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Post by lampround✪NFS on Aug 30, 2016 12:53:17 GMT
So guys, i respect all your opinions, and based on our obvious passion what can we do to breath a bit of life back into the game for us forumites? What challenge can we set ourselves? If only we could hijack a new arena population and fill it with our own F2P alt accounts and see how we fair against each other? Is there some other element we could try? Perhaps Guild Wars, start up a couple F2P Guilds and see who can get highest? Dunno, just chucking it out there What about new tourney (arena) with some stages. one star, two star and going on. - you woud purchase with coins / gems the same deck (amount of same creatures) in certain stage and then you can try compete. Three star - like 500 000 coins per day and 5 attemtps - hero wight, few recycle, few magic, disposals. Like 5x 5* creatures, 10x 4* and 5* 3*. Make 10 crit deck and compete. All same settings and only placement and rng matters. Or bad idea?? Good idea, food for thought. Arena could be very different from one player to the next, but Tourney is same for everyone. Or Trials is another constant experience for all... perhaps we could start a competition thread, f2p alts only, 1 month to get the highest position in trial? Can only play for the kudos, but for the strategy of working with a low lvl deck and whatever you can get hold of for free
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Aug 30, 2016 13:23:35 GMT
What about new tourney (arena) with some stages. one star, two star and going on. - you woud purchase with coins / gems the same deck (amount of same creatures) in certain stage and then you can try compete. Three star - like 500 000 coins per day and 5 attemtps - hero wight, few recycle, few magic, disposals. Like 5x 5* creatures, 10x 4* and 5* 3*. Make 10 crit deck and compete. All same settings and only placement and rng matters. Or bad idea?? Good idea, food for thought. Arena could be very different from one player to the next, but Tourney is same for everyone. Or Trials is another constant experience for all... perhaps we could start a competition thread, f2p alts only, 1 month to get the highest position in trial? Can only play for the kudos, but for the strategy of working with a low lvl deck and whatever you can get hold of for free I am currently playing Magic Rush. The arena there gives out gems when you stay at a certain rank. DH however provides coins and glory - both not very fancy things. DH should improve not cards but shops arenas too. that way it will not get boring as soon as you get to top 1. the real competition starts.
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Post by japoon on Aug 30, 2016 13:40:40 GMT
I want to fxxk IGG since long time ago. The reason 1. Too greedy. For a mobile phone game, if you need to get a single Hero, Druidess, you need several hundred or thousand Euro dollars. What is the fxxking thought a Single Hero in a mobile phone game worthy several days work in exchange? 2. Dishonesty. The figure show in Lucky Flip is misleading. The 1st 2 draws lvl5 materials is less than 1% but the figure showed is 1/9. The probability showed crafting a lvl5 orange equipment is 42% but why i crafted 9 pieces lvl5 orange all went into failure. I dont mind it show 15 or 20% successful rate but i do mind they are cheating their players. 3. I still play the game cos i still enjoy the game. But i hate the way IGG treat their players and money sucking business model. So i am contradictory for playing this game. 4. Hope all of you can understand my thinking and Im not japooning…
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Post by icezaius on Aug 30, 2016 16:04:53 GMT
I want to fxxk IGG since long time ago. The reason 1. Too greedy. For a mobile phone game, if you need to get a single Hero, Druidess, you need several hundred or thousand Euro dollars. What is the fxxking thought a Single Hero in a mobile phone game worthy several days work in exchange? 2. Dishonesty. The figure show in Lucky Flip is misleading. The 1st 2 draws lvl5 materials is less than 1% but the figure showed is 1/9. The probability showed crafting a lvl5 orange equipment is 42% but why i crafted 9 pieces lvl5 orange all went into failure. I dont mind it show 15 or 20% successful rate but i do mind they are cheating their players. 3. I still play the game cos i still enjoy the game. But i hate the way IGG treat their players and money sucking business model. So i am contradictory for playing this game. 4. Hope all of you can understand my thinking and Im not japooning… classic Japoon
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Post by Sisyphus on Aug 30, 2016 18:00:26 GMT
So much of this. It's also difficult to see past the amount of money some of you spend on this game. I get it, "Capitalism!" and all that, but holy s*** . I could only imagine how much some of you folks, particularly the top tournament players, have sunk into this game. If anything, you guys are the reason IGG has made it so imbalanced, because they know you guys will sell your souls to get the tiniest edge in-game. Do you guys know how much time and effort IGG even puts into this game? I guarantee you it's not enough to warrant all the dollars they grab, especially not when we consider how other games, which are far more impressive and take far more effort to construct sell for $60 complete, brand new, off-the-shelf. I can understand why you would want to defend the practice, because you guys have so much invested in its premise, but be reasonable. There will be legislation coming down over the next few years, which will restrict the amount game developers can charge for microtransactions on games like these. Games like this are akin to gambling, that's indisputable, and legislators have already begun to take notice of all the money that's simply