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Post by artdz on Apr 5, 2015 19:10:34 GMT
So 4 5* hero shard guys are available Captivator Warlock Judgement Overlord
From my understanding the Overlord is weak.
The other 3 are pretty good with the captivator probably being best? But it's unlikely i'll play with a lot of Neanders.
What are you guys planning to get and why?
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Post by ÐARҞNESS on Apr 5, 2015 20:09:40 GMT
For me Warlock > Captivator > Judgement > Overlord
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 21:39:52 GMT
I think Overlord is a really good one cause you can destroy the strongest ennemy creature, it means no revive or recycle, the creature is gone, and increase the stat of your team in the same time, but to perform correctly, you need to have a strong deck already and use Overlord as a "Bonus". If you want to make your whole deck stronger, Captivator is the best cause you block ennemy creatures with main skill and with "mass charm". Judgement needs to be leveled up to be efficient. Finnaly, for me, Worlock is useless, his main skill is pretty much the same as "mass heal".
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Post by ℜ★Xega on Apr 6, 2015 1:45:57 GMT
Warlock's skill can dispel death curse which is a great counter to Wight, beyond that it's a better version of Royal guard. Very situational.
Overlord is a 5* version of balrog, very useful but not as good as Armageddon.
Captivator has a great skill and almost always kills off an enemy card. Better than blademaster imo.
Judgement can be decent at higher levels, if your team has enough hp buffs and defenses it can make your team very hard to kill.
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Post by R✰Slippo on Apr 6, 2015 2:18:07 GMT
I think Armageddon is just in a league of his own. Bringing an opponent's card back to life, negating revive/recycle just like Overlord/Balrog, but you get to use that creature as your own. Just simply an overpowered ability. I think I'm going to go for Captivator & Overlord for the time being since no matter what I do deck wise, Deathless will remain amazingly overpowered as is Sharp Armor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 4:55:08 GMT
Are those the only four available? What about Oceanus or Armageddon? Can we get those shards in the tournament mall???
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Post by thundergod on Apr 6, 2015 7:33:10 GMT
I think Armageddon is just in a league of his own. Bringing an opponent's card back to life, negating revive/recycle just like Overlord/Balrog, but you get to use that creature as your own. Just simply an overpowered ability. I think I'm going to go for Captivator & Overlord for the time being since no matter what I do deck wise, Deathless will remain amazingly overpowered as is Sharp Armor. I'm probably going to go for Captivator and Overlord too, but sometimes I think Spiky Bits would be better than Sharp Armor for some maps because you have to rely on having Neanders in the graveyard for Sharp Armor. Deathless is still great if the majority of the deck is Mortii.
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Post by Hitmus✪NFS on Apr 6, 2015 8:00:15 GMT
i still can not decide but Captivator and spiky beats for all creatures sounds nice. Overloard i guess is nice for 11 maps where graveyad removal seem to be needed?
any more advices welcome of course
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Post by Pyron on Apr 6, 2015 8:45:30 GMT
I like Captivator and Overlord as well. At lvl 1 it seems better while Warlock and Judgement may scale better later. However, I prefer the Mortii and Neander talents better.
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Post by megapuncher on Apr 6, 2015 11:38:21 GMT
Kind of related to this discussion, here is a little research I did about Warlock (human chambers lvl 5).
I had these cards with negative statuses in my deck:
Wight - curse Undying Will - blaze Anathema - gas cloud Phoenix - pyre (fireballs)
Bug or what? Warlock's release did remove curse, blaze, gas clouds from it's creatures. They suppose to be protected for another (next) turn - and they are NOT! Curse applied, blaze applies, gas clouds applied, fireballs did damage. (I am not sure about fireballs tho)
Warlock was pretty interesting to have but with this research he is kinda meh. Unless I do not understand something. What are those mysterious "negative status effects"?
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Post by artdz on Apr 6, 2015 14:12:30 GMT
Well i'll just buy shards for both warlock and captivator. Since the tournament thing resets only once a day and I have a 50% chance of it not being one of those two heroes i'll have extra shards.
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Post by kakola on Apr 9, 2015 6:00:31 GMT
Can Judgement learn Lightfoot? If he can then Judgement and Overlord have the best skill sets imo (Lightfoot and Deathless). I think Sharp Armor has very situational activation conditions. Therefore I prefer to use Berserker against magic damage decks. Captivator seems to have strong rage ability though (even at low levels).
