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Post by japoon on Aug 12, 2016 22:48:19 GMT
To give an idea on the cost - I am one of the unluckiest guy for equipment and I spent more than 60K gems and I'm still trying to get my last Lvl 5 orange piece. Lucky people can get a full set of Orange for 15/20K gems, but some others still need 50K+. I do believe that the 42% Lvl5 Gold is a fault figure provided by IGG. At least to me, 0/5 crafting failed probability = 0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58 = 6% Do I really such unlucky fall into the 6%? Have a little doubt. But when most of the majority are all unlucky like this, I can conclude the figure provided by IGG is fault. There is NOT 42% Successful Rate. The Actual Rate should be around 10-20%. I do not mind if IGG put 10% or 20% Successful Rate, then it is my risk to try it. But I DO MIND if IGG provided the FAULT figures and CHEATING us.
Fxxking IGG!
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Post by japoon on Aug 12, 2016 22:57:02 GMT
To give an idea on the cost - I am one of the unluckiest guy for equipment and I spent more than 60K gems and I'm still trying to get my last Lvl 5 orange piece. Lucky people can get a full set of Orange for 15/20K gems, but some others still need 50K+. I do believe that the 42% Lvl5 Gold is a fault figure provided by IGG. At least to me, 0/5 crafting failed probability = 0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58 = 6% Do I really such unlucky fall into the 6%? Have a little doubt. But when most of the majority are all unlucky like this, I can conclude the figure provided by IGG is fault. There is NOT 42% Successful Rate. The Actual Rate should be around 10-20%. I do not mind if IGG put 10% or 20% Successful Rate, then it is my risk to try it. But I DO MIND if IGG provided the FAULT figures and CHEATING us.
Fxxking IGG!
Since equipment is extremely expensive, I tell everyone the investment cost on Lvl5 Orange Equipment is around 2k - 2.5k gems in average for buying a Chance of Crafting Lvl5 Orange (42% told by IGG but Statistic told us only around 10-20%). If you are lucky, then you can have 1 piece of Lvl5 Orange. If you are unlucky (most of the case), 2k - 2.5k gems ---> Lvl5 Purple Equipment ---> Dismantle into 2 piece of Purple Materials It is the most Money Earning Feature by IGG. You failed in crafting and kept burning gems (Money). The Greedy of IGG make me FEEL SICK!!
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Post by gundam699 on Aug 12, 2016 23:58:15 GMT
Hi Japoon,I do agree with you. Level 5 orange if fail is no joke. You need to go back to the first circle and try again
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Post by japoon on Aug 13, 2016 2:10:18 GMT
Hi Japoon,I do agree with you. Level 5 orange if fail is no joke. You need to go back to the first circle and try again Money lost is Money Lost. No Joke.
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Post by hoax on Aug 13, 2016 3:34:07 GMT
Just crafted a set gear, Planewalker Staff Im soo happy your so lucky, i got a plane walker armor with no extra bonus and only has 38% attribute
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Post by ℜ★God on Aug 13, 2016 4:56:18 GMT
"Only" 38% >_>
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Post by Fury_русккие on Aug 13, 2016 11:08:29 GMT
Here is one of our guildmate equipments maybe someone know how much % of control resist maximum?
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 13, 2016 12:33:41 GMT
Here is one of our guildmate equipments maybe someone know how much % of control resist maximum? I am so jealous
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Post by scatterbrain on Aug 13, 2016 16:11:17 GMT
I'm just sitting here with my measly +11 ATK and +53 HP bonus >_> FeelsBadMan Better than I've got, God!
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 14, 2016 6:29:34 GMT
Here is one of our guildmate equipments maybe someone know how much % of control resist maximum? Well... based upon my remedial math, i would guess 100% But seriously, considering it's only ever a secondary attribute, with a (assumed) cap of 10% on lvl5 (i guess 15% on planeswalker?), and you have 6 pieces, if you rolled 10% on all, 60%? Im not sure if all attributes are possible on all gear, theres really not enough information out about that - ie: if gloves can have any attribute or if they are limited to certain pieces of equipment.
