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Post by asgarth1980 on Jun 23, 2016 10:49:33 GMT
Anzuki total agree... DL is one of the best... after octavius for revive meld... snow is a risk because a paragorn in front of her and bye bye deck just like today's trials 120...how many of us are using the snow to safely place our paragorn and game over... 10 rage per Rd is added bonus...... another argument if torment can be transferred then no doubt snow is the best carrier...
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Post by Yuna on Jun 23, 2016 12:47:23 GMT
Octaviuses and Tauruses will destroy Dragon Lord as well. Also, I'm pretty sure that Nightslayer's Onslaughter doesn't negate Ice Coffin (it does negate Frost Armor, though, so Nightslayer will destroy Dragon Lord, hands down) and even if it does, Nightslayer can only hit 3 creatures at a time (so it still requires lucky placement) and Onslaught lasts for only one turn the unless I'm mistaken. Every single method you'd mentioned that will work on killing Snow Harlot will also work against Dragon Lord. Meanwhile, Snow Harlot is immune to non-Direct Damage, so she has more surviveability than Dragon Lord, even against Taurus and Octavius (enemy deck has Taurus and/or Octavius, you have Snow Harlot and Dragon Lord. Who stands a better chance of survival? That's right, Snow Harlot). It's not "just as weak" as Dragon Lord because it's literally immune to everything that isn't Disposal or Direct Damage. Let's do the math: Things that destroy Dragon Lord: Direct Damage, Magic/Disposal/Instakill (20% chance), Bullseye, Chainstrike Things that destroy Snow Harlot: Direct Damage, Disposal Hmmm... which one has a better chance of survival? Onslaught doesn't need to negate Ice Coffin the BB rune goes straight through it, 280% dmg at lvl 14 = Dead Snow Harlot 1 shot as and when I meld Sac 10 on it it will be able to 1 shot Rafal's Sac 10 Octavius. Poison damage also negates ice coffin, 2 -3 stacks from Capricorn with a 5 star lvl 5/6 blight run = dead very quickly Add to that the 10 rage you get a round from bless on something say like Druidess...I don't see Snow Harlot doing that. What's more powerful ice coffin of Druidess? For. The. Last. Time. This is a comparison between Dragonlord and Snow Harlot. You cannot say "This will destroy Snow Harlot, so there!" when the same thing will also destroy Dragonlord. Blessing with Bless Rune only works if your Hero ahs taken damage. And if it has, then you're behind at least 1 creature and are in need of better board control. If you area constantly getting the bless bonus, then you're in deep s*** . The only good argument you've come up with is Poison, which actually goes go through Ice Coffin (for some idiotic reason), since Dragonlord's Immunity will actually block. Also, what? How the Hell do you expect to be able to one-shot Rafal's sac!Octavius, which, if Sacrifice goes off, will start off with ~12500 HP? There are no runes on this Earth that can buff Nightslayer's ATK to ~3300 (what you'll need to be able to inflict 12000+ damage in a single shot using Battleblow 14).
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Post by Yuna on Jun 23, 2016 12:49:37 GMT
Anzuki total agree... DL is one of the best... after octavius for revive meld... snow is a risk because a paragorn in front of her and bye bye deck just like today's trials 120...how many of us are using the snow to safely place our paragorn and game over... 10 rage per Rd is added bonus...... another argument if torment can be transferred then no doubt snow is the best carrier... Get Direct Damagers. If you rountinely run into situations where your Snow Harlot is facing the enemy Paragon and neither of your decks move in either direction, then that's weird unless your Snow Harlot was first to be deployed and their enemy Paragon was also first to be deployed. I very seldom manage to one-shot the enemy Paragons unless it's by AOE Direct Damage, in which case it doesn't really who the enemy Paragon is facing.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jun 23, 2016 13:31:27 GMT
I would defo buy this value pack for sure
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Post by ℜ★God on Jun 23, 2016 13:35:02 GMT
Dude, I want a damn 5 Sterne Menschen Verschmelzen Karte so bad
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jun 23, 2016 14:04:38 GMT
Was tempted to buy that DL pack yesterday and yolo for a 2nd revive DL.
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Post by ℜ★God on Jun 23, 2016 14:07:27 GMT
Does your Revive D.Lord get Cloned often or is that not something that you have to worry about?
