .. can't remember what all is offered. Lord Bones and Easter Bunny aren't going to be used in your long term main deck still, must collect all the cards..
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jun 2, 2016 5:18:49 GMT
Seems like I get a success about 1 out of 30 for Kitsunes and 1 out of 15 for the double chances. Without insight.
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Post by aketto on Jun 7, 2016 13:30:12 GMT
Fatigue isn't such a bad skill. I got Fatigue 1 on my Blossoms(now it's upgraded to 6) and if you have the rune, actually it's pretty powerful skill. I have a lvl10 Fatigue rune and it's good
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Post by hibito on Jun 15, 2016 7:51:35 GMT
i got a fat8 with rune sentry angel in my warlord human tourny deck. beat a oceanus deck lately by reducing almost all enemy to 0 attack
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Post by nowar on Jun 17, 2016 3:08:22 GMT
Sounds, interesting, maybe I will try it when I get my Warlock. BTW, sentry angel has to survive at least 7-8 rounds to reduce 500 - 600 enemy damage. Kinda unlikely. If you know what I mean.
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Post by icezaius on Jun 17, 2016 16:39:20 GMT
Sounds, interesting, maybe I will try it when I get my Warlock. BTW, sentry angel has to survive at least 7-8 rounds to reduce 500 - 600 enemy damage. Kinda unlikely. If you know what I mean. not that unlikely with warlock. Especially with a heal amplify rune coupled with his restoration.
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Post by hibito on Jun 20, 2016 7:09:47 GMT
Sounds, interesting, maybe I will try it when I get my Warlock. BTW, sentry angel has to survive at least 7-8 rounds to reduce 500 - 600 enemy damage. Kinda unlikely. If you know what I mean. i have drone so no magic damage. sentry angel has frost armor and restoration. unless facing bulleyes creature, basically undieable.
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Post by nebiros✪NFS on Jun 20, 2016 12:51:43 GMT
I think it's still usable in alchemist deck. I have 2 HBs with Fatigue and lev 7 +8 lethargy runes in my alchemist deck. Lethargy is still bugged...for those who know what that means (hide from IGG) Fatigue 8 triggers melt armor (and may be used if enemy has a drone out). These two HBs have locked down 5-8 enemy cards for me many times or triggered melt armor alot. It is more than "usable".
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Post by vagou on Jun 21, 2016 6:00:26 GMT
How's the Alchemist? I don't see her around very much, but I can't seem to beat that one deck with 100% human creatures. I'm curious to know how well A does with a proper deck, like Fatigue Quetz or HB, Abaddon, etc against Oce/SA/Druid.
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Post by nowar on Jun 22, 2016 2:57:26 GMT
Ok Fellas,
As I went through your comments, I've realized that Fatigue 8 could be useful in specific scenarios. First, it needs to be melded into HB or Sentry Angel. Then you need to find a synergic deck and a hero (without this there is not much use).
Based on the above examples Fatigue 8 could work with:
1. Judgement and high HP healer deck 2. Alchemist like the nebiros✪NFS guy suggested 3. Maybe Warlock
Since I don't have any of above 5* heroes, I don't think I can make use of Fatigue 8 yet. The key point here is, your creatures need to last long.
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Post by nebiros✪NFS on Jun 22, 2016 7:57:15 GMT
Ok Fellas, As I went through your comments, I've realized that Fatigue 8 could be useful in specific scenarios. First, it needs to be melded into HB or Sentry Angel. Then you need to find a synergic deck and a hero (without this there is not much use). Based on the above examples Fatigue 8 could work with: 1. Judgement and high HP healer deck 2. Alchemist like the nebiros✪NFS guy suggested 3. Maybe Warlock Since I don't have any of above 5* heroes, I don't think I can make use of Fatigue 8 yet. The key point here is, your creatures need to last long. I think you might be missing the main point. Fatigue 8 without the rune is not that great, with the rune however that's another story. I was lucky to get 2 lethargy runes way back when you could pull them with glory, now I am 99% certain its gem draw only.
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Post by Topspin on Oct 11, 2016 16:08:10 GMT
I stumbled upon this thread as I look for alternative non-magic decks for alchemist. Does plague also behaves like fatigue and weakness? TIA.
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