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Post by sblip on Jul 13, 2016 23:53:44 GMT
Am I the only person who is loving this? I feel like I'm the only person who is loving this
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Post by slim50 on Jul 14, 2016 1:33:40 GMT
Am I the only person who is loving this? I feel like I'm the only person who is loving this I don't think so, I can only speak for myself and say it's way over the top for me. I'm sure it's good for the game but I don't like doing math, haven't been in school in over 25 years.
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Post by sblip on Jul 14, 2016 1:58:41 GMT
I can understand that. It wouldn't be so frikkin hard to understand if IGG would document ANYTHING about it. There is already 500x more information about it in 4 threads on this freeforum than there is anywhere else.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 2:48:17 GMT
Equipments should have stayed in rpgs, not in a card game.
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 14, 2016 4:43:48 GMT
I am not liking the equipment too much. I think runes was enough as it is, this equipment is making it even more complex and on top of that I can't even see the equipment on the opponent before attacking, that's not fair.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 14, 2016 4:57:08 GMT
I am not liking the equipment too much. I think runes was enough as it is, this equipment is making it even more complex and on top of that I can't even see the equipment on the opponent before attacking, that's not fair. yup... we can see rune and not equipment...ancient war in the early AD... the army can see each other's equipment... they cannot see each other lucky charm... in our card game we can see the rune aka lucky charm but not the equipment of the general....
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Post by kahl on Jul 14, 2016 5:49:56 GMT
This is just a tad complex idea by IGGreed... and yeah another Gem Hole.
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Jul 14, 2016 7:44:53 GMT
I think its a good idea, even though i dont have the super OP equips yet. Just think its like 6 more slots for runes. Also its not that hard to understand it, so much info here and im sure between your guild mates its not hard to figure it out .
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Post by xathrax on Jul 14, 2016 7:49:01 GMT
I think its a good idea, even though i dont have the super OP equips yet. Just think its like 6 more slots for runes. Also its not that hard to understand it, so much info here and im sure between your guild mates its not hard to figure it out . The crafting part is fairly easy to figure out, but I wish there was more accurate information available(supplied by IGG) on what each parameter does as there is room for interpretation.
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Post by pcfd on Jul 14, 2016 8:41:40 GMT
equipment can bee see on enemy hero
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Post by evolved303 on Jul 14, 2016 9:08:44 GMT
Greetings evolved, Rankax here Wanted also to share some of my knowledge. Tested a bit with vodoo and skill potency and it looks pretty obvious, that the more enemy creatures are out, the more dmg you make and this seems to be exponential, whic is pretty insane in my opinion, but it is how it is. Here is the formula. it is pretty exact. (for my test results at least) Formula: f(x) = skilldmg = basedmg * (1+skill_potency)^x basedmg - for instance vodoo without skill potency applied or any creatures on enemy side x- number of enemy creatures skill_potency - for 20% skill potency it is 0.2 I am pretty sure that this has also something to do with the dmg you receive from protean grimoire, because the more creatures I had out, the less dmg I got. So with high skill resistance it is very possible to do prot 5 grimoire For instance (my test data with Vodoo):- basedmg - 734 - x - [4,5,6,7,8] - skill_potency - 0.21 (21%) - f(x) = 734 * (1+0.21)^x x | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | Test | 1574 | 1905 | 2305 | 2790 | 3376 | f(x) | 1573 | 1903 | 2304 | 2787 | 3373 |
Notice: Values are rounded a bit. That is why the result for formula is not exact. Feel free to test around with it and see if it works for you. I wanted to follow up with this, I know a bunch of people are gonna see math and numbers and just zone out. So, I wanted to make something clear, the more people there are out, potencys effect is exponential. Thus, if you have out your whole team, and I drop a taurus, or blademaster procs ult, you're basically getting rekd. Also, it doesnt seem to affect healing at all, which is lame, and, it also seemed that the skill 'injured' doesnt work as well when you have skill resist, but that might not be totally correct. Finally, I could see the exponential nature of this boost being a bug. I could easily see that someone writing the code could be thinking 'im trying to calculate how much pyre damage to put out in total, so ill just multiply by the number of targets to get the value', which is flawed logic, but easily overlooked.
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 9:20:30 GMT
One thing i am liking the sound of is a counter to Octavius direct dmg.
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 12:26:30 GMT
Hi, i am wondering, is second attribute same with main attribute? Is there any examples for second attribute?
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 12:32:03 GMT
Hi, i am wondering, is second attribute same with main attribute? Is there any examples for second attribute? +130 hp +42 atk. These are samples
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 12:34:48 GMT
thanks. so second attribute is basically an increased stat?
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Post by xathrax on Jul 14, 2016 12:43:00 GMT
thanks. so second attribute is basically an increased stat? It might also be a bonus that other equipment have. For instance boots might also give you a bonus to critical hits. But the % is significantly smaller.
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Post by japoon on Jul 14, 2016 13:43:08 GMT
How is your formula for crafting Lvl5 orange equipment?
5* materials + Lvl3 orange equipment or 5* materials + Lvl4 orange equipment?