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jun 23, 2016 14:31:51 GMT
Does your Revive D.Lord get Cloned often or is that not something that you have to worry about? It doesnt get cloned at all, but id rather DL get cloned tbh. I can deal with DL
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Post by ℜ★God on Jun 23, 2016 14:36:16 GMT
Does your Revive D.Lord get Cloned often or is that not something that you have to worry about? It doesnt get cloned at all, but id rather DL get cloned tbh. I can deal with DL Ah yes, because you have those dank Tauruses to Direct DMG him to death XD
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Jun 23, 2016 15:10:59 GMT
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Post by Azuk1977✪NFS on Jun 23, 2016 16:53:41 GMT
Onslaught doesn't need to negate Ice Coffin the BB rune goes straight through it, 280% dmg at lvl 14 = Dead Snow Harlot 1 shot as and when I meld Sac 10 on it it will be able to 1 shot Rafal's Sac 10 Octavius. Poison damage also negates ice coffin, 2 -3 stacks from Capricorn with a 5 star lvl 5/6 blight run = dead very quickly Add to that the 10 rage you get a round from bless on something say like Druidess...I don't see Snow Harlot doing that. What's more powerful ice coffin of Druidess? For. The. Last. Time. This is a comparison between Dragonlord and Snow Harlot. You cannot say "This will destroy Snow Harlot, so there!" when the same thing will also destroy Dragonlord. Blessing with Bless Rune only works if your Hero ahs taken damage. And if it has, then you're behind at least 1 creature and are in need of better board control. If you area constantly getting the bless bonus, then you're in deep s*** . The only good argument you've come up with is Poison, which actually goes go through Ice Coffin (for some idiotic reason), since Dragonlord's Immunity will actually block. Also, what? How the Hell do you expect to be able to one-shot Rafal's sac!Octavius, which, if Sacrifice goes off, will start off with ~12500 HP? There are no runes on this Earth that can buff Nightslayer's ATK to ~3300 (what you'll need to be able to inflict 12000+ damage in a single shot using Battleblow 14). Already worked if out that if BB15 goes off with sacrifice 10 and the right rune boosts it can hit for over 15k dmg. I will leave you to work that out. I can just drop the A bomb then.....Snow harlot is useless Vs Alice....boom straight back in your deck you can't protect against it. Another point for Dragon lord is you can upgrade his immunity easily to 10 as well.
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Post by Yuna on Jun 23, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
What happened to BB14? You atgued BB14 at first and now it's all of a sudden BB15? Also, you know a magical way too boost her attack to 3000+? Have fun with that. Weird how you're not #1 in tournament yet sitting on that secret.
So let's revise the tally then: rev!Dragonlord (Immm10), weak to: Direct Damage, Bullseye, Chainstrike rev!Snow Harlot: Spike Bits, Alice, Direct Damage, Poison, Disposal
Alice doesn't kill her, only retreats her and almost no one runs Spiky Bits in the upper levels.
Fine, I concede. They're on the same level.
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Post by monkeylord on Jun 23, 2016 21:35:24 GMT
Best maybe to run one of each?
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Post by ozzy on Jun 23, 2016 21:47:04 GMT
I liked the discussion, and Yuna Add killer queen's guilt to drangonlord's weaknesses, and instakill to harlot's I just beat trial120 for the first time and drangonlord was the last card died from guilt while harlots were staying put because I don't have any (worth to use) direct damagers
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Post by monkeylord on Jun 23, 2016 22:00:30 GMT
I liked the discussion, and Yuna Add killer queen's guilt to drangonlord's weaknesses, and instakill to harlot's I just beat trial120 for the first time and drangonlord was the last card died from guilt while harlots were staying put because I don't have any (worth to use) direct damagers as long as we're naming names, here are some other things harlot is better against out of the box: sac cancer, anathemas (in front), captivator, frostblade, kitsune, retreat, twins, dodge rune Overall I still think dl is better, alice has really ruined most morti.
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Post by ozzy on Jun 23, 2016 22:23:43 GMT
as long as we're naming names, here are some other things harlot is better against out of the box: sac cancer, anathemas (in front), captivator, frostblade, kitsune, retreat, twins, dodge rune Overall I still think dl is better, alice has really ruined most morti. we can't count retreat because our drangonlord here has imm10, but we can count Scorpio's impale too I guess. And They already stated Bullseye so I am not sure what else you could mean by saying anathemas (in front)?
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Post by Yuna on Jun 23, 2016 22:36:38 GMT
I liked the discussion, and Yuna Add killer queen's guilt to drangonlord's weaknesses, and instakill to harlot's I just beat trial120 for the first time and drangonlord was the last card died from guilt while harlots were staying put because I don't have any (worth to use) direct damagers Pretty sure Snow Harlot cannot be instakilled. Back when I used her, Instakill would just not kill her for some reason, IIRC.
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Post by Chippen_WK_ on Jun 24, 2016 5:56:51 GMT
Alice Alice and Alice say no more
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Post by ℜ★God on Jun 24, 2016 5:59:07 GMT
I liked the discussion, and Yuna Add killer queen's guilt to drangonlord's weaknesses, and instakill to harlot's I just beat trial120 for the first time and drangonlord was the last card died from guilt while harlots were staying put because I don't have any (worth to use) direct damagers Pretty sure Snow Harlot cannot be instakilled. Back when I used her, Instakill would just not kill her for some reason, IIRC. Snow Harlots can 100% be instakilled (as long as they aren't melded with Stoneskin or Immunity).
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Post by Yuna on Jun 24, 2016 6:58:42 GMT
Pretty sure Snow Harlot cannot be instakilled. Back when I used her, Instakill would just not kill her for some reason, IIRC. Snow Harlots can 100% be instakilled (as long as they aren't melded with Stoneskin or Immunity). Could've sworn I had my Snow Harlot just shrug off Instakill. It's been a few months since I used her heavily, though. I take back everything I said, then. Dragonlord is a better revive carrier than Snow Harlot.
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