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Post by lampround✪NFS on Aug 5, 2016 8:15:03 GMT
Let me scream this again.....I HATE EQUIPMENT.... I have now 1 orange 13 purples.... of which I made 2 basic orange.... What the F!CK.......so I hove 3 orange:1 really crafted and 2 basic orange from 8 purples and ... 40k gems in........ yet with 20% hit rate... my tourney opponent are dodge like crazy.....SIGH Im sorry Asgarth but.... lol You have some really sh1t luck there dude. I have only built to lvl 5's so far, got 1 orange and 1 purple
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 5, 2016 8:19:03 GMT
Let me scream this again.....I HATE EQUIPMENT.... I have now 1 orange 13 purples.... of which I made 2 basic orange.... What the F!CK.......so I hove 3 orange:1 really crafted and 2 basic orange from 8 purples and ... 40k gems in........ yet with 20% hit rate... my tourney opponent are dodge like crazy.....SIGH Im sorry Asgarth but.... lol You have some really sh1t luck there dude. I have only built to lvl 5's so far, got 1 orange and 1 purple ... that is one of my char Atilla...sucks luck...the other Asgarth has relatively better luck... it seems each char are given a luck dice during creation..... just like why some chars have never gotten revive like Mr Voldrox before....
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Post by japoon on Aug 5, 2016 8:40:20 GMT
What will you do to your lvl5 purple?
Use it or dismantling it into material?
Since materials are extremely expensive, the success or not is too important
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Post by ℜ✯Doomsday on Aug 5, 2016 8:49:18 GMT
I feel like they've lowered the percentage of muddle skill. In the new patch, the percentage went from unlisted to 25% on the description... This has caused a significant drop in the skill and now I can go entire fights without the skill proc. That's donuts.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 5, 2016 9:08:32 GMT
What will you do to your lvl5 purple? Use it or dismantling it into material? Since materials are extremely expensive, the success or not is too important if I read carefully ..I have 2 basic orange from 8 purple...
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Post by maxp83 on Aug 5, 2016 9:27:17 GMT
I'm starting to think it's tied to account idk prob wrong but bare with me
My account won't get gt won't pull exclusive card from booster this has been over a year however where I'm lucky is equipment was easy to build and I got good stats also got 6th gm from lost relic (only one from lr but 6 gm I never thought I'd get one) the conspiracist in me is thinking it's all pre determined as in when you create account. The smart part of me says it's coincidence and without a big sample size cannot prove anything pre determined it's just rng at the end of the day it balances itself out.
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Post by mrbear on Aug 8, 2016 12:09:20 GMT
Hey all
Been playing game since release but my first time posting on here..
Few things I want to put out there.
Skill resistance : can anyone confirm this only effects magic dmg? I scanned through 15 pages here an couldn't find much on it. I was wondering if this effect could be simular to bezerks boar skill resist an could perhaps be a percentage to negative statuses too? It's a hard one to test I guess unless someone has 40% I'm sure would be easy..
I have a 38 percent skill potency increase and have noticed it effects twins defense skill it procs everytime almost which insane on sac twins. Also it effects discord I have found running tests. I feel like skill potency effects the first actual non passive skill obviously some skills can't be effected by this..like healing which is dumb... There's definitely a pattern. Correct me if I'm wrong
I used lucky flip first day it was released and flipped alot of orange using 3 flip an refresh system. Since last 2 patches I've noticed they stopped adding as many orange to the rotation...that and I feel like they also have rigged the flip board to not be random all the time...
I have sunk alot of gems after last 2 patches and have found the odds of flipping level 1 materials first 3 tries is super high. I have screen shots of doing 4 refreshs an getting the first 3 materials (lowest lvl materials) 4 turns in a row. Also if I am forging a particular material like a seed(The only orange one I need to make last for a piece of equipment) when an orange of the one I'm forging comes up in lucky flip i ended having to flip every card till the last one which ran me 640 gems.. Ive had this happen on 3 other occasions
I'm not sure if there is something to this I have a s*** load of materials an equipment I don't know if that can effect ur flip chances or what ur trying to forge effects this. Or theyre plain just rigged the supposed random flip board to suck more money out of people. It's a form of scamming if that's the case they make enough money from this game I hope this isn't true.