I think one could make strong dual/mix faction deck with deathless overlord. Lots of high frost armor creatures combined with 4 or so mortii. Hopefully this way deathless activates when there are lots of creatures in play. I can also think of multiple dungeon stages and gauntlet opponents where the overlord ability would have been really useful.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 8:57:20 GMT
I'm going for the overlord.. seems to fit me well
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 10:16:55 GMT
I'm trying to decide on a 2nd to go for, i've been farming warlock, but my tournament income is enough to acomodate 2 at the same time.
I'm a bit thorned between overlord and judgment though.
i dont use neander, so captivator is kinda of a backup plan for me, although the charming thing sounds nice, and if i farm some flame masters and graboids i can see myself running a neander deck every now and then.
decisions decisions
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 10:54:09 GMT
I'm trying to decide on a 2nd to go for, i've been farming warlock, but my tournament income is enough to acomodate 2 at the same time. I'm a bit thorned between overlord and judgment though. i dont use neander, so captivator is kinda of a backup plan for me, although the charming thing sounds nice, and if i farm some flame masters and graboids i can see myself running a neander deck every now and then. decisions decisions Yeah same in really should start collecting another 5☆. I may go for the warlock. I don't use Neanders and the judgment doesn't really tickle my fancy. So only really leaves warlock. I prob should get captivator though, I don't have any neander heroes past 3 ☆s, or even shards for that matter... With tournaments in now, I really should get my diversity up amongst the factions. Being flexible may be the key to getting high in the arena. Only thing is I sac all my good Neanders hahaha Side question- When attacking in tournaments, did anyone else notice it pretty much goes mortii first team, Human second with a Faen deck third.? I know there are people using different setups and Neander decks etc but I notice this setup all the time...
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 11:08:43 GMT
I'm trying to decide on a 2nd to go for, i've been farming warlock, but my tournament income is enough to acomodate 2 at the same time. I'm a bit thorned between overlord and judgment though. i dont use neander, so captivator is kinda of a backup plan for me, although the charming thing sounds nice, and if i farm some flame masters and graboids i can see myself running a neander deck every now and then. decisions decisions Yeah same in really should start collecting another 5☆. I may go for the warlock. I don't use Neanders and the judgment doesn't really tickle my fancy. So only really leaves warlock. I prob should get captivator though, I don't have any neander heroes past 3 ☆s, or even shards for that matter... With tournaments in now, I really should get my diversity up amongst the factions. Being flexible may be the key to getting high in the arena. Only thing is I sac all my good Neanders hahaha Side question- When attacking in tournaments, did anyone else notice it pretty much goes mortii first team, Human second with a Faen deck third.? I know there are people using different setups and Neander decks etc but I notice this setup all the time... it happens a lot indeed. best thing is, u can choose the matchups, usually i conceed the first battle by putting my weakest deck against their strongest, then i go with my best against their 2nd best and so on, only lost 1 fight until now, still ranked about 1100 though, started at arround 2500.
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 11:18:08 GMT
Yeah same in really should start collecting another 5☆. I may go for the warlock. I don't use Neanders and the judgment doesn't really tickle my fancy. So only really leaves warlock. I prob should get captivator though, I don't have any neander heroes past 3 ☆s, or even shards for that matter... With tournaments in now, I really should get my diversity up amongst the factions. Being flexible may be the key to getting high in the arena. Only thing is I sac all my good Neanders hahaha Side question- When attacking in tournaments, did anyone else notice it pretty much goes mortii first team, Human second with a Faen deck third.? I know there are people using different setups and Neander decks etc but I notice this setup all the time... it happens a lot indeed. best thing is, u can choose the matchups, usually i conceed the first battle by putting my weakest deck against their strongest, then i go with my best against their 2nd best and so on, only lost 1 fight until now, still ranked about 1100 though, started at arround 2500. Haha same here mate, it's a good tactic. I started around 4000 and im floating between 1000 and 1200. My dragon rider needs some leveling up...
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 11:35:20 GMT
its a good tactic, but eventually someones weakest deck will be miles better than my best
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Post by Sephiroth [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 11:43:49 GMT
It's probably also because of this tactic that I still lose a defensive battle or two a day. I defend a lot. But a few get through me. It's really hard to defend.
Strong diversity is def needed.