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Post by sblip on Aug 14, 2016 10:19:47 GMT
from what i can tell, control resist only can come on belt. on level 5 orange belt maximum is 10%. Not sure what maximum is on the higher plan walker eq. Probably 20% .
Control Success rate can be gotten on gauntlets and control resist on belts. (i think. Please prove me wrong if you have evidence otherwise)
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Post by illuminatimaster on Aug 14, 2016 11:42:22 GMT
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Post by evolved303 on Aug 14, 2016 12:48:51 GMT
To give an idea on the cost - I am one of the unluckiest guy for equipment and I spent more than 60K gems and I'm still trying to get my last Lvl 5 orange piece. Lucky people can get a full set of Orange for 15/20K gems, but some others still need 50K+. I do believe that the 42% Lvl5 Gold is a fault figure provided by IGG. At least to me, 0/5 crafting failed probability = 0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58*0.58 = 6% Do I really such unlucky fall into the 6%? Have a little doubt. But when most of the majority are all unlucky like this, I can conclude the figure provided by IGG is fault. There is NOT 42% Successful Rate. The Actual Rate should be around 10-20%. I do not mind if IGG put 10% or 20% Successful Rate, then it is my risk to try it. But I DO MIND if IGG provided the FAULT figures and CHEATING us.
Fxxking IGG!
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Post by monkeylord on Aug 14, 2016 17:50:43 GMT
I got control resist on few different items. Also, have crafted a lot 42% seems accurate.
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Post by sblip on Aug 14, 2016 19:49:36 GMT
yea seems i'm wrong. Weird that I kept getting it on gauntlets over and over but never on other items *shrug*
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Post by Nafai✪APeXNFS on Aug 29, 2016 13:43:22 GMT
Do anybody knows what "control success rate" mean?
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Post by sblip on Aug 30, 2016 2:20:27 GMT
it means the chance that a control effect like Seals or Delay will work
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Post by asgarth1980 on Aug 30, 2016 4:52:38 GMT
I hate equipment concept and the bad luck I have.... 15 purple to 1 gold...bull crap
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Post by martee on Aug 30, 2016 9:18:28 GMT
Hi. I started the adventure with DH not very long ago and i think i need some advice regarding the equipment. There is no straight forward answer: What is the most efficient way to start. Should i try to obtain yellow level 1 of every part and then proceed to creating lvl 2, lev 3 ...etc? I know its probably the luck but is Yellow level item is must if i want to create next level yellow? Especially when it comes to low levels (1,2,3)?
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Post by knoop1975 on Dec 12, 2016 10:10:42 GMT
I am more interested in "Rerolls". I have a complete set of blue equipment, but when i tried rerolling a green sword with green items, a white sword came out of the closet. Since then i decided to only make white attributes and make a complete set of base equipment
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Post by darkspace on Jan 10, 2017 15:13:35 GMT
I think the whole "% chance to get" must be rebuild... Its not normal someone to succeed at 42% 3-4 times in a row getting almost max rolls + great secondaries.. while others like me fail at same chance 6-7 times in a row.
Not to mention the bonus skill c... I have a friend that wasted 2k sparks only to get muddles! Too much info is hidden in this important matter. Like whats the chance to get muddle or other bonus skill.. how does min-max roll works? Cause im pretty sure its not random.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 10, 2017 23:28:19 GMT
I think the whole "% chance to get" must be rebuild... Its not normal someone to succeed at 42% 3-4 times in a row getting almost max rolls + great secondaries.. while others like me fail at same chance 6-7 times in a row. Not to mention the bonus skill c... I have a friend that wasted 2k sparks only to get muddles! Too much info is hidden in this important matter. Like whats the chance to get muddle or other bonus skill.. how does min-max roll works? Cause im pretty sure its not random. Are you sure he got multiple skills of the same type? Imagine multiple confines I think this can't be possible. Maybe an exception would be to have it on same equipment type like multiple swords with multiple muddles as you can equip only one sword. All my extra skills are different and on different equipment. I'd say if this was the case your friends' strategy was not very wise. Regarding luck I haven't failed any 42% crafts. Then on Helmet 6 fails in a row. Pretty strange but not impossible. At the end it indeed ends up with around 42%. Seems that statiscs does not like you very much... I'd not make conspiracies where they are not ment to be. Sample size is waaaay to small for theory of big numbers to kicks in. So on 6 tries it is still luck.
