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Post by soujiro707 on Jul 3, 2016 23:31:30 GMT
I have 2 Dahlia and i'm not sure if I should keep them intact or put them on HB until I have the resources for a better 5* rec 2
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Post by necrofr0st on Jul 3, 2016 23:44:31 GMT
I would do it.
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Post by ℜ★Jaegybomb on Jul 4, 2016 2:39:55 GMT
HB is pretty much a decent 5*
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 4, 2016 3:15:03 GMT
I would do it. It's hard to get cloned and has some level of protection from crazed sorrow. Upgrade the Dodge and mass heal and she is pretty nice.
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Post by icezaius on Jul 4, 2016 3:22:26 GMT
Unless you are already well set on recycle/revives, in which case you should consider melding her sacrifice
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Post by Baradead(japooned) on Jul 4, 2016 3:59:05 GMT
HB
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 6:06:13 GMT
If u have other 5* excess go for it... else hb temporary... niddhogg , Fafnir or mimir for 5* if u have excess copies..
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 6:09:38 GMT
I would do it. It's hard to get cloned and has some level of protection from crazed sorrow. Upgrade the Dodge and mass heal and she is pretty nice. It does not have protection against Crazed Sorrow. I think what you mean that it has minor protection from other friendly creatures who've been put under Crazed Sorrow. Horned Beast will 100% be put under Crazed Sorrow alongside everyone else, though.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 4, 2016 6:20:20 GMT
I would do it. It's hard to get cloned and has some level of protection from crazed sorrow. Upgrade the Dodge and mass heal and she is pretty nice. It does not have protection against Crazed Sorrow. I think what you mean that it has minor protection from other friendly creatures who've been put under Crazed Sorrow. Horned Beast will 100% be put under Crazed Sorrow alongside everyone else, though. I meant Dodge, with high level Dodge it can Dodge attack from both of the adjacent creatures unless they have bullseye. However crazed sorrow will reduce its HP and max HP.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 7:35:30 GMT
Meld it to HB. No point melding recycles to 5* cards. Later on the game you will find deck cost is your worse enemy. As guys just mentioned that an upgraded HB, dodge10, mass heal 10 is just as good as a 5* card.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 8:20:36 GMT
Meld it to HB. No point melding recycles to 5* cards. Later on the game you will find deck cost is your worse enemy. As guys just mentioned that an upgraded HB, dodge10, mass heal 10 is just as good as a 5* card. but then at higher level the HD damage output too low...it will become a weak link....anyway...who has so many op cards to push the cost ...if u have multiple aquar... Tauruses...yes...but if u have limited...cost is not the main consideration yet...we are not in the whale family so cost is far from our concerns....
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 8:23:18 GMT
Meld it to HB. No point melding recycles to 5* cards. Later on the game you will find deck cost is your worse enemy. As guys just mentioned that an upgraded HB, dodge10, mass heal 10 is just as good as a 5* card. but then at higher level the HD damage output too low...it will become a weak link....anyway...who has so many op cards to push the cost ...if u have multiple aquar... Tauruses...yes...but if u have limited...cost is not the main consideration yet...we are not in the whale family so cost is far from our concerns.... Who cares about Horned Beast's ATK? Horned Beat is a support type, not a damage type.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 4, 2016 8:41:32 GMT
Guess he wants a multi tasker recycle, like recycle KQ. The problem with a Recycle KQ ( a very big problem) is that it costs 23 and you don't want her cloned or resurrected.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 9:09:37 GMT
but then at higher level the HD damage output too low...it will become a weak link....anyway...who has so many op cards to push the cost ...if u have multiple aquar... Tauruses...yes...but if u have limited...cost is not the main consideration yet...we are not in the whale family so cost is far from our concerns.... Who cares about Horned Beast's ATK? Horned Beat is a support type, not a damage type. Agree Yuna, recycles and revives are support cards no need for high attack power.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 9:11:22 GMT
but then at higher level the HD damage output too low...it will become a weak link....anyway...who has so many op cards to push the cost ...if u have multiple aquar... Tauruses...yes...but if u have limited...cost is not the main consideration yet...we are not in the whale family so cost is far from our concerns.... Who cares about Horned Beast's ATK? Horned Beat is a support type, not a damage type. 1st...I dun have so many multiple taurus to have multiple direct damage... from my review of battles...a number of time I lost because the opponent paragorn sitting in front of my hb... at 700attk.. it will be forever to kill it .... that is the weak link I am talking about... in decks with mostlikely basic attacks and some direct attks... the weak link is the weakest damager.... support if it come out extreme right Fine....in auto fights there are time when your recyclers or revivers pop up at the extreme left and u will be screwed.... so a big damager with bigger hp do help in some way...... auto battles --> not always comes out what u want....if like that I could be at rank 1 even for an hour....