going down the toilet because game developers appeal strictly, effectively, to gamers' need for instant gratification (i.e. "OOOOOH, LOOK, I GOT AN AQUARIUS!!!!"). Fair enough, i get what you're saying. But they why do you still play the game if you think the developers "dont put enough effort" into the game? Why dont you stick to these so called " far more impressive" games you talk about? Not having a dig at you here but im just wondering. These guys that spends alot of money, its their spending money. Im guessing they have well paid jobs so they have the cash to spend. To me and you its alot of money but maybe to them its not much. I play this game because it is a good game with a decent structure. I don't have to deal with all the P2W blowhards yet, so I'm still at a point where this game is enjoyable. (You'll note, a lot of the veteran players want to start up "babymains" so they can experience the game in its more balanced form as I currently am. The lower levels in the game are still fairly well balanced.) Plus, it kills time. Life is boredom; this game alleviates boredom. Don't you understand that this game sits on my phone, which is always with me? I can't bring my PS4 to work or to a social event, plug it in, and start playing anytime I want. I play this game more out of convenience than anything else. Don't get me wrong, AAA titles still try money grabs, but at least they deserve it more. DH is shamelessly greedy. Also, I very much doubt that the people who spend money on this game couldn't find better places to spend money. I also guarantee that most who spend money on this game end up regretting it immediately, or later on down the line. No one thinks, "Hey! I spent $1000 on Deck Heroes this year! I feel good about that!" This game preys on the HUMAN INSTINCT of a need for instant gratification. Do you not understand why there are laws against certain gambling practices because they are PREDATORY? Humans don't always make the best decisions, especially when it comes to money. Don't get so defensive, Kaiba. The, "Well, why don't you just leave?!" cop-out makes you seem childish. If you can't see the logic in what I say, you're in denial. Maybe you have a little bit of that 'buyer's remorse' I was talking about?
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Post by នʛ⋆SexyBob on Aug 30, 2016 19:47:14 GMT
I want to fxxk IGG since long time ago. The reason 1. Too greedy. For a mobile phone game, if you need to get a single Hero, Druidess, you need several hundred or thousand Euro dollars. What is the fxxking thought a Single Hero in a mobile phone game worthy several days work in exchange? 2. Dishonesty. The figure show in Lucky Flip is misleading. The 1st 2 draws lvl5 materials is less than 1% but the figure showed is 1/9. The probability showed crafting a lvl5 orange equipment is 42% but why i crafted 9 pieces lvl5 orange all went into failure. I dont mind it show 15 or 20% successful rate but i do mind they are cheating their players. 3. I still play the game cos i still enjoy the game. But i hate the way IGG treat their players and money sucking business model. So i am contradictory for playing this game. 4. Hope all of you can understand my thinking and Im not japooning… I agree with all of the above except for #4
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Post by នʛ⋆SexyBob on Aug 30, 2016 19:56:12 GMT
Fair enough, i get what you're saying. But they why do you still play the game if you think the developers "dont put enough effort" into the game? Why dont you stick to these so called " far more impressive" games you talk about? Not having a dig at you here but im just wondering. These guys that spends alot of money, its their spending money. Im guessing they have well paid jobs so they have the cash to spend. To me and you its alot of money but maybe to them its not much. I play this game because it is a good game with a decent structure. I don't have to deal with all the P2W blowhards yet, so I'm still at a point where this game is enjoyable. (You'll note, a lot of the veteran players want to start up "babymains" so they can experience the game in its more balanced form as I currently am. The lower levels in the game are still fairly well balanced.) Plus, it kills time. Life is boredom; this game alleviates boredom. Don't you understand that this game sits on my phone, which is always with me? I can't bring my PS4 to work or to a social event, plug it in, and start playing anytime I want. I play this game more out of convenience than anything else. Don't get me wrong, AAA titles still try money grabs, but at least they deserve it more. DH is shamelessly greedy. Also, I very much doubt that the people who spend money on this game couldn't find better places to spend money. I also guarantee that most who spend money on this game end up regretting it immediately, or later on down the line. No one thinks, "Hey! I spent $1000 on Deck Heroes this year! I feel good about that!" This game preys on the HUMAN INSTINCT of a need for instant gratification. Do you not understand why there are laws against certain gambling practices because they are PREDATORY? Humans don't always make the best decisions, especially when it comes to money. Don't get so defensive, Kaiba. The, "Well, why don't you just leave?!" cop-out makes you seem childish. If you can't see the logic in what I say, you're in denial. Maybe you have a little bit of that 'buyer's remorse' I was talking about? Actually, most of us who start baby main just because we want to have a do over, as we have more knowledge now and can play it better than the first time around. No need to blame top spenders who igg s way of conducting business. Also, I have talked to unclean, grim, yuna and others, none of which have expressed their regrets of spending. No need to point fingeRd at other players. The game is great, just igg sucks.