If anyone can add confirm or deny please
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Post by sblip on Aug 8, 2016 16:35:48 GMT
mrbear, it is really impossible to test a lot of these things since the calculations are done server side. I had the same issue you did with the seed but for me it was potions. I don't think the RNG is 'rigged' for lucky flip any more than it is messed up for everything else, but then again I did all my lucky flips before patches, because I expected a nerf.. so they may have well downed the rates.
I will say that when I see a spark on the board I always try 4 flips (but no more), and astoundingly got the spark on the 4th flip a LOT more times than one would expect. That leads me to believe that it's not entirely rigged
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Post by hoax on Aug 8, 2016 17:01:08 GMT
The other week i dismantled my orange gloves with 36 percent resist rate with an extra attribute of almost 6 percent potency i try to make one again and i failed.now, im using a 15 percent purple gloves .i asked igg to give it back to me.instead they gave me all the mats to craft an orange gloves and it failed again using another purple gloves with 15 percent skill resist with no extra attribute
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Post by sblip on Aug 8, 2016 17:28:14 GMT
why in the world did you dismantle 36% gloves? That's insane. You're insane.
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Post by mrbear on Aug 8, 2016 23:38:48 GMT
I will say that when I see a spark on the board I always try 4 flips (but no more), and astoundingly got the spark on the 4th flip a LOT more times than one would expect. That leads me to believe that it's not entirely rigged Yea, dont get me wrong ive found i can still draw a orange on second flip or a purple on first. I was more leaning towards a percentage of picking up the highest material on flipping. like say orange has a 10% chance on first flip 20% 2nd etc So it would make it seem like u can still flip high materials with cheaper tries. but theres no denying the consistency for me wiht the amount of refreshes ive done....IGG do alot of shitty greedy things but this feels the dirtiest. Well everyone should know by now if igg add a new system to DH jump all over it before they sleeze it up. Also, Ive got potency up to 48% now So Ill be running some more tests. I'll try post what I find Here SKills Ive found affected by Skill Potency (still could be off correct if im wrong): Reflection, All Magic Damage, Dmg Over Time Skills ie Gas cloud/toxicity, Flaming(also affects runes detonate), Counter/Retaliate, Voodoo, Stab Through, Detonate Soul Swap Also Definately Works With [D] & [S,] Skills of these kind. Melded Skills also affected by Potency Also Ive found Skill potency can affect more than 1 skill on creature. Example my Abaddon has Retaliate 10 which procs for 200. But with 48 % potency it does 257 and Also is Thors Rage at lvl 8 procs for 200 With Potency 257 So the math doesnt make alot of sense. if its almost an extra 50% for only a extra roughly 25% dmg increase. Ive tried against different players incase of skill resist and the figures are roughly the same. Anyway please add to this if u can. Ill try to put stuff up if i find it. So sick of IGG lack of info.. having to write the f*%king instructions ourselves AND WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DISMANTLES 36% EQUIPMENT....Unless your going for perfect 40's... I was lucky to get 3 items with skill potency. it would seem u can really luck out an stack a crazy stat. There will be guys running round with 70% Crit
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 9, 2016 0:14:13 GMT
why in the world did you dismantle 36% gloves? That's insane. You're insane. Has to be a misclick/accident. If not, I agree with your diagnosis.
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 9, 2016 0:18:06 GMT
I will say that when I see a spark on the board I always try 4 flips (but no more), and astoundingly got the spark on the 4th flip a LOT more times than one would expect. That leads me to believe that it's not entirely rigged Yea, dont get me wrong ive found i can still draw a orange on second flip or a purple on first. I was more leaning towards a percentage of picking up the highest material on flipping. like say orange has a 10% chance on first flip 20% 2nd etc So it would make it seem like u can still flip high materials with cheaper tries. but theres no denying the consistency for me wiht the amount of refreshes ive done....IGG do alot of shitty greedy things but this feels the dirtiest. Well everyone should know by now if igg add a new system to DH jump all over it before they sleeze it up. Also, Ive got potency up to 48% now So Ill be running some more tests. I'll try post what I find Here SKills Ive found affected by Skill Potency (still could be off correct if im wrong): Reflection, All Magic Damage, Dmg Over Time Skills ie Gas cloud/toxicity, Flaming(also affects runes detonate), Counter/Retaliate, Voodoo, Stab Through, Detonate Soul Swap Also Definately Works With [D] & [S,] Skills of these kind. Melded Skills also affected by Potency Also Ive found Skill potency can affect more than 1 skill on creature. Example my Abaddon has Retaliate 10 which procs for 200. But with 48 % potency it does 257 and Also is Thors Rage at lvl 8 procs for 200 With Potency 257 So the math doesnt make alot of sense. if its almost an extra 50% for only a extra roughly 25% dmg increase. Ive tried against different players incase of skill resist and the figures are roughly the same. Anyway please add to this if u can. Ill try to put stuff up if i find it. So sick of IGG lack of info.. having to write the f*%king instructions ourselves AND WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DISMANTLES 36% EQUIPMENT....Unless your going for perfect 40's... I was lucky to get 3 items with skill potency. it would seem u can really luck out an stack a crazy stat. There will be guys running round with 70% Crit I know it's a lot to readthrough, but please find the post by username: primechecker (player name rankax) where that smart cookie was able to recreate the calculation using his smarts, and showed that skill potency and resist are exponentially effected by enemy / own-creature counts, respectively. This was pre-nerf/patch, and I personally feel that if anything that should be switched around (potency should be increated by own crits, resist by others) if not removed entirely. Since the patch/nerf, these may have changed or not. But, I would read his post since you are looking for information about how the math works.