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 9:14:51 GMT
Guess he wants a multi tasker recycle, like recycle KQ. The problem with a Recycle KQ ( a very big problem) is that it costs 23 and you don't want her cloned or resurrected. A recycle KQ should only be used in a Cap deck to reach its full potential because it saves you a slot. Wouldnt you rather deal with a rec1 KQ over a revive card? Because i would rather deal with a recycle over revive any day.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 9:23:31 GMT
Guess he wants a multi tasker recycle, like recycle KQ. The problem with a Recycle KQ ( a very big problem) is that it costs 23 and you don't want her cloned or resurrected. A recycle KQ should only be used in a Cap deck to reach its full potential because it saves you a slot. Wouldnt you rather deal with a rec1 KQ over a revive card? Because i would rather deal with a recycle over revive any day. worst is cloning your sac taurus at cost 24....sac taurus with immunity is a nightmare
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 9:25:51 GMT
Who cares about Horned Beast's ATK? Horned Beat is a support type, not a damage type. 1st...I dun have so many multiple taurus to have multiple direct damage... from my review of battles...a number of time I lost because the opponent paragorn sitting in front of my hb... at 700attk.. it will be forever to kill it .... that is the weak link I am talking about... in decks with mostlikely basic attacks and some direct attks... the weak link is the weakest damager.... support if it come out extreme right Fine....in auto fights there are time when your recyclers or revivers pop up at the extreme left and u will be screwed.... so a big damager with bigger hp do help in some way...... auto battles --> not always comes out what u want....if like that I could be at rank 1 even for an hour.... It's super-easy to get Horned Beast's ATK up to 700: Violence V Grimoire. Meld Stabthrough on any 2 Sweeping Blowers (preferably human), collect a bunch of Oracles (vanilla level 10 Oracles work) and you will win against the 5-star Violence V Grimoire every single time, even on Autoamtic (it matters not if you use 4-star human sweepers, the Oracles will boost their HP enough for them to survive). You need to use Zora Marauder as your hero.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 9:26:29 GMT
A recycle KQ should only be used in a Cap deck to reach its full potential because it saves you a slot. Wouldnt you rather deal with a rec1 KQ over a revive card? Because i would rather deal with a recycle over revive any day. worst is cloning your sac taurus at cost 24....sac taurus with immunity is a nightmare Well i have higher cost cards than Taurus, most times im ok. But yea a cloned sac Taurus would be a pain.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 9:27:12 GMT
1st...I dun have so many multiple taurus to have multiple direct damage... from my review of battles...a number of time I lost because the opponent paragorn sitting in front of my hb... at 700attk.. it will be forever to kill it .... that is the weak link I am talking about... in decks with mostlikely basic attacks and some direct attks... the weak link is the weakest damager.... support if it come out extreme right Fine....in auto fights there are time when your recyclers or revivers pop up at the extreme left and u will be screwed.... so a big damager with bigger hp do help in some way...... auto battles --> not always comes out what u want....if like that I could be at rank 1 even for an hour.... It's super-easy to get Horned Beast's ATK up to 700: Violence V Grimoire. Meld Stabthrough on any 2 Sweeping Blowers (preferably human), collect a bunch of Oracles (vanilla level 10 Oracles work) and you will win against the 5-star Violence V Grimoire every single time, even on Autoamtic (it matters not if you use 4-star human sweepers, the Oracles will boost their HP enough for them to survive). You need to use Zora Marauder as your hero. what are u talking here? U lost me
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 9:28:19 GMT
1st...I dun have so many multiple taurus to have multiple direct damage... from my review of battles...a number of time I lost because the opponent paragorn sitting in front of my hb... at 700attk.. it will be forever to kill it .... that is the weak link I am talking about... in decks with mostlikely basic attacks and some direct attks... the weak link is the weakest damager.... support if it come out extreme right Fine....in auto fights there are time when your recyclers or revivers pop up at the extreme left and u will be screwed.... so a big damager with bigger hp do help in some way...... auto battles --> not always comes out what u want....if like that I could be at rank 1 even for an hour.... It's super-easy to get Horned Beast's ATK up to 700: Violence V Grimoire. Meld Stabthrough on any 2 Sweeping Blowers (preferably human), collect a bunch of Oracles (vanilla level 10 Oracles work) and you will win against the 5-star Violence V Grimoire every single time, even on Autoamtic (it matters not if you use 4-star human sweepers, the Oracles will boost their HP enough for them to survive). You need to use Zora Marauder as your hero. Hes not talking about Grimore decks. Hes talking his main deck or Tourney ones.