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Post by Sisyphus on Aug 30, 2016 20:03:10 GMT
I play this game because it is a good game with a decent structure. I don't have to deal with all the P2W blowhards yet, so I'm still at a point where this game is enjoyable. (You'll note, a lot of the veteran players want to start up "babymains" so they can experience the game in its more balanced form as I currently am. The lower levels in the game are still fairly well balanced.) Plus, it kills time. Life is boredom; this game alleviates boredom. Don't you understand that this game sits on my phone, which is always with me? I can't bring my PS4 to work or to a social event, plug it in, and start playing anytime I want. I play this game more out of convenience than anything else. Don't get me wrong, AAA titles still try money grabs, but at least they deserve it more. DH is shamelessly greedy. Also, I very much doubt that the people who spend money on this game couldn't find better places to spend money. I also guarantee that most who spend money on this game end up regretting it immediately, or later on down the line. No one thinks, "Hey! I spent $1000 on Deck Heroes this year! I feel good about that!" This game preys on the HUMAN INSTINCT of a need for instant gratification. Do you not understand why there are laws against certain gambling practices because they are PREDATORY? Humans don't always make the best decisions, especially when it comes to money. Don't get so defensive, Kaiba. The, "Well, why don't you just leave?!" cop-out makes you seem childish. If you can't see the logic in what I say, you're in denial. Maybe you have a little bit of that 'buyer's remorse' I was talking about? Actually, most of us who start baby main just because we want to have a do over, as we have more knowledge now and can play it better than the first time around. No need to blame top spenders who igg s way of conducting business. Also, I have talked to unclean, grim, yuna and others, none of which have expressed their regrets of spending. No need to point fingeRd at other players. The game is great, just igg sucks. lol, Sexy, you are awfully defensive after you and your groupies left my room yesterday. What's this about? No one is pointing fingers, just stating the obvious. IGG obviously doesn't respect its community, and that includes its spenders (you, Yuna, Grim, Anger, Prod, etc.) so why are you defending them? I wouldn't expect spenders who have seemingly unlimited supplies of money to regret purchases. Those folks are the exception, though, NOT THE RULE. Stop speaking from your very singular perspective as if it represents the opinion of most of the community. It doesn't.
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Post by នʛ⋆SexyBob on Aug 30, 2016 20:07:06 GMT
Actually, most of us who start baby main just because we want to have a do over, as we have more knowledge now and can play it better than the first time around. No need to blame top spenders who igg s way of conducting business. Also, I have talked to unclean, grim, yuna and others, none of which have expressed their regrets of spending. No need to point fingeRd at other players. The game is great, just igg sucks. lol, Sexy, you are awfully defensive after you and your groupies left my room yesterday. What's this about? No one is pointing fingers, just stating the obvious. IGG obviously doesn't respect its community, and that includes its spenders (you, Yuna, Grim, Anger, Prod, etc.) so why are you defending them so stringently? Not once was I defensive just stating my opinion. When did I defend igg?? I would never and have never defended igg.