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Post by mrbear on Aug 9, 2016 1:07:15 GMT
Yea, dont get me wrong ive found i can still draw a orange on second flip or a purple on first. I was more leaning towards a percentage of picking up the highest material on flipping. like say orange has a 10% chance on first flip 20% 2nd etc So it would make it seem like u can still flip high materials with cheaper tries. but theres no denying the consistency for me wiht the amount of refreshes ive done....IGG do alot of shitty greedy things but this feels the dirtiest. Well everyone should know by now if igg add a new system to DH jump all over it before they sleeze it up. Also, Ive got potency up to 48% now So Ill be running some more tests. I'll try post what I find Here SKills Ive found affected by Skill Potency (still could be off correct if im wrong): Reflection, All Magic Damage, Dmg Over Time Skills ie Gas cloud/toxicity, Flaming(also affects runes detonate), Counter/Retaliate, Voodoo, Stab Through, Detonate Soul Swap Also Definately Works With [D] & [S,] Skills of these kind. Melded Skills also affected by Potency Also Ive found Skill potency can affect more than 1 skill on creature. Example my Abaddon has Retaliate 10 which procs for 200. But with 48 % potency it does 257 and Also is Thors Rage at lvl 8 procs for 200 With Potency 257 So the math doesnt make alot of sense. if its almost an extra 50% for only a extra roughly 25% dmg increase. Ive tried against different players incase of skill resist and the figures are roughly the same. Anyway please add to this if u can. Ill try to put stuff up if i find it. So sick of IGG lack of info.. having to write the f*%king instructions ourselves AND WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND DISMANTLES 36% EQUIPMENT....Unless your going for perfect 40's... I was lucky to get 3 items with skill potency. it would seem u can really luck out an stack a crazy stat. There will be guys running round with 70% Crit I know it's a lot to readthrough, but please find the post by username: primechecker (player name rankax) where that smart cookie was able to recreate the calculation using his smarts, and showed that skill potency and resist are exponentially effected by enemy / own-creature counts, respectively. This was pre-nerf/patch, and I personally feel that if anything that should be switched around (potency should be increated by own crits, resist by others) if not removed entirely. Since the patch/nerf, these may have changed or not. But, I would read his post since you are looking for information about how the math works. Oh, Cool thanks. I'll check it out. and yea i wouldnt be set on anything yet, 6 motnhs from now everything here probably wont mean anything..lol
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Post by hoax on Aug 9, 2016 5:35:05 GMT
why in the world did you dismantle 36% gloves? That's insane. You're insane. its a stupid mistake i really didn't know how i lost it, was it from crafting or dismantling that time i was dismantling purple equipments and also trying to get orange level 5 ones, just noticed my equipment attributes dropped badly, so i just said igg i lost it from dismantling, i heard some sold their druidess for GP thats insane
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 9, 2016 18:57:57 GMT
why in the world did you dismantle 36% gloves? That's insane. You're insane. its a stupid mistake i really didn't know how i lost it, was it from crafting or dismantling that time i was dismantling purple equipments and also trying to get orange level 5 ones, just noticed my equipment attributes dropped badly, so i just said igg i lost it from dismantling, i heard some sold their druidess for GP thats insane Whats really "fun" is that when you choose a sacrifice item to feed the crafting of an item, you cant tell which one you are picking. You can only see its level icon and color (ie: helmet 5, orange) but not its stats. So if you have built a few orange lvl5 helmets, for example, and you want to use one to feed crafting, you cant tell which is which.