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 9:32:32 GMT
It's super-easy to get Horned Beast's ATK up to 700: Violence V Grimoire. Meld Stabthrough on any 2 Sweeping Blowers (preferably human), collect a bunch of Oracles (vanilla level 10 Oracles work) and you will win against the 5-star Violence V Grimoire every single time, even on Autoamtic (it matters not if you use 4-star human sweepers, the Oracles will boost their HP enough for them to survive). You need to use Zora Marauder as your hero. Hes not talking about Grimore decks. Hes talking his main deck or Tourney ones. He's complaining about Horned Beast having too low of an ATK and if it's facing a Paragon with 700 ATK, Horned Beast is liable to never being able to kill the Paragon. I'm saying: Just put a Violence V rune on Horned Beast and telling him how to beat Violence V Grimoire in the same breath.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 4, 2016 9:35:42 GMT
Hes not talking about Grimore decks. Hes talking his main deck or Tourney ones. He's complaining about Horned Beast having too low of an ATK and if it's facing a Paragon with 700 ATK, Horned Beast is liable to never being able to kill the Paragon. I'm saying: Just put a Violence V rune on Horned Beast and telling him how to beat Violence V Grimoire in the same breath. Not everyone can get their hands on Viol runes or have enough copies to put it on HB. Im sure Viol runes are prioritized for heavy hitters first.
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 9:40:51 GMT
He's complaining about Horned Beast having too low of an ATK and if it's facing a Paragon with 700 ATK, Horned Beast is liable to never being able to kill the Paragon. I'm saying: Just put a Violence V rune on Horned Beast and telling him how to beat Violence V Grimoire in the same breath. Not everyone can get their hands on Viol runes or have enough copies to put it on HB. Im sure Viol runes are prioritized for heavy hitters first. Literally everyone can get their hands on Violence V Runes after a few weeks of playing being entirely F2P. Also, read his post again. S/he specifically complained about Horned Beast having to low of an ATK to be a viable alternative, so I told him or her how to work around this.
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Post by thundergod on Jul 4, 2016 9:41:27 GMT
Hes not talking about Grimore decks. Hes talking his main deck or Tourney ones. He's complaining about Horned Beast having too low of an ATK and if it's facing a Paragon with 700 ATK, Horned Beast is liable to never being able to kill the Paragon. I'm saying: Just put a Violence V rune on Horned Beast and telling him how to beat Violence V Grimoire in the same breath. He knows how to beat Violence Grimoire...
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 9:42:53 GMT
He's complaining about Horned Beast having too low of an ATK and if it's facing a Paragon with 700 ATK, Horned Beast is liable to never being able to kill the Paragon. I'm saying: Just put a Violence V rune on Horned Beast and telling him how to beat Violence V Grimoire in the same breath. He knows how to beat Violence Grimoire... Sorry, I didn't check the username. I just assumed it was OP.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 4, 2016 9:48:49 GMT
He knows how to beat Violence Grimoire... Sorry, I didn't check the username. I just assumed it was OP. what I mean was my horned beast wih attached ard 700 will take forever to kill a paragorn with hp of 3k.... anyway it is how disconnected our conversation of whale versus pure f2p.... thundergod should understand me better....
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 10:01:24 GMT
Sorry, I didn't check the username. I just assumed it was OP. what I mean was my horned beast wih attached ard 700 will take forever to kill a paragorn with hp of 3k.... anyway it is how disconnected our conversation of whale versus pure f2p.... thundergod should understand me better.... Unless you get lucky on placements or the majority of your creatures are high damage creatures, you're gonna face that with or without Horned Beast.
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Post by kvasac on Jul 4, 2016 11:00:12 GMT
Not everyone can get their hands on Viol runes or have enough copies to put it on HB. Im sure Viol runes are prioritized for heavy hitters first. Literally everyone can get their hands on Violence V Runes after a few weeks of playing being entirely F2P. Also, read his post again. S/he specifically complained about Horned Beast having to low of an ATK to be a viable alternative, so I told him or her how to work around this. In what world do you live in? 5 shards average when violence is on, 50 needed, means 10 violence grims. That is 40 days for 1 rune for f2p.
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Post by Yuna on Jul 4, 2016 11:04:31 GMT
Literally everyone can get their hands on Violence V Runes after a few weeks of playing being entirely F2P. Also, read his post again. S/he specifically complained about Horned Beast having to low of an ATK to be a viable alternative, so I told him or her how to work around this. In what world do you live in? 5 shards average when violence is on, 50 needed, means 10 violence grims. That is 40 days for 1 rune for f2p. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware of the fact that someone'd died and made you Arbiter of the English language and that you somehow, without my knowledge, redefined " a few weeks" as "ways less days than 40".
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