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Post by Sisyphus on Aug 30, 2016 20:07:52 GMT
lol, Sexy, you are awfully defensive after you and your groupies left my room yesterday. What's this about? No one is pointing fingers, just stating the obvious. IGG obviously doesn't respect its community, and that includes its spenders (you, Yuna, Grim, Anger, Prod, etc.) so why are you defending them so stringently? Not once was I defensive just stating my opinion. When did I defend igg?? I would never and have never defended igg. By stating that your friends don't regret their purchases, you imply that IGG's business practices are therefore sound. They aren't.
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Post by Sisyphus on Aug 30, 2016 20:09:20 GMT
Actually, most of us who start baby main just because we want to have a do over, as we have more knowledge now and can play it better than the first time around. No need to blame top spenders who igg s way of conducting business. Also, I have talked to unclean, grim, yuna and others, none of which have expressed their regrets of spending. No need to point fingeRd at other players. The game is great, just igg sucks. lol, Sexy, you are awfully defensive after you and your groupies left my room yesterday. What's this about? No one is pointing fingers, just stating the obvious. IGG obviously doesn't respect its community, and that includes its spenders (you, Yuna, Grim, Anger, Prod, etc.) so why are you defending them? I wouldn't expect spenders who have seemingly unlimited supplies of money to regret purchases. Those folks are the exception, though, NOT THE RULE. Stop speaking from your very singular perspective as if it represents the opinion of most of the community. It doesn't. Also, just so you don't think I'm trying to sneak one by you, I edited after you posted since I was unaware you had responded so quickly.
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Post by icezaius on Aug 30, 2016 22:05:51 GMT
Not once was I defensive just stating my opinion. When did I defend igg?? I would never and have never defended igg. By stating that your friends don't regret their purchases, you imply that IGG's business practices are therefore sound. They aren't. As a straight up business practice I think you gotta give IGG props. This game has clearly made them a boatload of money, and that's what a business is supposed to do. When you've got individual players spending upwards of 20k on this game, I think you're business plan for the game is successful. Its definitely not growing into a ultra long term game, but in today's gaming market nothing lasts too long unless its a franchise like Madden, Gran Turismo, things like that where its not simply updated, but a new release on a semi-frequent basis. I think this short term profit grabbing business plan is why they haven't bothered to think about the long term effects of so many of their recent updates. They simply don't expect it to exist in any large fashion a year or 2 from now.
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Post by នʛ⋆SexyBob on Aug 30, 2016 22:46:53 GMT
What about new tourney (arena) with some stages. one star, two star and going on. - you woud purchase with coins / gems the same deck (amount of same creatures) in certain stage and then you can try compete. Three star - like 500 000 coins per day and 5 attemtps - hero wight, few recycle, few magic, disposals. Like 5x 5* creatures, 10x 4* and 5* 3*. Make 10 crit deck and compete. All same settings and only placement and rng matters. Or bad idea?? Good idea, food for thought. Arena could be very different from one player to the next, but Tourney is same for everyone. Or Trials is another constant experience for all... perhaps we could start a competition thread, f2p alts only, 1 month to get the highest position in trial? Can only play for the kudos, but for the strategy of working with a low lvl deck and whatever you can get hold of for free I'll wait for you to make the post
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Aug 31, 2016 8:33:03 GMT
I play this game because it is a good game with a decent structure. I don't have to deal with all the P2W blowhards yet, so I'm still at a point where this game is enjoyable. (You'll note, a lot of the veteran players want to start up "babymains" so they can experience the game in its more balanced form as I currently am. The lower levels in the game are still fairly well balanced.) Plus, it kills time. Life is boredom; this game alleviates boredom. Don't you understand that this game sits on my phone, which is always with me? I can't bring my PS4 to work or to a social event, plug it in, and start playing anytime I want. I play this game more out of convenience than anything else. Don't get me wrong, AAA titles still try money grabs, but at least they deserve it more. DH is shamelessly greedy. Also, I very much doubt that the people who spend money on this game couldn't find better places to spend money. I also guarantee that most who spend money on this game end up regretting it immediately, or later on down the line. No one thinks, "Hey! I spent $1000 on Deck Heroes this year! I feel good about that!" This game preys on the HUMAN INSTINCT of a need for instant gratification. Do you not understand why there are laws against certain gambling practices because they are PREDATORY? Humans don't always make the best decisions, especially when it comes to money. Don't get so defensive, Kaiba. The, "Well, why don't you just leave?!" cop-out makes you seem childish. If you can't see the logic in what I say, you're in denial. Maybe you have a little bit of that 'buyer's remorse' I was talking about? lol, people who moan about a game are the childish ones. If i wasnt happy with a game, i would simply not play it anymore so how does the "Well, why don't you just leave?!" co-out childish? "I also guarantee that most who spend money on this game end up regretting it immediately" and who are the most people? Have you got names, figures to back this statement? Im no f2p player and i dont regret spending on DH. I had alot of fun while spending and playing DH, making new friends along the way. I dont agree with your logic doesnt mean im in denial. Who are you to say your logic is correct? So people who dont understand/agree with your logic are in denial?