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 10, 2016 3:40:14 GMT
its a stupid mistake i really didn't know how i lost it, was it from crafting or dismantling that time i was dismantling purple equipments and also trying to get orange level 5 ones, just noticed my equipment attributes dropped badly, so i just said igg i lost it from dismantling, i heard some sold their druidess for GP thats insane Whats really "fun" is that when you choose a sacrifice item to feed the crafting of an item, you cant tell which one you are picking. You can only see its level icon and color (ie: helmet 5, orange) but not its stats. So if you have built a few orange lvl5 helmets, for example, and you want to use one to feed crafting, you cant tell which is which. mutter I am so jealous... to those who can have multiple orange... I have stopped getting flips after the dismal 1 orange 13 purple craft luck
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Post by jeffh69 on Aug 10, 2016 15:12:26 GMT
Hello
I have been playing deck hero's for awhile now.. I don't know if I'm just slow or what but I cannot figure out how to get a 2nd attribute with the equipment. I have a bunch of sparks but when I am about to craft something it won't give me the option to use it. Can someone help me out?
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Post by ℜ★God on Aug 10, 2016 16:06:51 GMT
Hello I have been playing deck hero's for awhile now.. I don't know if I'm just slow or what but I cannot figure out how to get a 2nd attribute with the equipment. I have a bunch of sparks but when I am about to craft something it won't give me the option to use it. Can someone help me out? Jeff You can only use Sparks on Blue or higher grade Equipment.
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Post by jeffh69 on Aug 10, 2016 16:39:19 GMT
I spent all week making all blue level material. Now I have no idea what to do. I have a pretty good deck but I just got destroyed by someone with a new ability called muddle. It kept extending my cards wait times and making his shorter. Any advice or help would be appreciated
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Post by ginger on Aug 11, 2016 10:52:09 GMT
Hello friends. New player here. Wanna ask for help to you guys. So this are the questions: 1 - Some guys here said that in order to make a lvl5 orange equipment, you need a lvl3 orange one. It's that correct or I can use withe materials to craft cheap equipment until manage to get orange materials just for lvl5 crafting? Crafting orange materials costs gems ? Let's say yes, how much costs eg lvl3 or 5 orange equipment to craft? Didn't find any info on that so I wanted to ask before spend a lot of time trying without any exp in crafting. Until now I have all equipment lvl2 with withe materials.
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 12, 2016 4:14:43 GMT
You are in the equipment guide thread, and all of those things, including a step by step walkthrough of what you need/should do, are in the guide.
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Post by vagou on Aug 12, 2016 10:09:33 GMT
To give an idea on the cost - I am one of the unluckiest guy for equipment and I spent more than 60K gems and I'm still trying to get my last Lvl 5 orange piece.
Lucky people can get a full set of Orange for 15/20K gems, but some others still need 50K+.
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Post by Fury_русккие on Aug 12, 2016 15:08:52 GMT
Just crafted a set gear, Planewalker Staff Im soo happy
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Post by japoon on Aug 12, 2016 15:20:31 GMT
I seriosuly doubt the 42% is fault.
As least to me, it is 0/5 (0%)
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Post by នʛ⋆SexyBob on Aug 12, 2016 15:30:26 GMT
Just crafted a set sword Im soo happy Very nice HP bonus. Grats!
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Post by ℜ★God on Aug 12, 2016 16:57:39 GMT
I'm just sitting here with my measly +11 ATK and +53 HP bonus >_> FeelsBadMan
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Post by sblip on Aug 12, 2016 17:06:16 GMT
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 12, 2016 22:17:10 GMT
Just crafted a set gear, Planewalker Staff Im soo happy oh my goodness, people are crafting God gear now....u have enough rare rare materials to craft?... from total spending?....
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 12, 2016 22:18:44 GMT
To give an idea on the cost - I am one of the unluckiest guy for equipment and I spent more than 60K gems and I'm still trying to get my last Lvl 5 orange piece. Lucky people can get a full set of Orange for 15/20K gems, but some others still need 50K+. one of my chars have 1 orange and 13 purples from 40k gems (also a level 3 purple from 97% orange).... beat that unluckiness
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