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Post by darkspace on Jan 11, 2017 0:17:38 GMT
I know dude 😀 I graduated maths in uni... played texas holdem for 5 years.. i know rng pretty well lol. Im just saying.. there maybe hidden mechanic that boosts initial tries at the expense of later ones. Talked with a lot of guys.. and i cant remember anyone failing their first couple of 42% tries.. exactly like me 😀
As for the multiple skills.. they dont stack.. u can have 6 muddles, but only one could activate at 25%.. others are just there for nothing.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 0:30:31 GMT
Okay, congrats on your degree colegue Why conspiracies then... But knowing IGG and their operations in pretty law unregulated Singapore (not China law exactly) gambling wise I would not be surprised on a second thaught. But that part with multi confine is scary Has your friend got muddles on same equipment? This part of mechanics interests me. And I continued crafting btw... Now it's more consistent Pretty close to stated percent.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 0:44:40 GMT
I'd be pretty pissed of with one more harrow. One is enough. So was multiple muddle on same equipment type? Also I think someone did an analysis and it turns out some skills are grade level dependant. So far regarding rare and common I saw no difference but I don't have luxury to spend 250 or god forbid 1000 for 42% supposed chance to test purple and gold.
This info/expirience would be very valuable...
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Post by darkspace on Jan 11, 2017 1:33:16 GMT
My friend went for purple grade.. with 250 sparks.. so 8 tries and he said.. all muddles lol. He was so devastated... Who wouldnt be! Im pretty sure he tried on different items, logically you have around the same amount of mats per type with little difference(it was before fr). Also my first two successfull skills were muddles too... Got harrow just today but wont use it.
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 9:31:14 GMT
My friend went for purple grade.. with 250 sparks.. so 8 tries and he said.. all muddles lol. He was so devastated... Who wouldnt be! Im pretty sure he tried on different items, logically you have around the same amount of mats per type with little difference(it was before fr). Also my first two successfull skills were muddles too... Got harrow just today but wont use it. Aww, such a waste then. Mine 3 are different though... Not using Harrow and Rites. Now I'm worried for future crafts. Seems grade has no influence then but who knows. But 8 muddles with 250 on purple?! This information hiding on what influences what is simply cheating imho. 2000k sparks is a lot to gamble with. I'll stick to my blues. Thankyou!
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Post by darkspace on Jan 11, 2017 12:49:15 GMT
You have unholy rites and you are not using it?! I would die for such skill o;0
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Post by Interrupted on Jan 11, 2017 13:00:07 GMT
You have unholy rites and you are not using it?! I would die for such skill o;0 Yaeh order of receiving skill was: Muddle Harrow Unholy Rites On blue rare different equipment. Yes powerfull skill but require high cost direct dmg recycler (e.g. Octavius) to be reliable... Othervise my recyclers and revivers get sacrificed... And other cards just die no matter how powerfull. If you can advise me on how to utilize this skill properly it would be appreciated! 90% expertise on rev Octavius :/ I would die for confine though 300 sparks spent. Condolences to your friend's lost potential.
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Post by darkspace on Jan 11, 2017 13:17:22 GMT
Hm.. I get you.. esp in tourney it may be worse to have it if u lack rev/recs.
The obvious choise would be to meld revive on summoner and have him as highest cost crit.. or 2nd highest. I would try building a deck with aquarius as highest cost. Imo top heroes skills are far superior to crits themselves.. so keeping enemy without rage the whole battle.. and frozen half the time is v good. Also plague doctor or octa doesnt need support to heal themselves.. Im sure u tested with octa a lot.. can you tell some results?
Just suggestions.. you seem much more experienced.. im only lvl 84 but i have v good rank in tourney and arena.. given the craps i have lol 😀
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