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Post by ℜ★Kaiba on Aug 31, 2016 8:47:50 GMT
By stating that your friends don't regret their purchases, you imply that IGG's business practices are therefore sound. They aren't. As a straight up business practice I think you gotta give IGG props. This game has clearly made them a boatload of money, and that's what a business is supposed to do. When you've got individual players spending upwards of 20k on this game, I think you're business plan for the game is successful. Its definitely not growing into a ultra long term game, but in today's gaming market nothing lasts too long unless its a franchise like Madden, Gran Turismo, things like that where its not simply updated, but a new release on a semi-frequent basis. I think this short term profit grabbing business plan is why they haven't bothered to think about the long term effects of so many of their recent updates. They simply don't expect it to exist in any large fashion a year or 2 from now. 100% agree with you. These game companies are here to make money like any other business.
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Post by ℳarty on Aug 31, 2016 8:55:30 GMT
The only regret I have concerning dh was not buying the 1st 99$ mystic sale
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Post by Baradead(japooned) on Aug 31, 2016 10:54:55 GMT
I like the game. Igg gives to f2p players 1. Alice bank 2. Mines and Sacred Relics. Where u can get time by time a rare card 3. Random! I was thinking about like those who post over me when igg nerfed wight in gm. But now it's ok. U always have a choice to pay or not play.
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Aug 31, 2016 11:13:15 GMT
The only regret I have concerning dh was not buying the 1st 99$ mystic sale i regret missing alice card 99dollar sale
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Post by ℳarty on Aug 31, 2016 17:17:32 GMT
The only regret I have concerning dh was not buying the 1st 99$ mystic sale i regret missing alice card 99dollar sale can I fap to your name?
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Post by m4rt1n1 on Aug 31, 2016 18:02:36 GMT
i regret missing alice card 99dollar sale can I fap to your name? what you do you mean? i have a guess but not sure.
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Post by barleylime on Sept 1, 2016 11:32:53 GMT
Whatever happen to the Grandmaster Cup? Is it like the World Cup whereby it's held once every 4 years?
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Post by asgarth1980 on Sept 1, 2016 11:54:15 GMT
Whatever happen to the Grandmaster Cup? Is it like the World Cup whereby it's held once every 4 years? It could be boring when all druidess vs druidess final, semi final even
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Post by lampround✪NFS on Sept 1, 2016 12:09:13 GMT
IGG made mention in a recent update of changes to GMC, so should appear at some point.
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Post by goliath2k on Sept 1, 2016 12:13:14 GMT
IGG made mention in a recent update of changes to GMC, so should appear at some point. Plot twist: the change is that it was deleted forever
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Post by japoon on Sept 1, 2016 13:00:04 GMT
The one with more Druidess win the Grandmaster Cup.
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Post by Sinister22✪NFS on Sept 1, 2016 14:34:27 GMT
Nah... Gem- events here and there. The fun time was heist and they perma removed it.
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Post by ✯ᏒᎧᎦ✯Behemoth on Sept 1, 2016 14:35:08 GMT
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Post by icarium on Sept 4, 2016 6:59:08 GMT
Maybe the joining rate of new players is low compared to people leaving it or it shows that it will get there in some point. That's why they are only releasing new content for p2w players to squeeze as much money as they can while they still can.I can be wrong and want to be wrong as I still like this game but this type of business policies of company doesn't sound good for anyone
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Post by asgarth1980 on Sept 4, 2016 12:41:18 GMT
Damn boring.... forum is boring... game is declining..... Arghh.....
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Post by japoon on Sept 4, 2016 15:50:25 GMT
What should we do playing a game which is going to die soon?
Deck Heroes will become "Dead Heroes" soon.... So Sad
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