Please help me
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Post by 1501✪NFS on Jul 14, 2016 14:18:37 GMT
may be you can refer to this post
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Post by sblip on Jul 14, 2016 17:48:30 GMT
I updated that post after I was corrected something - the highest % chance you can get to craft a lvl 5 orange item is 42% -- it's the same if you use a level 3 or level 4 (or 5) as a sacrifice item. Therefore it is cheaper to use orange lvl 3 equipment when trying to craft orange level 5 equipment.
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Post by evolved303 on Jul 14, 2016 19:15:42 GMT
However, without knowing the _implementation_ of how items are crafted on IGG's side, one can't tell if there are any other considerations/effects that using lvl4 orange gear to feed the beast has. Barring some disclosure from IGG (unlikely), I would recommend not using lvl4 gear to feed for now.
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Post by nowar on Jul 15, 2016 3:27:40 GMT
OK guys, let me update my quipments. I managed to farm all the free meterieals and crafted lvl 3 items. Level 3 Sword gave me +3 HP boost to all of my creatues. Today I'm equiping level 3 boots. Unfortunately, I could not craft level 4 Sword as it requied some special meterials. Aparently those meterials can only be obtained by special events like Sky Arana etc... Can you please, tell me is there any other way to craft level 4,5 eqipments? And my second questions is: When I craft an item I coud make it with white(level 1) or green(level 2) meterials and I can select level 1 or level 2 item to put in the scrificing slot. So what are the differences? Check this: level 3 Sword A: crafted using level 1 meterials level 3 Sword B: crafeted using level 2 meterials What are the differences between A and B? THanks!
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 15, 2016 3:51:43 GMT
OK guys, let me update my quipments. I managed to farm all the free meterieals and crafted lvl 3 items. Level 3 Sword gave me +3 HP boost to all of my creatues. Today I'm equiping level 3 boots. Unfortunately, I could not craft level 4 Sword as it requied some special meterials. Aparently those meterials can only be obtained by special events like Sky Arana etc... Can you please, tell me is there any other way to craft level 4,5 eqipments? And my second questions is: When I craft an item I coud make it with white(level 1) or green(level 2) meterials and I can select level 1 or level 2 item to put in the scrificing slot. So what are the differences? Check this: level 3 Sword A: crafted using level 1 meterials level 3 Sword B: crafeted using level 2 meterials What are the differences between A and B? THanks! There are two types of level 4 and 5 equipments. One is rare and one is free, you can make the free equipment, upto a level 5 one. The higher your materials the greater is your chance to make a higher class item. There are five levels of equipment (1-5) and there are five different classes of it (white, green, blue, purple, gold/orange) and they are in increasing order from white to gold. So if you use white items for equipment, you get a white equipment (lowest class) and if you use purple or gold items then you make a high class purple/gold equipment. There might be a confusion between levels 1-5 and classes white to gold. So look at this way: Imagine the levels are the level of your runes, like violence I, violence III, violence V. If those are the level then the classes are the level of those runes: Gold lvl1 equipment = violence I rune at level 10 Purple lvl1 equipment = violence I rune at level 8 White lvl1 equipment = violence I rune at level 1 Gold lvl5 equipment = violence V rune at level 10 Gold lvl4 equipment violence IV rune at level 10. Purple lvl5 equipment = violence V at level 8.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 15, 2016 7:41:54 GMT
Bloody equipment is so broken.... just got stab through damage of 26k one time....what the f!CK is the stupid igg doing.... what the crap....
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Post by xathrax on Jul 15, 2016 7:46:41 GMT
Bloody equipment is so broken.... just got stab through damage of 26k one time....what the f!CK is the stupid igg doing.... what the crap.... Any idea how that's actually triggered?
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Post by voldrox [BK] on Jul 15, 2016 7:47:18 GMT
Bloody equipment is so broken.... just got stab through damage of 26k one time....what the f!CK is the stupid igg doing.... what the crap.... Some of these hero damages are ridiculously high with equipment. Don't know how IGG release their updates without testing. Sadly only a bunch of few people can enjoy their shiny new equipments.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 15, 2016 7:51:33 GMT
Bloody equipment is so broken.... just got stab through damage of 26k one time....what the f!CK is the stupid igg doing.... what the crap.... Some of these hero damages are ridiculously high with equipment. Don't know how IGG release their updates without testing. Sadly only a bunch of few people can enjoy their shiny new equipments. that damn critical hit thingy... naga mistress hitting 1200 basic... arcane knight doing 2.2k damage... the magic is even more ridiculous...... critical hit gives them a chance to double up attk... f!CK man...
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Post by sblip on Jul 15, 2016 8:27:20 GMT
critical hit to double attack and skill potency increases skill damage by: base_skill_damage * (1 + skill_potency_%)^x , where x = the number of creatures the opponent has in play
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Post by asgarth1980 on Jul 15, 2016 8:51:18 GMT
critical hit to double attack and skill potency increases skill damage by: base_skill_damage * (1 + skill_potency_%)^x , where x = the number of creatures the opponent has in play the skill resist what is the formula?
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Post by xathrax on Jul 15, 2016 9:03:32 GMT
critical hit to double attack and skill potency increases skill damage by: base_skill_damage * (1 + skill_potency_%)^x , where x = the number of creatures the opponent has in play That doesn't seem to make sense. Where does the formula come from? Why would it be multiplied by the number of creatures in play?
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