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 9, 2015 16:51:21 GMT
I'm going for Judgement, that will make a Killer Faen deck.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 17:52:13 GMT
I'm going for Judgement, that will make a Killer Faen deck. i believe u meant to say: "that will make an unkillable Faen deck"
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 9, 2015 17:56:11 GMT
I'm going for Judgement, that will make a Killer Faen deck. i believe u meant to say: "that will make an unkillable Faen deck" Both are true in this situation
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 9, 2015 17:59:44 GMT
i believe u meant to say: "that will make an unkillable Faen deck" Both are true in this situation ur right, anyway i've decided for the overlord guy for my 2nd target: it's him and warlock now my deck core is about 70% mortii, so might as well just go with them but that judjement guy is a pain in the A**, havent beat faen 5th chamber yet
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Post by DianaTroy [βκ] on Apr 9, 2015 18:02:00 GMT
Both are true in this situation ur right, anyway i've decided for the overlord guy for my 2nd target: it's him and warlock now my deck core is about 70% mortii, so might as well just go with them but that judjement guy is a pain in the A**, havent beat faen 5th chamber yet Too bad it'll take 3 months to get a 5* through Tournament.
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Post by argamoroth on Apr 9, 2015 23:10:54 GMT
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Post by asgarth1980 on Apr 11, 2015 5:12:36 GMT
The 5* are all inside the chamber 5 of each factions if not mistaken. You could give a go and see for yourself how powerful or not powerful there are. I was hoping for OCEANUS inside but... and that creature main skill is like armagedon's skill if not mistaken.
Warlock removed negative effect but physical damage can kill u unlike the royal guard. Good if it come out at the right time.
Captivator is lousiest because neander skill are not good for PVP especially high levels. Kill one so what and it is random which creature to be killed... It will be rebirth.
Overlord a big version of Balrog... Ofourse it should have the MORTI skill which is always OP like deathless and cripple. I would pick WIGHT over overlord because of the exponential damage.
I think judgment's skill is the best. Seriously try going for chamber 5 FAEN. IT is not easy from my standpoint. Those cards are indestructable.. Keeps ultra healing...
So Either Overlord or Judgment to go for my opinion.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 11, 2015 9:22:05 GMT
well assuming prayer dispells also the wights death curse, that alone is worth a lot, still judgement seems like a better option, that healing buff is so strong. faen 5th chamber is definitly the hardest of them all for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 13:39:34 GMT
Everyone is talking about what hero or two to go for. It cost 4000 credits for a hero shard which resets every 24 hours. 4000/24= 166.67 credits an hour to satisfy this need. This means you need to be ranked around 200 in the tournament and you can buy every single hero shards. Why go for one or two 5* heroes when you can get all 4!! plus if your ranked as high as 149, you will have extra credits to buy gems or other available items if you desire.
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Post by Somar [BK] on Apr 11, 2015 14:01:12 GMT
well i'm yet to crack top 1000, so for now my income only allows to go for 2 at once, i would go for all 4 for sure if i had the spare credits
even so, by my math it will take you 200 days to actually get my first 5* assuming u dont refresh
u get the same hero every 4th day for 2 shards each turn, which means u have to buy 50 times to get all shards needed, so 4*50 = 200, which is rougly 6 Months,
so probably i'll have my hero ready for the halloween special event
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 14:14:15 GMT
well i'm yet to crack top 1000, so for now my income only allows to go for 2 at once, i would go for all 4 for sure if i had the spare credits even so, by my math it will take you 200 days to actually get my first 5* assuming u dont refresh u get the same hero every 4th day for 2 shards each turn, which means u have to buy 50 times to get all shards needed, so 4*50 = 200, which is rougly 6 Months, so probably i'll have my hero ready for the halloween special event Progression in the tournament is quite easy. when the tournament was first released i was ranked 1300, now im in the top 150. Assuming you have 3 good decks, breaking the top 200 is very easy just might take a week or two. Since there are 4 possible outcomes and 7 days a week chances are you will see each hero about 1-3 times a week (for some reason i see warlock 4 times a week). it will take about 30 weeks give or take to get all the 4 5* heroes (400 5*hero shards/14 total shards acquired per week =28.57 total weeks) since you will not see each 5* equally it will prob be closer to 30+ weeks. Around beginning to mid October i will have the 4 5* heroes.
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